Talk:Kanye West

Identifying as a Nazi

The sources linked to validate Ye's made up Nazi identification don't share any direct quotes about him saying he identifies as a Nazi, and thus should be deleted along with the false statement, just because someone says something in an article doesn't mean it's more credible than reality, never in the whole Alex Jones interview did Ye say he identified as a Nazi. 5.28.177.100 (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Kanye West praises Hitler, calls himself a Nazi in unhinged interview – Muboshgu (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Here is the excerpt from the interview posted to Twitter. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 18:31, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Clearly he doesn't mean it literally but instead he's making a point about the accusations labeled against him 141.226.9.91 (talk) 19:52, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Moving the goalposts, I see. First, he didn't say it at all, now he said it but only to "make a point"? It's not up to us to interpret primary sources. We leave that to RS. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 20:04, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

If someone said to me "I am a Nazi", I would take them at their word. (And get away from them as fast as possible.) The reliable sources are taking him at his word. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

If someone with a very public history of mental illness, including paranoid delusions, who just went through a divorce and a few years ago changed his name because In the Bible it means 'you'. So, I'm you. I'm us. It's us. said Every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler. then said he liked Hitler and was a Nazi while wearing a skintight black mask talking to Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes I probably wouldn't take their word for it. I would probably look back at their history and hope they get the help they need.

We're likely watching someone have yet another public breakdown, and rushing to categorize them as a Nazi. There is no excuse for his antisemitism, or really anything he's been doing, but to take his words to mean that he identifies as and follows the beliefs of actual Nazis to the point of a defining characteristic for categorization seems amiss. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Frankly, all of this is beside the point. West's mental health issues are documented in the article, and I trust readers to draw their own conclusions about the gravity of his words. The mere fact that West uttered the words "I'm a Nazi" and the resulting coverage thereof makes this notable. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 01:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm speaking more towards the categorization that had been added. Inclusion in the article clearly due with the amount of coverage it's garnered, but I'm less sure about WP:CATDEF. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

I totally agree with you there, his identification as a Nazi is clearly not (yet) a defining characteristic of his per WP:COPDEF. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 01:21, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

May I ask how this doesn't meet the code of defining trait, but all his other political affiliations do? He's got several political categorizations, and his Neo-Nazism isn't a one-off thing. It isn't like he made a poor choice comment and then said nothing else of relevance on the subject, he's repeatedly spouted antisemitic talking points and called himself a Nazi. In the Alex Jones interview, Jones repeatedly tried to get him to not identify as a Nazi, and then kept insisting on it. Docktuh (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

"unhinged" is a personal opinion, not fact. Don't put opinions on wikipedia.

311 needs correcting. It's the FIFTH commandment, not the 6th. 98.123.126.45 (talk) 05:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

@Throast: what more could WP possibly want for him to be labelled a bona fide Nazi sympathizer? Does he have to be caught in the act doing the Nazi salute, or make a song humanizing Hitler as a misunderstood good guy with a temper tantrum like himself? I don't get it; reliable sources agree that he made those remark off his own accord. Quite frankly, this attempt in finding nuance behind his nasty remarks belongs to social media forums. I agree with Muboshgu. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Nineteen Ninety-Four guy, I didn't comment on the fact that he cannot be labeled as a Nazi, I'm commenting on categorization. In order for a person to be categorized as a Nazi on Wikipedia, their Nazism has to be a defining characteristic (WP:COPDEF). That's a pretty high standard, and I don't think it's met (yet) in this case. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 12:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Reverted the recent addition of the category American neo-Nazi's on that basis. nableezy - 05:53, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Also, which source exactly says Kanye identified as a Nazi? I see the Times of Israel says that, but I cant see any other sources doing so, and the closest thing I can find to a transcript here doesnt seem to have him saying that. It certainly has him praising Hitler and veering in to Holocaust denial, but where does he actually "identify as a Nazi"? Surely there is something more than a twitter video from an unverified account with 1033 followers to prove that he said this? nableezy - 05:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

If nobody has anything better than the single Times of Israel piece that makes a claim that no other source makes about an extremely widely covered interview then I am going to remove the identified as a Nazi bit. That is an extraordinary claim, this is a BLP, and that requires extraordinary sourcing. nableezy - 16:12, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

The Newsweek article obviously isn't a full transcript, so I'm not sure what's the relevance there. The "I'm a Nazi" quote even made the headline in this Vanity Fair article. I wouldn't call it an extraordinary claim because it's not really a claim in the first place. It's reporting on his own words; no opinion or analysis added.

I agree with your removal of the category per my reasons above. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 16:06, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Creation of a "Current Consensus" chart

In lew of the amount of the editing and the apparent retreads over points previously discussed, would there be any interest in forming a consensus to include for the Kanye West a section on the talk page establishing a current consensus list such as the one being used over at Talk:Donald Trump and ammending the opening edit notice to include a mention that editor(s) review current consensus before editing the article and that changes against established consensus without prior discussion can be reverted on sight? It seems to me that this would help the page settle somewhat and could be useful in ensure that the current consensus for the article is listed and relevant links to the discussion(s) are provided to make sure everyone gets on the same page. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:41, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

• Support: While I wish someone like a musical artist wouldn't be so hotly debated or held as publicly important as an actual POTUS (not supporting, don't over-analyze), I agree that this is getting messy and controversial. 'New' topics appear on this talk page like fast food and I'm sure most of them could have been collapsed into sub-sections of a greater discussion (e.g. just about every thread about antisemitism/nazism/etc. could have been a lower-level section heading under a big "Controversy" talk page heading) and it makes combing through them difficult and unintuitive. GabberFlasted (talk) 15:50, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support This is a really good idea. To echo @GabberFlasted, it is really, REALLY easy to get lost in this talk page, which leads to more duplicative topics being added, which makes it even easier to get lost and causing a snowball effect. 73.239.149.166 (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support: I assume that IPs and new editors are going to ignore edit notices and talk headers anyway, but for more established editors, a current consensus list would certainly be helpful. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 12:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

  Gee thanks :P  :) 73.239.149.166 (talk) 15:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

(with some rare exceptions) ;) Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 15:35, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

• Support: Per nom. While I agree with Throast that there will be those who don't pay attention, it would make for simple edit summaries when reverts are needed; and as GabberFlasted noted - it's really easy to lose track of things on this talk page as it is very active. ButlerBlog (talk) 13:36, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Moving forward

@GabberFlasted, 73.239.149.166, Throast, and Butlerblog: Its been just shy of two weeks with 4 supports and no oppose !votes, therefore by the standard rules on site the motion passes (although consensus can always change). What we need now is the list of current consensus points and the relevant discussions for links. I'll give it 48 hours from the time stamp on my signature, after which I'll add the requisite edit notice and move the template into its own space, then add the list here up at the top of the page to officially make it "live", as it were. TomStar81 (Talk) 14:18, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

TomStar81, do you intend to compile those yourself or should the support !votes collaborate on that? I guess the most important point of contention recently has been his description/categorization as Nazi. Consensus is not to include such a description in the first sentence of the lead and not to categorize him as a Nazi. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 16:00, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Compile the list yourselves. I can add the equipment, but I have no idea whats been discussed here, so the initial current consensus points need to come from those who have kept tabs on that here. TomStar81 (Talk) 14:06, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Blurry photo

I think the photo needs to be changed. Very blurry and unflattering. Previous photo was fine 88.109.64.157 (talk) 20:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree. The previous photo might be older, but his appearance hasn't significantly changed since then. The professional photograph is clearly superior to the compressed screenshot. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 12:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree with Throast – I restored the higher resolution photo from before. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Nazi

Include “neo-Nazi” in first line of bio. Jsafran (talk) 14:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

We need more of a consensus (i.e., a wide variety of reliable sources labelling him as such in a prominent fashion, on par with such descriptors as "rapper" and "fashion designer") before that can happen. JeffSpaceman (talk) 03:59, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

On Kanye's Legacy, comparison of article before and after recent controversy

I think I've been looking at this article maybe weekly, monthly, I am not sure, for something like 10 years. So I am well aware of not only how this article had developed, but also how it has done so in reaction to Kanye's personal development in his career. Before I decided to write this I did some research to see if I could justify writing this sort of comment here, because from what I would personally consider a levelheaded estimation, Kanye did spout outrageous antisemitic speech on Twitter, Instagram, Lex Fridman's Podcast, Gavin McGinnis's interview, Drink Champs, Piers Morgan, etc.. And that does tremendously change the way people at large will perceive him. That being said, I want to make the claim that the article should not have undergone such drastic changes in sections regarding his reputation and legacy. I made sure to look at wikipedia's policy regarding neutral point of view and especially artistic reputation:

Describing aesthetic opinions and reputations:

The Starry Night — good painting or bad painting? That's not for us to decide, but we note what others say. Wikipedia articles about art and other creative topics (e.g., musicians, actors, books, etc.) have a tendency to become effusive. This is out of place in an encyclopedia. Aesthetic opinions are diverse and subjective—we might not all agree about who the world's greatest soprano is. However, it is appropriate to note how an artist or a work has been received by prominent experts and the general public. For instance, the article on Shakespeare should note that he is widely considered one of the greatest authors in the English language. More generally, it is sometimes permissible to note an article subject's reputation when that reputation is widespread and informative to readers. Articles on creative works should provide an overview of their common interpretations, preferably with citations to experts holding those interpretations. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide a useful context for works of art.

Now I've seen some comments here in the talk page regarding Kanye's reputation as a musician that for lack of a better term I'd characterize as simply uninformed at best. The concern then is that the article is no longer corresponding to a wikipedia maxim:

Wikipedia has an important policy: roughly stated, you should write articles without bias, representing all views fairly.—Larry Sanger'

It comes off as punitive to retroactively consider all those previous assertions and pieces of content, such as saying considered he's one of the most influential musicians of his generation and in the hip hop genre, or the fact that the musical influence section has lost a quote or picture, can't quite remember which right now but it looks emaciated compared to how it was before. I also think it's funny how on the revision history page you can go back bit, set it to 250, and half the page is 6 months worth of edits in 2022, and then all of a sudden you have something like 700 edits for mid October to December. Clearly there is controversy, but a neutral point of view based on what happened and how it may change who Kanye is and  was considered to be I do not believe merits such drastic change so quickly. Such quick changes of such big assertions based on some reasoning such as: it being merely a matter of opinion as to whether Kanye is really one of the most influential musicians in his generation or not, give off the impression that Wikipedia is a reflection of editors whims and not so much "the general public and prominent experts," who do not change their opinion in mere weeks, much less about someones talent or ability due to comments that lie outside the scope of their talent or ability. Bobby Fischer being an antisemite did not negate the fact that he was considered one of the best Chess players of his generation. 

As for justifying the inclusion of Kanye being considered "one of the most influential..." and such other "bombastic" sounding sentences, I can attest personally, and I know this doesn't "count" for wikipedia but as someone who went to high school in America in the 2010's, went to several different universities in America in the 2020's, Kanye at one point started being considered a "genius" and then by say 2020 anyone and everyone I knew under the age of 30, and many older, who had some interest in fashion, culture, and music would concede to some extraordinary estimation of Kanye and his work. Whether that be the fact he is prolific, that his music incorporates such diverse elements and influences, or that he clearly demonstrated an aesthetic sensibility and ambition through his music, fashion, live shows, and album rollouts, it was in the many social circles I traversed, from religious, conservative, and white, to black, latino, urban, college educated, the consensus that he was a phenomenon like the Beatles in respect to acclaim and prolific output, and like Michael Jackson in spectacle and cultish fascination with his personal mythology.

As for the world outside, I could easily find and source quotes from Trump, Obama, Elon Musk, Dave Chappelle, David Lynch, Werner Herzog, Mike Tyson, Paul McCartney, Lou Reed, Elton John, Kendrick Lamar, Nick Cave, Trent Reznor, Billy Corgan, Noel Gallagher, Beck, Drake, Taylor Swift, Lorde, Rihanna, Lana Del Ray, Charli XCX, Grimes, Jay-Z, John Mayer, Dame Dash, Lil Wayne, Halsey, Katy Perry, T.I., Childish Gambino, Chance the Rapper, Travis Scott, JPEGMafia, Danny Brown, Vince Staples, Travis Barker, Piers Morgan, Lex Fridman, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Kimmel, Martin Shkreli, Jordan Peterson, Zane Lowe, Jonah Hill... if you want cultural figures from the very top in politics, business, the broader entertainment industry, the podcast circuit today, and the music industry from the last 50 years. I even excluded people who were merely reserved in their praise, like Prince who merely liked gold digger as a sample, or Rakim who says he is passionate. These people's praise on the record ranges from "He is a great artist" to "He is a genius" and the latter sentiment is not exceptional among them. If you know anything about the culture that goes on in the music industry as far as criticism goes, there was once Pitchfork and now there is Anthony Fantano, and before that there was Christgau and Lester Bangs. Lester Bangs didn't live to see Kanye, but pretty much the only artist I can think of that Pitchfork has given a 10, Fantano has given a 10, and Christgau has given full marks, is Kanye West. If some other rapper like Lil Uzi started calling themselves Steve Jobs and saying they're a genius I would not think such praise from such an illustrious crowd and the wider public at large would resonate. Just because it doesn't make sense to you does not mean it is not a state of affairs that has been consistent and consensus. If Kanye does not meet barometer that merits some language reflecting this in his lead then I really struggle to see why Kendrick Lamar, Jay-Z, the Beatles, Frank Ocean, Brian Wilson, Stevie Wonder, or really any artist with a lead including something about their influence or "genius" reputation is merited. Sluicemen (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

See this thread for reasons why such language has been removed from the lead section. As you correctly conclude, personal anecdotes have no bearing on content. It may be true that many celebrities have spoken highly of West, but without reliable sources noting that he has been "described by many as a genius" or whatever, such language would be in violation of WP:SYNTH. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 12:29, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Quoting Larry Sanger is pretty much an instant disqualifier. Zaathras (talk) 16:39, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Kanye West has 24 Grammy wins. 2600:1008:A116:DB67:E19F:925:8DCE:14D1 (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 12:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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Wife Bianca Censori married 12/01/2023 2001:8003:1630:8500:70D3:F4FF:FE36:FCBB (talk) 09:59, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Kanye West has been married to Bianca Censori, multiple sources including TMZ & Daily Mail. 148.76.27.84 (talk) 11:25, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Neither the Daily Mail or TMZ are reliable sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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In 4th paragraph of personal life section it's mentioned possibly which should be edited to make it possibility to make it correct Ayushqwerty2121 (talk) 15:01, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:19, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing and marriage to Bianca Censori

If a reliable source cites an unreliable source, does that confer reliability? Real sources like Forbes and MSN have picked this up, but they still call back to the original TMZ report. Zaathras (talk) 16:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I added "unofficially" to the article because TMZ admitted there was no evidence of a marriage license (yet) but that they had a ceremony where rings were exchanged, wedding rings which can be seen in photos. I trust Vanity Fair because they are a Condé Nast publication. Trillfendi (talk) 21:56, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Update for spouse. Kanye’s new spouse is Bianca Censori as of January 12th, 2023 50.43.137.34 (talk) 17:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:58, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Add Bianca Censori as a spouse

Whether legally married or not, she is a spouse. 2A02:C7C:582C:A100:5C8:202D:2AA0:BC66 (talk) 13:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Adding it to the infobox gets my vote. They are already publishing articles about what his ex wife things of the ordeal. Twillisjr (talk) 21:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposal: Instead of "spouse", add her as his "partner". AFAIK, spouse is reserved for persons who are legally married, while partner is acceptable for a wider range of relationships. Mgasparin (talk) 02:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Don't add her to the infobox at all. She is as of today not independently notable. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 22:49, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree; we need clairification, not rumors, before adding to infobox. I hid her name the other day until we know the facts as editors. Trillfendi (talk) 00:53, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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KANYE’S LEGAL NAME IS NOW YE. AND HE IS MARRIED TO Bianca Censori..? 2601:19C:4A09:5927:999E:3929:38C4:48E4 (talk) 05:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Nazism

Kanye west is not a nazi he literally said everyone has value and said that if people think Hes a nazi then fine Hes a nazi not to mention he apologized and even attended a Jewish church afterwards and said he loved all and in other interviews said he wishes he could give every jewish person he hurt a hug but of course you guys never add that in this is why myself and the rest of the world don’t trust you guys. Tell the whole truth not a half truth that fits your narrative. 2601:14E:80:46D0:0:0:0:89E9 (talk) 02:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources for these developments. Any relevant information can be discussed here and included if deemed due. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 13:48, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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Kanye's opening section should include the sentences that have been recently removed "West is one of the most acclaimed and influential artists of the 21st century"...this statement is still true and easily verifiable. Why has this been removed? It's a factual statement that benefits the readers of Wikipedia, giving them context about Kanye's career and life. Weare1013 (talk) 07:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Talk:Kanye West/Archive 13#Removing "most influential" from the lede ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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Why has the "Legacy" section been changed to "Musical Influence"? Has Kanye's influence across various mediums all of a sudden disappeared? Quite frankly, this is a disgrace to this entire site - the biased personal opinions of certain (easily offended) members of Wikipedia shouldn't impact a legendary figure's page to this extent. It needs to be changed back. Weare1013 (talk) 07:13, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

It's really not that deep...

Meeepmep changed it over a month ago citing the reason that the subject isn't dead. I agree, given the latter reason and the fact the subject hasn't stopped writing/releasing music. His legacy, whatever it be, has not been written. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:27, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Legendary? You don't sound particularly unbiased yourself. Also, objectively speaking, "Musical influence" better sums up the contents of that section as written than a term as vague and inflated as "Legacy". You might also want to give WP:AGF a read. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 10:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Alex Jones interview

Kanye's interview with Alex Jones should have a section, as it made the truth about him indisputable, as Jim Gerghaty put it. From that article: "Watching an ongoing train wreck of a man revel in saying the most abhorrent things he could imagine is spectacularly sad, but I won’t lie: I was genuinely amused by the sight of the legendarily unhinged conspiracy theorist Jones suddenly realizing that he was the sane one in the conversation" and "West has to be the most high-profile American celebrity to publicly embrace Nazis since Charles Lindbergh." https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-truth-about-kanye-west-is-now-indisputable/ Username2772 (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Already covered at Views of Kanye West. A summary of the key points is already included under Kanye West#Controversial views. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 23:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Tucker Carlson interview

Ye's interview with Tucker Carlson, which was edited before broadcast, is also noteworthy, as it revealed a lot about Ye and even more about Carlson. To wit: "I prefer my kids knew Hanukkah than Kwanzaa. At least it will come with some financial engineering.” “I have visions that God gives me, just over and over, on community building and how to build these free energy, kinetic, fully kinetic energy communities.” “We’re not building the new New York skyline cockfight. That we are humble in the way that we present ourselves. We’ve got to rethink who we are as a species” and “I mean, like actors, professional actors, placed into my house to sexualize my kids.” Since it didn't make the broadcast, it's in the best interest of the public to know what was Ye said that was edited out. https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ad77y/kanye-west-tucker-carlson-leaked-footage-antisemitism-fake-children Username2772 (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

I think that’s a good addition. Dronebogus (talk) 21:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! As I said elsewhere, I think the Alex Jones interview also deserves a section, as it's when "the truth about Kanye became indisputable." (See Jim Gerghaty, "The Truth About Kanye West is Now Indisputable", National Review). https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-truth-about-kanye-west-is-now-indisputable/ Username2772 (talk) 22:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

The Tucker Carlson interview is covered at Views of Kanye West#2022. So is the Alex Jones interview. In any case, further detail on his controversial views should be added to that article rather than this one. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 22:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hi I think due to his behaviour lately I think it’s best if we delete his page it would be great if you would thanks 101.177.8.152 (talk) 21:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: No. We never delete articles just because of the subject's behavior. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:38, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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Ye is currently married to Bianca Censori an architect for Yeezy. 2601:2C0:4480:1520:1572:F539:8B74:3985 (talk) 08:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 08:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Ye’ nationality should say U.S born Australian citizen

Kayne West living in Australia to meet the family of his new wife, Aussie Yeezy designer Bianca Censori.

Kanye is a u.s born Australian citizen. & this page should report the facts … not lies.

Just as the Rupert page is riddled with inaccurate information so is this page.

Both Kenya west & Rupert Murdoch are Australian citizens/passports holders. 49.184.142.61 (talk) 08:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Visiting a country does not make you a citizen of that country. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 09:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

White nationalist

Nick fuentes is a Christian nationalist not a white nationalist 130.88.226.4 (talk) 16:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

We describe Fuentes as the reliable sources describe him, not the way Fuentes describes himself. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

dumb take Becausewhynothuh? (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Who is "he"?

Hi there, could you please clarify who "he" refers to in the lead? Is that Ye or Nick Fuentes?

with Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist. He later publicly praised Adolf Hitler, denied the Holocaust,[17][18] and identified as a Nazi.

Thanks. 92.4.165.90 (talk) 18:00, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

"He" in the last sentence is in reference to Kanye West. I don't think this requires clarification. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 18:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Grammatically, maybe. But it's such a big jump in the narrative of the lead that using the actual name to make it more obvious would not be a bad idea. 92.4.165.90 (talk) 18:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think so, I think it builds up to it quite nicely (antisemitic remarks, dropped by brands, dinner with anti-Semite, Hitler comments). But I guess clarification can't hurt, so I'll replace "he" with "West". Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 18:45, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. 92.4.165.90 (talk) 19:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Add category

Not sure if Ye counts, but shouldn’t he be in Category:Candidates in the 2024 United States presidential election? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8C:701:5C20:9DD1:E7A1:721C:9ACA (talk) 20:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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The introduction falsely states "West has won 22 Grammy Awards" when he has in fact won 24. This can be seen plainly on grammy.com, the official website of the Grammy awards: https://www.grammy.com/artists/kanye-west/6900. Jack199er (talk) 23:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)