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Subsequent paragraph divisions were not influenced by your worthless interventions. Go hug your boyfriend if you feel needy, and don't troll an experienced writer.

Don't put a cleanup tag on my work.

It was more than warranted, and I'll be back to either put the tag up or clean it up, probably the latter. Thanks for the heads-up anon, and no, it's not reflective of someone writing to an academic standard.YouCanDoBetter (talk) 02:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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Officer and a Spy

Why the reversion on Roman Polanski's page? The text was put in back when the film's title wasn't known yet, but we know now. Incerto501 (talk) 03:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn’t know if it was vandalism because it said 2013 and was linked to a book. We can put it back in, but it should be with 2019 and the right link/formatting in italics. Thanks for letting me know. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Got it, thanks for clarifying! Sorry about the link error, usually I check that first. It's actually already linked twice earlier in the article so I left it unlinked but italicized this time. Incerto501 (talk) 15:42, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

No problem, have a good day! YouCanDoBetter (talk) 22:37, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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Please review WP:BRD, our page on best practices for resolving editorial disagreements when your edit has been reverted. It does no good simply to assert, as you did in your edit summary, that you are correct. That leads to edit warring, which is unconstructive. Please self-revert your second edit so that the status quo remains in the article while you advocate for your view on the article talk page. See also WP:BLP Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 23:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Normally I would agree, but there doesn't seem to be any justification in the first place to place undue emphasis on the politics of a subject when it is not relevant, e.g. "Roger Waters, a self-proclaimed socialist and musician with a history of conflict with Jewish commentators, gave his support to the Black Lives Matter movement." If I hear a single reason why Jones is worth mentioning or Stone's politics are worth mentioning, I will self-revert immediately. But at the moment it seems like politically-motivated, off-topic editorializing. Not looking for a fight, just a reason, I don't know who added this in the first place but it seems like they were just trying to go off-topic. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 00:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

The place to say that is on the article talk page -- before undoing the revert. I did not say it is all excessive. But you need to justify each part you think should be cut. Please self revert. SPECIFICO talk 01:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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Not vandalism

Hi, YouCanDoBetter. Please don't misuse the word "vandalism" in edit summaries, as you did here and here. If you take a look at our WP:Vandalism article, especially WP:NOTVAND, you'll see that neither of those edits were vandalism. (And you'll also see that "Intentional vandalism", as you wrote here, is a tautology; it's not vandalism at all if it's not intentional.) Bishonen | tålk 03:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC).

This is, in actuality, a vandalism campaign by a rogue user, and is certainly not a mere case of disruptive editing. Whatever you want to call it, it's sabotage, it's hate-based, and if someone else can effectively deal with it, then do it. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 04:07, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I looked at the contributions of the /64 range (which is all the same person) and I'm afraid I don't understand how for instance changing "black comedy" to "dark comedy" is "sabotage" or "hate-based". Our article Black comedy begins "Black comedy, also known as dark comedy, morbid humor, or gallows humor, is a style of comedy that..", so "dark comedy" is apparently considered an option at least by some. Is it because of these edit summaries that you call it hate-based? That seems a bit of a stretch. Differences of opinion are not vandalism. Bishonen | tålk 11:19, 29 December 2022 (UTC).

If you're going to label trolling "difference of opinion", we're not having a dialogue here. I'll stay out of editing these pages, if that makes it easier. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Heathers

I don't need to cite sources for summarizing the reviews being mixed or the film being a commercial flop when it is verified in the article. And your removal of "certain" from "certain polls" lends the impression that it's beyond just the few polls that were cited. But if you're fine diminishing the quality of the article, for whatever purpose... all the while dismissing the effort another editor puts into explaining their actions... have at it. I'll save my emotions for a worthier avenue. 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 04:08, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't believe the reviews being mixed is verified in the article, it would need to be a substantial percentage to qualify as mixed. You haven't explained how it's mixed yet. Almost all films that are considered to have a positive, unmixed reception have well-over two bad reviews. If it's mentioned elsewhere in the body that it was actually mixed, and not just some bad reviews, point to it and I'll back off. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 04:12, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

You're accusing me of "emotionality" because I specified how many polls are actually cited? Lmao 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 23:54, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Where are your sources for the claim that it has been ranked as such in polls? Apart from the three polls themselves?? Youre a total hypocrite. Leave me alone. You can have this article with your Ninja sidekick, who dismisses relevant(!) essays concerning summarizing in the lead in leiu of explicit sourcing(!)... 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 23:58, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Easy, skipper. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 23:59, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Lmao Some wikipedian 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 00:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

The Pale Blue Eye cast

Hi. I have undid your edit here because I'm not sure what "end credits based on tombstones" you are referring to? The cast list is directly based on the end credits as you can see here. Mike Allen 14:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

It's not a big deal to me, but the way I was taught is basing the order on the individual credit slides (sometimes referred to as "tombstone credits") before the scroll. I don't know if there's a policy either way as to which takes precedence, so I'm not pushing for it. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I'll look into it, but until then I'm good with keeping as is.

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I’m not quite sure why you keep adding Jazz as a genre. The AllMusic review doesn’t state jazz anywhere in the review. I’m assuming you’re adding jazz because it’s listed under Genres right below Release Date and Duration. That is not what we follow per Template:Infobox album states — The field should include the music genre(s) that best describes the album. It should come from a reliable source and also be stated and referenced in the body of the article. Jazz is not stated as a genre in the body of the article, so please refrain from adding it back unless you find a reliable source that actually calls the album a jazz album. Pillowdelight (talk) 04:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Duly noted on Allmusic. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 21:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Curtis Hanson

Great job trimming Curtis Hanson. I was planning to what you did. I couldn't ask for a better follow up. I was planning to do the same

I have to disagree with the trim you gave The Bedroom Window. Though. I think you over trimmed it. Anyways let me know if you intent to pursue the article or would you like I can continue pasting relevant information to it and let you do the rest?

Thanks. Filmman3000 (talk) 04:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I'll step aside and let you take the lead. I may help out and trim some later, but you're doing a good job. I'll have to look at The Bedroom Window again at some point, maybe I did over-trim it. Thanks for the heads-up. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 05:00, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I re-added a trimmed version of what I had stamped. I will let you know or you will notice my next load. Filmman3000 (talk) 00:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hey I dropped the new load. Come check it out and take the lead. Filmman3000 (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good Filmman. When I get a chance I'll take a look. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 01:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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Village People

It was an album, and here's the RIAA ref: https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=Village+People&ti=Village+People&format=Album&type=#search_section Hotcop2 (talk) 01:39, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll go the talk page. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 01:47, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

McCartney

Apologies for my revert. I obviously didn't look very closely. Happy editing! Sundayclose (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

No problem, and thank you my friend. Happy editing! YouCanDoBetter (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Discographies

Are the rules you apply written down anywhere? Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

What rule are we talking about? YouCanDoBetter (talk) 02:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

The ones you use to edit discographies, such as solo material first; live albums and compilations for solo work but not for anything else; removal of explanatory notes etc. Bretonbanquet (talk) 02:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Just Wikipedia precedent, all the major articles, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, etc. Solo material is the center of the article, all the band material are secondary material in the context of a solo discography. The explanatory notes I was only removing for information that is available on the page, I'm assuming the notes were originally put up when the records themselves didn't have pages, so that's just de-cluttering. But I won't push it any further, just looking for consistency across pages. Ideally the band work that has its own discography shouldn't appear on the page at all, it should just be linked, but there are cases where the artist didn't perform across the whole band discography, so the primary albums/singles are placed there to denote span. But it's not common to mention compiled/remixed/live work. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

One size doesn't always fit all. Every career is different, and sometimes a solo career is the least significant part of an artist's output - Kirwan being a good example. A sizeable number of his Fleetwood Mac compositions can only be found on compilation albums and live albums, which are now absent from his discography. On Green's page, there's no mention of big chunks of his work with Fleetwood Mac (which is all most people care about), yet there's still a huge list of low-budget solo compilations, which all feature basically the same songs. Don't let consistency be the enemy of clarity and valuable content. Bretonbanquet (talk) 02:59, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but that is why there is a Fleetwood Mac discography page, an institution that is not a part of the body of work done under his own name; same goes for Kirwan, the majority of his written compositions were written for the institution of Fleetwood Mac, but those are their recordings, not his. Anyone looking for his solo discography are looking for his recordings, not the work he did as an employee of Fleetwood Mac. I definitely believe the low-budget comps should be eliminated, the unauthorized one, but that's a discussion for another time. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:06, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

These two pages were not intended to be solely solo discographies, but a reference of all that artist's recorded work. The Fleetwood Mac discography page doesn't indicate which releases feature Green or Kirwan, so that page is of little use to those searching only for the work of those two artists. There seems to me to be no reason to disallow information simply because it exists elsewhere in a less helpful form. Taking Kirwan as an example, if only his solo work is to be featured, then there's no point in having a separate page - just merge it with the main article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 03:19, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

The Fleetwood material is still up on the Kirwan page. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:22, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

It's true though that attention should be brought to the Fleetwood Mac discography at the top, I'm taking care of that. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:11, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, if you're only going to include a fraction of their work with Fleetwood Mac, then it's better to remove it all. Just selecting some of the studio albums and a bunch of singles just looks half-assed. Then redirect the Kirwan discography to his main page. I created that page to help people find all his work, not some of it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 03:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I included all of the work (obviously the outtakes don't count, I trust that's not what you're referring to), but I will suggest the page be merged with the main page. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 03:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)