Talk:List of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches
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Chart to track fairing recovery
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Currently in the article there doesn't appear to be a way to track the success on fairing recovery by catching in a net. I recommend that either an existing chart include this metric or an additional chart be added. War (talk) 21:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- What should be done in cases where there is more then one outcome? For example the Starlink launch L10 v1.0 had one fairing caught while the other was recovered out of the water. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 22:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Fairing catch success
- Splashdown recovery
- No attempt
- No fairing
Reference material - used the refs from the main page
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- Something like this? Only did for 2019/2020 so far. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 01:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Each launch produces two entries. I see space for a graph but not for a table if we get reliable sources for each outcome (or we need an unknown bar). --mfb (talk) 03:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- I like the chart. I also agree that there are two fairings per launch and each can have a different result.War (talk) 05:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Each launch produces two entries. I see space for a graph but not for a table if we get reliable sources for each outcome (or we need an unknown bar). --mfb (talk) 03:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Does anybody know a good website/source where we have fairing recovery data? It seems like SpaceX rarely updates the status of fairings unless they catch it or on their launch webcasts. Maybe https://spacexfleet.com/, but don't want to copy it... OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 19:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- So long as it's just data points you're citing, then it's not copying. Just a "Success", "Failure", "Partial success" type thing isn't an issue. I would not go into the level of detail that spacexfleet does. — Huntster (t @ c) 22:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- As an update - I'm still working on this, but I a noticing there are missions we do not know a lot about. To be frank SpaceX when it comes to fairings they are not transparent. We have to rely on (and thankful for) photographers who are at the Port Canaveral Port to get the condition of fairings. Tho there are a few webcasts where they do say condition of fairngs. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 00:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- As SpaceX has abandoned the net recovery effort, my suggestion is no longer needed.War (talk) 06:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
EWS RROCI Inclusion?
Is it widely agreed upon that the deployment failure of EWS RROCI should be specifically highlighted in the "Launch Outcome" column of the launch list? While nothing is factually incorrect about this, similar incidents, like the Zuma deployment failure in 2019, are not highlighted. I personally feel like this incident shouldn't be recorded as a failure in the Launch Outcome column because there is no conclusive proof that SpaceX, the launch operator, was at fault, unlike the partial failure of the Orbcomm-OG2 satellite, for example. I think it would be best to reserve this incident in the notes section of the list directly below the mission information. Obviously, if word comes out that SpaceX is on the hook for the deployment failure, this issue could be revisited. I know this change isn't cut and dry, so I wanted to hear thoughts before I made any edits regarding this. Muskfanboy48 (talk) 07:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- From what I can gather, it failed to deploy. Seemingly, it went down while still attached to the upper stage. Apparently there is word of an FCC filing that confirms this, but I haven't been able to find it yet.
- Contrasting this, Launcher's Orbiter SN1 (which flew on the same flight) successfully deployed but failed subsequently because the vehicle was "not able to generate power from our solar panels due to an orientation control issue caused by a fault in our GPS antenna system."
- This would track with the current convention, where if a payload fails to deploy (ORBCOMM-OG2), it counts as a mission failure (or partial failure). I'm imagining because Zuma's payload adapter was supplied by someone other than SpaceX, that's counted as part of the mission vehicle, and it's one less thing on SpaceX's criteria for mission success.
- I will update if I find anything new. Raftonyxdevoutly (talk) 10:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Further split of 'Future Launches/2023'?
@C-randles, @103.27.142.111 & other users have been frequently editing expected launch date & times, along with reasons for likely delays.
While I do not have any issue with the reasons for delay - they are all logical deductions - I do believe there is a cleaner way of presenting the list of future launches.
My suggestion is to create a new table above the current one for 2023 launches to list all launches where a date, time and booster can be listed. For the rest of the launches, the 'NET' date shall be stated, even if there is no logical possibility of launch in that month.
This way, there is no need to continuously update these dates based on new information provided by agencies like the FAA or FCC.
It'd look something like:
FUTURE LAUNCHES
2023
Launches with boosters allocated
These launches have a tentative date, time and booster allocated to them.
Date and time (UTC) | Version, booster[a] |
Launch site | Payload[b] | Orbit | Customer |
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19 April 2023[1] 12:28[2] |
F9 B5 ♺ B1067.11 |
CCSFS, SLC-40 |
Starlink Group 6-2 (~21 satellites) | LEO | SpaceX |
An East Coast v2 Starlink launch to their Generation 2 network. | |||||
25 April 2023 13:02[3] |
F9 B5 ♺ B1061.13 |
VSFB, SLC-4E |
Starlink Group 3-5 (~46 satellites) | SSO | SpaceX |
A West Coast Starlink launch to a 560 km Sun-synchronous orbit at an inclination of 97.6°. | |||||
24 April 2023 23:24[3] |
Falcon Heavy B5 B1068 (core)[4] |
KSC, LC-39A |
ViaSat-3 Americas Aurora 4A (Arcturus) Nusantara-H1-A |
GEO | ViaSat Astranis / Pacific Dataport PT Pasifik Satelit Nusantara |
B1052.8♺ (side) | |||||
B1053.3♺ (side) | |||||
This mission will directly inject the satellites to geostationary orbit, thus the core and side boosters are all expendable alongside having the sixth second stage featuring Falcon mission-extension kit. Satellites of the ViaSat-3 class use electric propulsion, which requires less fuel for stationkeeping operations over their lifetime.[5] |
Launches expected on manifest
The following launches are expected on the launch manifest, but no further details have been available.
Date and time (UTC) | Version, booster[a] |
Launch site | Payload[b] | Orbit | Customer |
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NET 28 April 2023 21:12[6] |
F9 B5 | CCSFS, SLC-40 |
O3b mPOWER 3 & 4 | MEO | SES |
Second part of SES' MEO satellites for its O3b low-latency, high-performance connectivity services.[7] | |||||
NET 9 May 2023 02:43[6] |
F9 B5 B1080 |
KSC, LC-39A |
Ax-2 | LEO (ISS) | Axiom Space |
Contract for 3 additional missions was signed in June 2021.[8] Peggy Whitson and John Shoffner were signed on as commander and pilot. The third and fourth seats were bought by Saudi Arabia. The Saudi crew members were revealed to be Ali AlQarni and Rayyanah Barnawi. | |||||
NET Early May 2023[9] | F9 B5 | VSFB, SLC-4E |
Iridium-NEXT (5 satellites) OneWeb (15 Gen1 satellites with a Gen2 test satellite) |
Polar LEO | Iridium |
Iridium-9 rideshare mission, carrying five on-orbit spare Iridium-NEXT satellites along with 15 Gen1 and a demo Gen2 OneWeb satellites. | |||||
NET 22 May 2023 | F9 B5 | CC, SLC-40/LC-39A |
Arabsat 7B (Badr-8) | GTO | Arabsat |
Includes Airbus's TELEO optical communications payload demonstrator. |
Raftonyxdevoutly (talk) 02:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Move older 2020-2022 launches to another page?
The page length has gotten a bit unwieldy. Can we split off the 2020-2022 into another page? High F9 cadence may justify a different treatment than the customary breakdown by decade. Obellik (talk) 04:52, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that based on the currently planned launch rate (80+ per year), starting with 2023, it might be better to have a separate page for Falcon 9 launches in each year. Rebell44 (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Separate crewed list
Crewed launches are far more notable and SpaceX already has plenty of them that a fork would be appropriate for those. Those could contain more details like time spent at ISS and stuff like that. That way, the blurb here can be kept a bit trimmed also. 2A02:2F01:F207:3C00:F14B:BCD:CB0C:42D7 (talk) 21:53, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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