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Riley-Smith, Ben (2023). The Right to Rule: Thirteen Years, Five Prime Ministers and the Implosion of the Tories. Hodder & Stoughton. ISBN978-1-39-981029-6.
I see that under someone has written do not change "as at" to "as of". Is "as of" not correct, considering that the present is a time that has already passed, and so "of" reflects this. Ellwat (talk) 15:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree from a grammar POV. However, I believe this point was discussed during the Featured Article nomination process and "at" agreed on – possibly by non-British/Irish contributors Billsmith60 (talk) 12:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marginataen - Can you please attempt to use the sfn system which is employed throughout the article? I know it's difficult at first, but spend some time on it. Also, I'm not convinced your additions are pertinent to Truss, or the Queen, or anyone or anything mentioned in the article at all really. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:45, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For the purposes of the FA criteria: using a consistent referencing style. There are books used as references and it's not practical to repeat all the information for the source like we would use for a newspaper ref. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:52, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Tim O'Doherty, if she blames so many things for the collapse of her premiership, would it not be beneficial to list more of those things? Say… “Truss has attributed the collapse of her premiership to a number of factors, including XXX, YYY, and ZZZ” Snokalok (talk) 18:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think in this instance it's noteworthy because of the length of her premiership. Also, when Prime Ministers leave office, which is normally through losing an election, they tend not to blame. Ellwat (talk) 18:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to be pedantic, but all of them left office through resigning, and not through losing an election. I don't think WP:MANDY applies here because the circumstances in which Truss left office were remarkable, and what she is saying is also remarkable, ie it's not a commonly-held view and is eye-catching. I doubt either of us have strong opinions either way, so surely it's better to leave it in than removing it. Ellwat (talk) 19:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not saying that Truss’s words on this are at all the truth, but the reflections of a fallen figure on their fall from grace - however unhinged they might be - are a worthy inclusion, I’d argue. There’s not a WP:KANYE, but if there was I’d say WP:KANYE, because Kanye’s reflections on his fall from grace - while incredibly unhinged - are worthy information when attributed properly. Snokalok (talk) 20:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My edit removed unnecessary elements from the prose, per WP:BECONCISE. For example:
In early September 2023 she announced her memoirs about her time as prime minister—titledTen Years to Save the West—which is planned to be released in April 2024. -> In early September 2023 she announced her memoirs about her time as prime minister, Ten Years to Save the West, which is planned for release in April 2024. This is just the same information in fewer words (verobosity bolded).
the BBC's political editor Faisal Islam wrote in an article that "Trussonomics is dead" — It isn't important to call out where Islam wrote this. If we say a BBC political wrote editor something, people will assume it was in a BBC article. If the reader wants to see exactly where they wrote it they can check the citation.
Truss is known for her economically liberal views and support for free trade and deregulation. Is it actually important to say that she is known for having these views or is the important thing that she has these views? Should we also report that she is known for being the prime minister of the UK or is it OK to just say she was the prime minister of the UK? (Additionally, does the source actually say she is known for these views or is that additional WP:OR we're throwing in?)
she co-launched the Popular Conservatism group along with others We do not need to say she co-launched something when she did it along with others, that's what "co-" means.
I disagree that a quote can be changed in any way whatsoever. Stick to what it says: exactly, without changing the words from American to British spelling. Apparently there is also a British English source for that 'center/centre' quote. Use it then. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 11:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Post-premiership (2022–present): Green Dragon Coalition Conference
In March 2024, Ms Truss' parliamentary register of interests showed that Ms Truss accepted a donation of just under £20,000 from an organisation called the Green Dragon Coalition, to attend their three-day conference held at a private hotel on Sea Island, located off the coast of Georgia between 2 and 4 February. This was reported by several UK national news outlets.[1][2][3][4]
I had begun the process of adding the first reference to that section on the page[1] when the edit was removed as 'Not cited' and my second edit adding the text appended to the citation was removed for reason of 'no established notability here',[2] by @Tim O'Doherty before I could finish adding the citations and text in the page's chosen reference style.
I maintain that it's a notable addition to the section Post-premiership (2022-present): and disagree with what I perceived at the time to be a rather hasty removal, hence my creation of a new topic to discuss its inclusion.
The Green Dragon Coalition's donation to Ms. Truss was the largest donation of the total £32,000 she received for her tour of the US in February 2024[5] Liz Truss' tour of America in Februrary 2024 was notable as it began with a private conference organised by the Green Dragon Coalition, and attended by Liz Truss, Jordan Peterson and prominent backers of Donald Trump[1] and culminated with her first speaking engagement at a CPAC conference, where she spoke alongside Donald Trump and Steve Bannon.[1] Truss promoted her book's forthcoming release at CPAC and has since written that: "Trump back in the White House would also be a boost for UK-US relations."[6]
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