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My fault for not doing this earlier, but I want to propose merging the B67 and B69 pages. They share around half of their route together, and have interlined frequencies and share a timetable with each other, and considering that other route groups that share this share a page, I was thinking the same could happen for the B67 and B69
Considering that the B67 and B69 are going to be serving both different north and south terminals by next year, you could merge them now, but for the sake of the history of both bus services, it would be best to keep them separated. —LRG5784 (talk·contribs·email) 22:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
<F> express
I personally have a problem with this whole <F> express thing. Unlike the respective <6> and <7> expresses, the <F> express is just simply two trains per day in the peak direction during rush hours. Can I please ask if it's possible to get approval for it to be removed entirely and instead just simply mention in the notes, history and lede section of the F train article? Please? Any thoughts? Just curious. TheMasterofAllHitmans (talk) 02:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's more of an MTA question than a Wikipedia question. As reduced by comparison as it may be, it still has a separate diamond, physical signage, and rollsigns/LEDS consistent with the <5> and <6>. Cards8466414:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rellmerr, don't get snarky with me first of all. No duh it doesn't even have its own article, but like I said from the beginning, it's just simply two trains a day compared to the <6> and <7> expresses as well as the 5 express in the Bronx. It should only be a note in the F train article. That's all I was asking so save your snarky attitude for someone else. If you have nothing positive to say, then move along. TheMasterofAllHitmans (talk) 20:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't snark, it was an actual question. You didn't make clear what you were asking for, it sounded like you were arguing that the <F> shouldn't have an article, and it doesn't. I literally said I'm not sure what you're asking to be removed. You made this note on the project talk page without context, so it needed clarification. That's it. I don't know what got you so upset, but don't take that out on me.
But this has been discussed already. It is mostly a note on the F article. If your argument is that we shouldn't include it as a route on the infoboxes, firstly you should state that explicitly.
Also, this is Wikipedia. Even had I meant what you assumed, this is a collaborative process. We're supposed to discuss even if we disagree, that's how we reach WP:CONSENSUS on a decision like the one you're (unclearly) asking people to make based on your personal feelings.
But if this were a !vote, I'd weakly oppose removing the <F>. Sure it's only four trips a day, but the Z has only 12 or so. What's the cutoff before we include/exclude? -- rellmerr(talk page • contribs)20:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rellmerr Yes, my argument this entire time is that we should not include the <F> express on the info boxes because it's only two trains a day. Plain and simple. So please miss me with "my personal feelings". I do not see why was this so misunderstood or dismissed for. You guys need to think. Just only mention it briefly in the lede section and put a note in the station section of the F train article. The Jay Street–MetroTech, 7th Avenue and Church Avenue station articles can just simply say "the two center express tracks are used by two peak direction rush hour F trips" instead. Also, why are you comparing this to the Z? The J and Z skip-stop services are officially advertised in the official subway map, on platforms and on the MTA's official website and app. Whereas the <F> express hardly isn't, so you can't make that comparison. Is this clear enough for you guys or do you guys need another demonstration? Sheesh. TheMasterofAllHitmans (talk) 23:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
M86 Gracie Mansion trips
I was doing some research on the M86 bus route and there is no mention of the Gracie Mansion trippers that used to be part of the route. I was looking into old timetable from between 2007 and 2015 that showed the M86 deviating off it's normal route and continuing further to East End Avenue where it would end without any return trips, with return trips being factored in as time went on, either starting at York Avenue/86th Street or at East End Avenue. I could use past editions of the M86 timetable as sources in order to add the information in, which I obtained from the Internet Archive. —LRG5784 (talk·contribs·email) 22:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]