User talk:Readro

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Also wanted to welcome you to WikiProject NASCAR! --D -Day ^{I'm all ears How can I improve?} 14:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject F1

Hi. Welcome to Wikiproject F1.

You may have noticed that we have set up a monthly 'Article Improvement Drive' to provide us with the selected articles on portal:Formula One. So far we have got Damon Hill up to Featured Article status (It appeared on the Wikipedia front page on 3 August) and Gilles Villeneuve up to Good Article status, so we're not doing too badly!

The current article up for improvement is Minardi - the very popular small Italian team, bought by Red Bull at the end of last year. Feel free to help out with it. Also see Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management of selected articles for how you can vote on the next article to be up for improvement. Cheers. 4u1e 20:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject British Motorsport - Collaboration of the month

The British Motorsport Wikiproject which you are a listed as a member of has started a collaboration of the month. You can nominate and vote for articles related to Motorsport in the UK with a view to working to improve one article each month to Good Article status. Please take a moment to have a look at the project page here. Thanks! Alexj2002 13:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Groverwilliams Monaco 1929.jpg

Heya, just wanted to point out although you've put a fair use rationale on the above image, it still needs the source of where you got it (website address or whatever). Part 6(a) of the Good Article criteria states "the images are tagged and have succinct and descriptive captions" - the lack of a source tag on the above image could prevent Monaco Grand Prix from reaching GA status. If you could edit it and add source information that would be great. Thanks, Alexj2002 14:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK to me. Thanks for sorting that. Alexj2002 22:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1950 Isle of Man TT

I noticed your edit of 1950 Isle of Man TT and added the race template (I made a while ago) and external links to race results that you may not be aware of. While looking at the Isle of Man TT template, in another TT year's page I quickly noticed a no-longer red linked year so had a look at it. I have been working on the early results and try to add some comments about the meeting so it is not just a bland results page. I suppose it would be ideal to attempt to keep the format as similar as possible from year to year. If you know about this period you might want to do likewise. At the moment I have worked my way up to 1922, so any assistance is welcome. Cheers ww2censor 18:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, it is not necessary to wikilink every instance of rider and machine, once is enough and I believe recommended. I only link once in the results but occasionally in the top text. ww2censor 18:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image tagging for Image:MonacoSpeeds.svg

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If you are thinking of keeping this image you could always put a "notorphan" tag on the image page to keep it from being deleted per the notification I happened to see on your page. ww2censor 23:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The Leoncavallo F1 debate

I just posted a "reality check" in the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Leoncavallo F1 Racing Team, and wanted to drop a line to make sure it was clear that I wasn't targeting you with my comments, but rather those who are putting up the most tenacious defense of an article I've yet seen on WP. Too bad the article can't be deleted merely on the basis of "bad form" of its adherents! If these folks can't follow the simple rules here at Wikipedia, how are they going to effectively compete in a motorsport resplendent with rules?? Thanks for your input! Akradecki 01:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Readro!

Hello, Readro! I'm Clamster5. While creating new and interesting articles is extremely helpful to the Wikipedia project, there are more than 19,000 articles that need to cleaned up. These articles could use your knowledge and time. There are so many pages currently needing clean-up that there is guaranteed to be something that you find interesting. Even fixing up just one is a huge help. If every editor on wikipedia edited just one article each, the backlog would be cleared in no time.

Thanks! Clamster5.

Motorcycling Wikiproject

Welcome to the Motorcycling WikiProject. Hopefully you have a good time, start many new articles and can contribute lots to the existing ones as we need that. Cheers ww2censor 03:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done for your entries such as 1962 Grand Prix motorcycle racing season but is it possible that you could gradually go through them starting with 1963. 40 years of racing is practically missing. THis work is highly valuable. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 11:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well let your motivation also come from me who thinks you are doing a brilliant job. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that guy is really 77 years old!! How cool is he in his biker jacket! It just goes to show you how motocycle racing and racing in general keeps you young man! The guy is old enough to be a great grandad! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GP moto racing template

I noticed that you modified the template {{Grand Prix motorcycle racing}} but wondered why you added line breaks after 1970 and 1992? Without the line breaks the dates will float to the width of the box according to the browser and resolution of the user but with the breaks you force the lines to break at those points and in some browsers and at some resolutions the line will break again unattractively instead of breaking freely according to the browser window width. It is up to you but for me I would leave the line breaks out. Cheers and thanks for the motorcycling enthusiasm on Wikipedia. ww2censor 20:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I tried to modify it, as I thought some of the formatting was looking a bit odd in places. I forgot that the changes I was making would look different for other resolutions, and I fully agree with you that it doesn't work. I'm going to try some things to see what I can come up with. If I can't improve it then I'll put it back to what it was. Readro 20:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to keep all comment together, so added your comment back here. Hope that's ok with you. All you other changes seemed fine except for the line breaks. If you make your browser window narrow, you will see some of the type of result other viewers may see with the flow of dates. ww2censor 21:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Tyrrell-Smith or H.G. Tyrell Smith

Re German motorcycle Grand Prix. Been trying to find biographical info on this racer, and wondered where you found that spelling of Tyrell (?), and if u have any bio info on him? Everything I have on him is at User:Seasalt/Vincent. He is in thirties TT races as the H G name version. Just a blind chance..Seasalt 12:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

peer review

Thanks for the note; the weird thing is that I'm actually not a bot, which means that I'm just getting extremely forgetful. It is there now. AZ _t 22:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isle of Man TT

You recent edit adding Famous IOM riders seems totally redundant because all those riders you listed are already listed in the winners list and it is a very incomplete list ignoring many much more famous riders than some of those you added. If they are winners, then, imho, it implies they are famous riders already. I would suggest you remove it. Cheers ww2censor 13:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transreal number

You redirected Transreal number to NaN as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transreal number, but it appears that someone considered that vandalism and it is now back to how it was. Maybe the page could use some protection? Readro 22:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know! —Mets501 (talk) 22:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mauricio Gugelmin-GA

Hey. I was wondering if you could take a quick look at my comments on the article Mauricio Gugelmin. I'm considering passing it out of GA but would like to see some small improvements I listed. Since you originally asked for the nomination, I figured I'd ask you about this. --Wizardman 20:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The prose looks a lot better now. If you could improve the transitions and such in the PacWest section and not have so many mini-paragraphs I'd be willign to make thie a Good Article. Basically, just look over what I wrote in the Talk Page again. Plus, who else worked with you on this article? I'll drop them a line about this.--Wizardman 02:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on the GA - well done! 4u1e 22:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've put 'Big Mo' on the F1 portal for January. Cheers. 4u1e 20:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No trouble. No one else ever seems to want to do it, so at least I get to pick! :D 4u1e 21:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I thought I'd been clear on the original version, but as I'm the only one who ever changes it I suspect I wasn't. It does say that it's the improvement drive of the month that should go on the portal. As I've been delinquent about pushing that concept recently we haven't really had any, although there have been group efforts on various articles. There is also a note (hidden at the bottom of the list of GA/FA) that one of the existing GA/FA should be picked if there is no successful improvement drive that month. It doesn't say anything about who makes the changes though, does it? I was trying to just write what should happen, on the basis that whoever happened to be passing could do it. Maybe I'll redraft and make it clearer. In the meantime, feel free to change it on that basis at the beginning of the month if you want to. Or not, if you don't - one of the things I quite like about Wikipedia is that we can all agree that something is terribly important and needs doing, and then wander off and do what we want anyway :D. Unlike work, unfortunately. Cheers. 4u1e 21:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:A-Class motorsport articles

The category you wrote, Category:A-Class motorsport articles, is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related categories.Eli Falk 14:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ford Five Hindred

Recently you have labled the article Specification levels of the Ford Five Hundred as spam. I DID NOT create it for spaming or advertising, I created it so readers would know more about the car. I AM NOT SPAMINGSenators^{Talk | Contribs} 00:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Monaco Grand Prix FAC

Monaco Grand Prix is currently a FAC. Just letting you know. Buc 07:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Monaco Grand Prix

Wasn't me that put it there - I think it was user:Bole2. I can see arguments either way. The map in the infobox is a long way from the text on the circuit and is less detailed. On the other hand, the current layout seems to have too many pictures crammed into a small space! 4u1e 12:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Bole2 tried that and found it didn't work for some reason. In principle no reason why not, but the picture has to be smaller there, so perhaps the detail's not clear? 1994 San Marino Grand Prix went FA with several different graphics of the circuit, on the basis that they showed different things. I don't feel strongly either way. Thanks for all your work on the article, by the way! 4u1e 00:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

copyright?

It's dubious how this new image could be copyrighted considering its age.Circeus 01:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agassiz

The image says it has a copyright, in the lower left corner, so I would prefer the one up for FP. Also, the one at FPC is over 1000 pixels, while this one was 850. You should ask Garion96 about the copyright, since he's an expert on that, and I'm not. :-) · AO ^Talk 10:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Importance ratings

Hi Readro. Just a quick comment on the importance rating that you have been assigning to some F1-related topics. I can't help feeling that you are over doing it a bit. The Top rating, according to the assessment page, is reserved for those articles that are extremely important, even crucial, to its specific field. As we are assessing through the WP Motorsport system, this field and frame of reference is all of motorsport, not just F1. You could quite easily have a long discussion on motorsport and never mention John Surtees for example, so he can't possibly qualify for Top billing. In fact you probably could do so without mentioning luminaries such as Ayrton Senna or Michael Scumacher, although these would be more notable. As far as I can see, Top should be reserved for those subjects on which even a disinterested passer by in the street would be able to comment on. Pyrope 20:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Both good points I grant you. But thinking in terms of encyclopedic priority (which is what the ratings are for, not simply about how famous a topic is) I would personally argue that no driver of rider, or indeed driver/rider, should qualify for Top rating. Think about it in terms of a conversation with somebody who has absolutely zero prior knowlege:

You: I've just read a fascinating article about Ayrton Senna.

Them: Who?

Y: He was an amazing Formula One driver, won the Championship loads of times, and was quite a colourful and controversial character.

T: What's Formula One?

Y: Its the top form of four-wheeled motorsport.

So you can't talk about Senna to an uninitiated person without referring to F1 or Motorsport, but you can certainly talk about motorsport without needing to refer to Senna. And in Surtees' case you need to talk about both F1 and MotoGP, both of which would have priority over the man himself. Once in a while a driver/rider will make headlines (Schumi, Senna, Rossi etc) and so will possibly qualify for Top rating as a newsworthy personality, but the vast majority of the meat puppets at the wheel/handlebar are "only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area", in that someone outside MotoGP probably wouldn't care about Loris Capirossi etc etc. That would make them Mid rated. People who have won championships would probably move up to High priority, as they are "extremely notable, but has not achieved international notability, or is only notable within a particular continent". I personally think that this is poorly worded, and the last word should read "context", which would make more sense. Hence, someone with international notability, but only as an F1 driver, would fit this field. After all, somone may be known internationally, and still be insignificant to the topic. If you argue that being known over a number of continents puts you in the Top/High priority brackets, then I'm afraid that almost every World Championship driver and rider, even those with only brief careers, will have to go in there, making a mockery of the rating system.

I still stand by my assessment that Top should be reserved for those articles that are crucial to the understanding of the broad "motorsport" topic, and for luminaries as mentioned above. I agree that there is a case for Surtees, but I just feel that his achievements (team owner, car designer and race promotor too, don't forget...) are too far in the past to be relevant to a discussion of motorsport as it currently is. This is the criteria that I would argue also excludes Moss and even the sainted Fangio from Top ratings, much as it pains a classic motorsport fan to type such heresey.

Blimey, that took longer to say than I had planned on. Sorry for cluttering your talk page! Pyrope 09:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Agassiz statue Mwc00715.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Agassiz statue Mwc00715.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for nominating it! KFP (talk | contribs) 23:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Readro,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Agassiz statue Mwc00715.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on April 1, 2007. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2007-04-01. howcheng {chat} 16:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP Motorsport template

Hi, A few days ago over on the Motorsport talk page you suggested a revised template we should use. I then put in a consensus so people could say whether they like/dislike the template. Unfortunately, only three people have put there opinions. What should we do about it? Should we wait a few more days, or what? Sorry to bother you. Davnel03 15:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Readro, am I just being ignored or something. It's like the template is no longer a matter. I set up a consensus, three people have responded, yet you've done nothing to the template. I'm really getting annoyed. Davnel03 16:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What should we do now? Just wait?!! Davnel03 20:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a note on the talkpages of the people that were involved in the discussion. Hopefully we'll come to a consensus now. Thanks. Davnel03 16:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation Newsletter delivery

The March 2007 issue of the Aviation WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 17:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maserati 4CL and 4CLT

Hi Readro. I just uploaded the above page, and I was was wondering whether you would take a look please? I'm sure that there are details that I have missed and some that might be incorrect, and I'd appreciate your comments on the page as a whole. Also, I have had no luck in tracking down any free-use images, and I was hoping that you might have a few tucked away in your stash that you might be prepared to use? Anyway, if you have time that would be great. Thanks! Pyrope 11:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. I picked up on the fact that you seem to be into the older end of our sport, so I thought you would be a good pair of eyes to take a look. You know how it gets when you have been spending four or five days collating data and putting an article together, can't see the flaws for the whirling letters in front of your eyes. I do get paid for this, right? :-) Pyrope 22:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The pic looks great, good work! Pyrope 12:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

European Championship

Thank you for the great work on the article about the European Championship! John Anderson 15:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox motorsport championship

Hello, Readro. I'm not sure that I agree with your addition of opt-out code for the "drivers" and "teams" fields in the above infobox. While it won't change the box's appearance per se, it may encourage editors to be a bit lazy in their research and leave that data out (and it is readily available data). This is key data, even for defunct championships, because it gives a good impression of how successful (or not) that series is/was. That's why I left them as mandatory fields when I created that template. Of course, if you have in mind a series for which this data is not available, then having the option makes total sense. In which case, I'll add some more info to the usage instructions on its talk page. It's not a big deal or anything; I just wanted to seek your thoughts about it. Regards, Adrian M. H. 17:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, don't worry about reverting it or anything. I'd be surprised if we couldn't find, or work out, the necessary totals from somewhere, but if that info is really not available, then it's probably better to have no fields than "N/A", but I'll leave that to personal choice. Engines and chassis would still be relevant, because (as it does with other series) it will serve to indicate variety. For example, there might have been a number of identical customer chassis (like March or something) and a bunch of DFVs, or lost of variety. Let me know if I can help in any way. Thanks for the reply. Regards, Adrian M. H. 17:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Readro. Good to hear about the source - good ones are like gold dust. I think that we might as well keep those fields optional, and I'll add some better instructions/examples to that all the motorsport templates. P.S. Did you know that the edit section links on your talk page seem to be out of sync? The link for this section revealed a blank edit window and I had to click the one above it. Very odd! Regards, Adrian M. H. 16:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pickup Truck Racing

Hey there, thanks for the help with the Pickup page! We have our first race this weekend, so I've asked some of the track photographers for some copyright free/copyright controlled driver photographs to replace the publicity shots currently on the page.

Violentbob 18:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, thanks for the input, I'd rather the page be 'right' and I can see where you are going. I wouldn't be concerned with the technical specs section; yes they are lifted (and modified) from the website but after a conversation with SHP Motorsport (the site's owners) earlier today they are happy for me to use content from the site, including the driver pictures. The website obvously does not have details of this as it was a conversation I had directly with them; how do you suggest I approach this with regards tagging the images? Can I just leave them with the current promotional copyright tag (which is correct) and add a line stating the source and image owner is SHP Motorsport?

Violentbob 21:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link re. images copyrights. I've emailed the owners of the images so with a bit of luck I'll get a reply soon, and I can forward this on to Wikipedia as directed

The page is looking good; a lot better than it did before :D

Mathematics CotW

Hey Readro, I am writing you to let you know that the Mathematics Collaboration of the week(soon to "of the month") is getting an overhaul of sorts and I would encourage you to participate in whatever way you can, i.e. nominate an article, contribute to an article, or sign up to be part of the project. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks--Cronholm144 00:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Davnel03/Neldav/Daviiid

Hmmm...

F1, MotoGP and wrestling preferences... CHECK
Arsenal supporter. CHECK
Most recent edits along the lines of "JS: fixing MoS and other miscellaneous style problems..." CHECK
Lazy automated "peer review" contributions. CHECK
Laughable, self-justifying attempt to build a "newbie" persona on WP:F1 page. CHECK
Most au fait newbie in the world, ever (automated peer review, complex formatting, right up to speed with jargon) CHECK

Blatant old user, passing himself off as a newbie. However, I have a feeling that he is best warned that we know who he is and that we'll be keeping an eye on him, rather than a knee-jerk ban. Most of his recent edits have been of the tedious, stamp-collecting, procedural type, which is quite useful to have someone doing. The problem will come if he starts getting abusive again, or starts to try and throw his weight around. In particular, it would be worth watching out for when his inevitable, lazy, glory-seeking, thoughtless edits end up creating more work for others than he is acually doing. He is clearly a user with an overdeveloped sense of his own abilities and worth and will need to be watched. Perhaps some apology for his previous behaviour and an obvious appreciation of just how antisocial his edits were might go some way to avoiding a straight ban? Anyway, I'll leave the ball in your court. If you think a ban is the best way forward then you have my full support on the sockpuppet justification. Pyrope 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair comments all. Like I said above, he got on my wick because of poor editing, I was never on the receiving end of his arrogant, abusive rants. The irritating thing is that he is 90% reasonable, and 10% arrogant pillock. Unfortunately that pillock component is pretty overowering some times. Like I said above, if you feel that banning is the way forward then I'll back your reasoning. Pyrope 20:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Readro, I'm not going to get into a hole that I can't get myself out of, so I might just as well admit that I am the same person as Davnel03 and Neldav. I admit, I do become a bit of an idiot some of the time, but, do I go around, blanking articles, annoying other users, creating up to 200 other accounts? No, I don't. With Davnel03, I found myself blocked because of several image problems, Neldav I got blocked because you reported me to Yamla. With my Neldav account, is there any bad contributions, and is there any bad contributions in my currentaccount? No. I've also noticed you've reported me again to Yamla. Seems like I'll get blocked again. Daviiid 20:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it in mind that if you block my Daviiid, I will totally fuck up your shitty website with these other accounts that I have. Don't test me you fucking prats. Landev 06:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]