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RE: Northside High School Article

The one saying that I am like the moderator of the NHS Page is kind of a little thing to keep vandaliser's away. I do keep a look out for the NHS article because i am an alumni from there. But I am not imposing ownership on it. The reason I revert alot of the edits make to the NHS page lately is because people have been deleting encyclopedic material. Like the last change that was made they said that it was uncyclopedic material and that it was promotional, i undid that revision. Sorry if there was confusion and please message me if you have any more questions. have a great day! Chrismaster1 18:26, 5 September 2007


In addition, I saw the thing about me on the Wiki thing about vandalism. I posted the bitch slappin thing to get people to quit deleting stuff about the band. So that's why I said what I said to get people to stop deleting the band. By the way, If you happen to run into justtoletyouknow6 i think thats his name, tell him to send me a message. Chrismaster1 18:05, 6 September 2007

RFA Thanks

Merci pour le message de bienvenue!

Hello my friend! Thank you very much for the message of welcomes! I am really happy with this greeting! I promise to do great editions here in the wiki! Thank you!Abumerhy msg 09:55pm sep,25. 2007 (UTC)

Admin Coaching

I was thinking of applying for an admin...on the page, it says "Description=YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE USER" what exactly am i suppose to put there, if i'm nominating myself. Also, skimming through, I didn't see any other self-noms..are they rare, and unlikely to pass, or what is the reason for that? Please reply on my talk Ctjf83 01:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

do you have a response? Ctjf83 05:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
lol, so for my impatience...it's one of my flaws. i was actually looking over the coaching the day i put the first post, and was thinking of doing it. the only thing that stopped me, was the long list of people waiting, so I didn't think the program worked very well. But if you are volunteering to coach, i would be honored to except your assistance...thank you, Ctjf83 05:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
is this going to affect me at all....some IP complaining about his vandalism warning Ctjf83 18:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i've been going through the AFDs, and contributing to get more involved with that aspect of wiki...do u want us to be listed here? Ctjf83 21:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you ever review QACs? I have some, and am anxious to see if they pass...they have been candidates for 11 days Ctjf83 01:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DO you have anything for me to do yet, for my RFA...and if possible, can you review my two QACs, i'm impatiant to see if they pass Ctjf83 01:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I've been very busy and quite stressed out lately. I guarantee you I will have something within the next 24 hours. And I'm not sure what you mean by QAC, do you mean WP:GAC or WP:FAC? Mr.Z-man 01:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, sorry GOOD AC...typo...i have 2, can u review them, so i can see if i got 2 up to that level? Ctjf83 01:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ok, i'll take a look at it, and get it done soon! Ctjf83 00:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I shouldn't even have to ask any questions for this..lol, but what do u want for number 2? "What is your impression of what [the majority of] admins do?" do u mean what they do as far as their "job", or my impression on how well they do stuff? Ctjf83 01:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i answered them all...let me know Ctjf83 01:50, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so what is the next thing we do? Ctjf83 18:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
well?? Ctjf83 17:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ok, have fun! if ur goin on vacation that is...Ctjf83 talk 21:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm ready to get protection reviewed, and get more training Ctjf83 talk 03:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

do you have anything? I'd really like to kick this up a notch Ctjf83 talk 00:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

are you too busy to coach me? I'm not trying to sound rude, but we've been doing this for a month and a half, and have only done one lesson. If you are too busy, it's fine, I can find a new coach, although I'd like to keep you, if we get going more. Ctjf83 talk 06:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
in the fair use questions section, am I just suppose to answer following policy, or can I use my own judgment (which would probably be not the best thing to do, as you probably know) Ctjf83 talk 07:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, I just answered the questions, along policy lines, so whenever your ready to "grade" it Ctjf83 talk 07:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For you

kittens...

You recently closed this AfD as Delete. However, I have found two other articles of the exact same type and just realized that they were made by the same user and are completely original research (!!). Can they be deleted as well? They are: Russian roots of Catherine the Great and Medieval Albanian pedigree of Leka Zogu. Charles 07:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this post, and just nominated those two articles for deletion myself. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medieval Albanian pedigree of Leka Zogu (2nd nomination). Terraxos (talk) 07:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just let the AFD run, things can't be speedy deleted on precedent. Mr.Z-man 17:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 24 support, 3 oppose, and 3 neutral. I promise to work my hardest to improve the Wiki with my new tools.

--Michael Greiner 19:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for supporting my RFA


<font=3> Thanks for your support, my request for adminship passed 62/0/0 yesterday!

I want to thank Snowolf and Dincher for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and since you are reading this, I haven't yet deleted your talk page by accident!). Please let me know if there is anything I can do to be of assistance, and keep an eye out for a little green fish with a mop on the road to an even better encyclopedia.

Thanks again and take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will learn how to use the tools and then see what I can do to help with PUI. Keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Barnstar of Diligence
For your exceptional attention to the AfD backlog on December 14th. Well done. :) Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking

I just noticed some offensive vandalism by User:Dickboobface and then found that you'd indef blocked the account. Just a friendly reminder to check through edit history when indef blocking a vandal to ensure all the edits have been removed (I'm sure you usually do this). Regards, violet/riga (t) 18:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he was actively vandalizing when I blocked, so I was in more of a hurry than usual. Mr.Z-man 18:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing question

I see your active on AfDs, and I'm wondering if there is a template or notice that could be placed on this page's PROD Stephania Bell in response to this diff [1]. I looked at wiki canvassing and didn't see any templates, and I've seen templates in AfDs, but not PRODs before. Watching here. Thanks Mbisanz (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since a PROD can be removed by anyone for any reason, there isn't really anything you can do if someone removes it except to then nominate it for AFD. Mr.Z-man 02:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, works for me Mbisanz (talk) 03:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My steward election

Thank you for supporting my steward election having passed with 72-1-4-99%.--Jusjih (talk) 23:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More blocking

Z, perhaps you should think about blocking user:69.47.110.119 again; he/she is back to his/her old behavior, this time to Blue's Clues, a recent project of mine. This person seems to target Nickelodeon-based articles. I suspect, then, that this editor is a kid who doesn't get it. Anyway, thought I'd bring it to your attention. Perhaps the editors needs a permanent block, eh? Thanks. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Final discussions, you may want to chine in. Secret account 21:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to Weeaboo

You have set up a protected redirect of Weeaboo to The Perry Bible Fellowship. However, the target page makes no reference to the term Weeaboo, nor can it, as no reliable secondary sources can be found that make mention of it. This issue has been brought up in two sections of Talk:The Perry Bible Fellowship. Perhaps this should be a candidate for deletion? Thanks -Verdatum (talk) 20:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its up to you, that was so long ago I don't remember why that was done. It was probably a request on WP:RFPP. Mr.Z-man 00:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

COIN Rollback

I've got a user whose been changing facts in Neopup PAW-20 because he claims the real designer of the weapon told him to. But the things he's changed have been from sourced facts to unsourced facts. I'm wondering if an Admin can roll back his 5 edits or if I should just pull up the last clean version and re-save? I'll watch here Mbisanz (talk) 09:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback shouldn't be used for content dispute matters, even in cases like that (you can't change the edit summary). You should do it manually. Mr.Z-man 23:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I didn't know what the preferred method was. I've filed a report over at COIN, but I know how much traffic that board gets and I've reverted to the last sourced page version for the time being. Mbisanz (talk) 02:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed a thread on this over at COIN, and in my AWB work, I've run across at least a dozen of these articles with questionable notability. Where is the right place to discuss a mass-add of 146 pages from a single EL site that can't be verified for CopyVio or Reliability? I know there is no such thing as a 146 part AfD, but where could a retention debate on this mass add be held? Mbisanz (talk) 05:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From my experience, mass AFDs, unless all the articles are nearly identical and absolute crap, almost always fail. There is a reliable sources noticeboard, you may want to ask there if the articles are redeemable. Looking at the creator'stalk page, there have been complaints raised before, some speedy deletions, and likely COI. The reason a mass AFD would probably fail is that some of the people probably are notable (if they won awards or something) and instead of saying "Keep articles 5, 26, 29, 45, and 122, delete the rest" people will just say to keep them all since they would all need individual appraisal. Mr.Z-man 06:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well I tried the RS noticeboard, and about an hour after I posted, the whole "Citing Wikinews" thing happened, and no one noticed the Cuban Artists thing. Since this has been to COIN and RSN and no one's commented, other than me and I think an IP, does this mean its ok? or is there somewhere else to try? Mbisanz (talk) 06:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, unless you want to go through all of them and pick out the notable ones (those who won awards or did something notable), you might want to try WP:AN. I notice Betacommand already removed the link to the website that was added to every article. Mr.Z-man 07:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since the user has stopped uploading them for now (maybe they ranout), I'll add this to my list of things to do. Mbisanz (talk) 07:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Z-man, can you please help me understand why the Energy Literacy Advocates page was deleted for "Non-notable organization". This organization, while new, has an ex-Governor, an ex-Congressman, and two ex-Senators on their staff. It has been written about in major printed publications, including Forbes, Market Watch, Northern Colorado Business Report, and several others. It is listed with the Colorado Secretary of State here and their entry was a non-biased, Wikipedia friendly article. I'll look for your response here. Thank you 67.176.123.145 (talk) 05:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC) Troy.[reply]

It needs to establish notability with significant references in reliable sources in the article. The only (possibly) significant mention in a reliable source the article had was a dead link to the Ft. Collins Coloradoan. I'm going offline for the night after this, so I will undelete the article now (proposed deletion candidates can be undeleted after any objection). You need to add the sources like Forbes or it may be deleted again. Notability is not inherited, so having notable people on the staff does not automatically confer notability on the organization. Mr.Z-man 05:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Looking for a template

Z-man, is there a template for activities like this [2] [3]? or it this more of a discussion/consensus/WP:OWN thing. I'll discuss my COI issues if need be, but I do have reasons for declaring the things I did. Mbisanz (talk) 14:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing a typo in a discussion is a bit odd, I don't know if it could be considered wrong though. But he should not have removed something from the list with just assumptions without asking you first. I don't think there's a template for it, that would just be something to discuss. Mr.Z-man 00:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

STBotI

Greetings, Mr.Z-man. It appears that STBotI‎ is still tagging images that have FURs, even after it was reported as fixed on AN:I. [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] From what I've seen, the bot has a very low error rate. And there's always the possibility that I'm missing something. Still, it seems problematic to have a bot tagging images incorrectly, even some of the time. However, I didn't report this to AN:I as I'm not sure if the low rate of error would merit their attention. Instead, I thought I'd check with you. Cheers, GentlemanGhost (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I have the permission from the original copyright holder and I will be e-mailing it to the permissions at the "en." Dreamafter 14:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Pages

Hi, it's the user from the help desk. Ummm the pages I can think of at the moment are Tiraera and List of Riddims. Thanks heaps if you can get them for me! TeePee-20.7 (talk) 03:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok, I thought you could send me a link or something to a special page that has the article and it's history. Well I just set an email for you to send. :D thanks! TeePee-20.7 (talk) 08:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing another's comments

Where would I go to suggest a user warning template about not editing other user's comments. In my case, it was just a user being overly helpful, but things like this [11] seem to cross the line of user conduct. MBisanz talk 07:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In that case I would suggest hand writing a message. Giving template warnings to non-newbies is often seen as disrespectful - WP:DTTR. Mr.Z-man 07:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I've read that essay, personally, I prefer getting templates over handwritten messages, since templates tend to be more well-thoughtout and neutraly worded. But I guess for sensitive issues, handwritten is better. Seeing the debate that's engulfed the English monarchy on this topic, I'm thinking I'd do better to steer clear of a hit-and-run message and let the edited user do something if he cares. MBisanz talk 07:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holiday season and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 07:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right

I've seen that same sort of pattern for years on this site. Plausible title with that of a Baptist church with ridiculous content, in this case, simply "rat." The same sorts of things used to come in by the truckload on anonymous IPs back before the site required establishing a username. Also, the username was similar to spambots I've dealt with on other sites; most end in a seemingly random number. That's why I bit hard and that's why I've stayed away for so long. That kind of abuse of the site just chaps my hide, but you're right; I shouldn't have bitten so hard. Won't happen again. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, if there were similar edits I would probably have done about the same, but for only one instance I tend to assume just testing. Mr.Z-man 03:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think most of these accounts really are just testing since they do their thing probably assuming all the while that nothing will happen. When they get called for playing in the article space, they disappear. What I always thought was strange were the sheer number of entries which used to come in such as the one this guy made, as I pointed out. Most turned out to be open proxies and it was generally assumed that they were generated by spambots. You might have had a plausible title like "List of Shakespearian quotes" with a total article content along the lines of "hoo haa." Some folks have nothing better to do, it would seem. Thanks again for setting me straight. PMDrive1061 via --71.102.80.39 (talk) 06:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]