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Category:Gaijin tarento proposed renaming

There's a proposal to rename Category:Gaijin tarento. The proposed new name is Category:Gaikokujin tarento, following up on a similar renaming of the article. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 January 5#Category:Gaijin tarento. Fg2 (talk) 07:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's now been moved. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should not have been, because both article and category should be at the most common name, "gaijin tarento". Please see Talk:Gaikokujin tarento. Jpatokal (talk) 04:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese addressing system

Article(s): Japanese addressing system

Request: Lighten area of sign on right as focus -- Chris (クリス) (talk) 15:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Lightening only on the right makes it look like two unrelated images side by side. To me lightening both sides and the original tend to look that way anyway. To show the address sign, I think one doesn't need much of the buildings, hence the cropped version. Sagredo^{⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄} 21:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think either of the two rightmost ones would be great. I understand there's a value in having readability. Great article to have btw. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar WikiProject

I have a WikiPrpject similar to this one. If you haven't already got a IUser box, could I suggest using this:

this user is part of the WP:JAPAN!

for the code it is:

{{Userbox-r |side-box colour |main box colour |[[Image:Torii of Itsukushima.png]] |this user is part of the [[WP:JAPAN]]!}}

hope you agree, Akira-otomo (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused. The userbox you made links to this project. Additionally, the project you created has all of its goals in common with this project, so I don't see why another project needs to be made. You're welcome to join this project by adding yourself to the participants list. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now, I have deleted the old MY PROJECT thing. sio I would likr to know if we could use this user box (actually, the one I suggested be fore) and put it on the project page as a template! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akira-otomo (talk • contribs) 19:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a similar template: {{User WPJapan}}. -Amake (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

okay. Akira-otomo (talk) 10:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC) XD[reply]

NARUTO!!!!

Akira-otomo

Can I suggest that we include Naruto and all Naruto related articles to WikiProject Japan as Anime/Manga is Japanese - this goes for any other Manga or Anime related Articles too. Thnx! PS. I like using User Boxes!!!! as you can see!

Akira-otomo (talk) 15:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine that you like userboxes, but please don't post notes in them, especially if you use background colors that make it impossible to read half the text. I've changed the background color so the contents are legible.

As for your question about Naruto articles, I'm not sure what you're asking. They are all already part of WP:ANIME. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 20:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sorry - its just fun! any way, I think it should be part of WP:JP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akira-otomo (talk • contribs) 21:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It' great that you're enthusiastic, but I recommend you hang back and just observe things before posting willy-nilly about silly crap like this. There's a certain culture at Wikipedia, and its goals and interests may not align with an 11-year-old anime freak's. People may be more interested in your ideas at WP:ANIME. -Amake (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The good news is that WP:ANIME is already part of the Japan project. Japan is the parent project and anime is a descendant project. Fg2 (talk) 01:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there some policy against posting your age if you are under 18? ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 06:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is, see Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy. Nihonjoe, email me please. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 07:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I emailed you, but you never replied. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 00:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW: New article on The Chrysanthemum and the Sword

I created this article and found sources for it that show that it's certainly an important subject, but I haven't read the book, don't know much about the subject and I think the article is inadequate. (Nevertheless, I think it's an improvement on what we had before -- an unreferenced section in the article on the author, Ruth Benedict). Perhaps some people involved with this project would have an interest in it and in improving it. Noroton (talk) 02:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll list it at Template:Newest Japan-related articles. Fg2 (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A bit OT, if you have a copy of this book, could you please add some quotes to q:Japan, a newly created very stubbish article? Thanks! (I have only Japanese translation version at hand ...) --Aphaia (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced articles

According to this tool, there is over 500 articles that have at least one citation needed/"fact" template in it. I suggest we should get rid of these as much as possible. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 08:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The tool's status is "Snafu" right now. If it's convenient to do so, putting a list in Wikipedia would be helpful. I agree that finding sources for statements that need them is a good goal for WikiProject Japan. Fg2 (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we should make a "Source Patrol" whose only goal is to find at least 2-3 reliable sources for every unsourced article in the project. (^_^) ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable?

Just making sure if KCT is a reliable source. Is it? Also, it would help if anyone here can actually translate these pages for me. « ₣M₣ » 01:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

KCT is a cable provider (television, internet, etc.), similar to Comcast. The second page you link to is a page owned by one of their subscribers, so any reliability had by KCT themselves would not apply. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Towel-Headed Man at AfD (take two)

Towel-Headed Man is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Towel-Headed Man (2nd nomination). Note, the last AFD just closed yesterday, so I think this is highly odd to renominated the day after. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 22:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The second nom has been speedily closed. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 00:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yuki Shimoda

This article is really coming along nicely, but would someone help with the Wikification? Thanks, Chris (クリス) (talk) 19:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance

I was wondering if anyone here knows of any Japanese sites or magazines or whatnot that could provide reliable secondary sources for the characters of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX. Cast interviews, show reviews, bios done by secondary materials. Any help anyone has would be appreciated. The Clawed One (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend asking over at WikiProject anime and manga as they will be more likely to know about that. You can also check WP:ANIME/R and WP:ANIME/M to see if any of the books and magazines listed there are likely to have what you're looking for. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 06:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese television category

Do we have one here? Just want to know. Ominae (talk) 22:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this what you're looking for? ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mean a Wikipedia Japanese television group. Gomen! Should have rephrased the question. Ominae (talk) 07:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean a task force part of WikiProject Japan? Currently there isn't one, but you are welcome to gauge interest and create one if the interest is there. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Ominae (talk) 12:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interac (Japan)

Would you please look at the article and discussion at Interac (Japan)? The sources on the discussion page are in Japanese, so it's difficult to add them as sources in the English wiki. Can you help in any way? --Busy Stubber (talk) 04:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nihongo ? / help

As some here may have noticed, the Nihongo template has recently changed in appearance, and more recently changed back. Briefly, Nihonjoe changed it, no doubt with the best of intentions. First reactions weren't good. My own first reaction was monosyllabic and crude; not wanting to ruin a beautiful friendship with Joe, I expressed it otherwise when I came to write it down; but anyway I took my sledgehammer to the big red padlock and changed the template back. Discussion here. -- Hoary (talk) 10:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help on Security Police (Japan) article

I've done it. Can someone familiar with the division check it and see if anything else can be added. References are welcome! Ominae (talk) 12:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of Japanese television task force

I'm wondering if anyone supports or opposes the idea of WikiProject Japan team having a task force dedicated to live action Japanese TV. It can drama, action shows, talk shows or even entertainment. I'm thinking of this like the WikiProject British TV shows IIRC. Need at least 4-5 to support it. Ominae (talk) 12:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I neither support nor oppose; I'm just blank. (To me, live action Japanese TV runs the gamut from irritating to soporific.) But I'm interested by the military-sounding name. Will members carry small arms and live ammo? As a possible bystander, should I wear kevlar? -- Hoary (talk) 15:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! I see. Nah, it's a group that would take care of articles that relate to Japanese TV, particularly live-action and reality ones... Ominae (talk) 01:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be interested in working with it. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you mean by "live action" -- does that mean live actors (not anime)? I do lots of articles on jidaigeki and actors and actresses. Next, what are the benefits of a task force? I have my own kevlar... Fg2 (talk)

Live actors. This proposed task force would include shows that are not tokus (Wikipedia Tokusatsu takes care of that) and anime obviously (Wikiproject Anime and Manga IIRC).

Benefits? Well.... it'd be like any other Wikipedia History Japan task force. Primarily to create and check on Japan television-related articles. Ominae (talk) 22:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting semi-protection of Hiroshima

The article has had 44 revisions, including vandalism and reversion of it, since January 9. See this history difference. Time to semi-protect it? Fg2 (talk) 21:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should have been protected ages ago - request made. John Smith's (talk) 21:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Fg2 (talk) 10:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Basic question re: romanisations

Hello, wasn't sure where else to ask this. When special characters appear in a word, such as the Ō in Ōbaku, should it always appear after the first use, or is it acceptable to use Obaku afterwards? Random name (talk) 12:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless the word is regularly used in English without the macrons (eg. Kyoto, jujitsu, etc — that is, the article title doesn't used them either), it would be good practice to always use the macron. Jpatokal (talk) 13:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for that! Random name (talk) 17:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Net cafe refugees

Hi, I expect some of you have already heard of this, but this is a new hot topic in Japan. I would like help for:

Categorization of this article
And does anyone know that word that means "difference society", I thought it was sakaku shakai, but I can't find kanji matching this.

Thanks! -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I put the article in Category:Japanese society. You might be thinking of kakusa shakai ja:格差社会. Fg2 (talk) 22:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks! Next I'm thinking about making an article about the kakusa shakai, and also one about Japan's temporary worker temp agencies (which the Japanese page has ample information on). -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Makiko Kuno

I'm trying to clean this up, but I simply don't know where some of these sentences are going. Please help! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken a stab at the lead paragraph. See how you like it. Fg2 (talk) 05:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

virus or coding glitch

Does List of jōyō kanji lock up anyone else's internet when you try to open it? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My computer does ok (but it's slow) with IE7 and Firefox 2. The table is really big; wonder if it's a memory shortage? Fg2 (talk) 05:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A totally different possibility is that it could be related to the new parser. See if anything relevant has been reported on meta:Talk:Migration_to_the_new_preprocessor. Fg2 (talk) 11:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page loads just fine for me. It takes a few seconds since it's over 200K in size, but ither than taking slightly longer than most pages, I see no performance or other issues when loading the page. I suggest clearing your cache and seeing if that helps. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karasawa Genba

Please help clean this up if you are familiar with the historicity of this person. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday, I added all articles on historical people created by this user (now known as User:Exiled Ambition) to the Cleanup tasks list. There's room for a lot of help. Fg2 (talk) 03:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well for one, while the article linked to as a source seems to be legit (despite the dodgy looking html), there is no mention in it of the historical person in question... TomorrowTime (talk) 10:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This has now been put up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karasawa Genba, please vote. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Free pictures of Japanese-American emergency camp

According to Japan Probe, the US Library of Congress released quite a lot of images to the public domain, including some WWII Japanese-American “emergency relocation” camp ones. They are found in a Flickr account. Maybe some of them could be uploaded for certain articles, however I am not very adept at distinguishing which would be useful and which would not. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 02:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this should work. At first I was kind of sketchy about the "No known copyright restrictions" tag, but try the file info tool for the commons and it also shows that no copyright vio and attaches a variety of (presumably correct) free use license tags. I would recommend using that tool when you do upload them, as they have significant information attached to them. U.S. Government work is always a great candidate for Wikipedia pictures, and as far as I understand, these are PD and fit the bill perfectly. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about being selective about which pictures are uploaded, because you often don't know where or how a particular image might be used. Just upload them all into Commons, list them in a gallery under the name of the most related article (Japanese American internment is probably a good name) and add a Commons link to that article linking to the image gallery. That will make the images easily accessible to anyone who would like to look at them and hopefully use them. Cla68 (talk) 23:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as a Commons admin; if they are under a free license, just upload them all and do what Cla68 said. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 23:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, it will take some time, but will be worth it. I guess all images released by that account would be worth, but so far all these fit a single category nicely. Thanks for the feedback. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 06:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Internment images are in Commons:Category:Japanese American internment and its subcategories. There's no article (gallery) in that category.

If there are a lot of files, you might be interested in this: Commons has a very useful tool called Commonist for uploading a lot of files from your local disk all at once. It's a Java program for Linux, Mac, Windows. You can put all of them in one or more categories such as Commons:Category:Japanese American internment or its subcategories and select the license once for all the photos. You can additionally put individual images in other categories, add descriptions to individual images and/or in common to all of them, and it constructs a gallery automatically in your user space. You can then copy the gallery to an article with almost no work. You could post the gallery as Commons:Japanese American internment; that name is currently unused. For more information about Commonist, see Commons:Commons:Tools/Commonist. Fg2 (talk) 06:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Onsens?

Category:Onsen has been removed and replaced with Category:Onsens. Does anyone have information on this? Fg2 (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently was listed as a candidate for speedy renaming by User:Snocrates a few days back: [1]. cab (talk) 10:37, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Does anyone know of any discussion? Fg2 (talk) 10:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find anything. It appears to have been speedied [2], I would suppose because of the following speedy renaming rule: 3. Conversions from singular to plural, or back (such as, Steamship → Steamships). It went unchallenged for the proscribed two days: [3], and was then apparently renamed.

I would say this was a good faith rename, but AFAIK the rule for Japanese word pluralisation was no added 's', as evident also in the onsen article itself. Or am I mistaken? TomorrowTime (talk) 12:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I take onsen to be both singular and plural without an "s" so that's why I'm wondering. Thanks for the research! Fg2 (talk) 12:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same here. Is there a Wiki style guideline regarding this? TomorrowTime (talk) 12:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Pluralization. Fg2 (talk) 12:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OED lists "onsen" and states "plural unchanged" (meaning don't add an "s" to make it plural). It gives examples of the plural with no "s." Fg2 (talk) 12:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would be for speedy renaming it back per the entry in OED. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 15:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should have mentioned that M-W online says the word is not in the dictionary. Fg2 (talk) 22:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Onsen or onsens? ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 22:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Onsen. Doesn't have a singular, doesn't have a plural, doesn't have an entry at all. Sometimes M-W tells you a word is in the dictionary, but not the online dictionary (try ronin); for onsen it doesn't even say that. Fg2 (talk) 22:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, M-W does seem to lag behind Oxford. Based on Oxford, I'd support a speedy rename back to the correct term. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've submitted the request for speedy renaming to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy. Fg2 (talk) 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, OED provides two alternative plural forms. One is "unchanged"; the other is made by adding an "-s". Words in English are usually pluralized by adding an "s", so most users would intuitively recognise "onsens" as the plural of "onsen". Snocrates 06:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I missed the -s yesterday, but it is clearly there. The examples don't use it, though. Fg2 (talk) 10:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion has now been moved from a speedy to a full CFD, and can be found at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 January 30#Category:Onsens. Jpatokal (talk) 05:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The category has been returned to its original "onsen." Fg2 (talk) 20:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can I cite references for a 1980s Japanese recording artist?

The article for Kumi Miyasato was recently deleted. The reason given was no stated relevence. I re-created the article and modified the language to assert relevence. I also created a talk page for the article and made a case for her relevence. I was told to cite a few sources in Japanese media that covered her. I don't speak Japanese and have no access to any of the print media (though I do have lists of print media that covered her - as well as lists of public appearances and radio appearances). I have copies of some video interviews, but they come from YouTube. I can't translate them, anyway. What should I do? Tuxedo Mark (talk) 03:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have the list of print media that covered her, you can add them in a "References" section. If the video interviews are notable (I mean, they have been done in reliable sources) you can use the {{cite video}} template (although you will need to offer some interview data, like the title, program, date, etc, so that anyone can verify that). Since they come from YouTube, they are likely copyvios. However, most times users uploading there also give the name of the program featuring the artist, date and channel or video name. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 04:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you can object deletions stating in the talk page that the Japanese Wikipedia has an article about her that hasn't been deleted. While their notability guidelines may differ, it proves that she is actually known in Japan, giving you some more time to find more references. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

merger of Takarazuka Revue/Takarazuka Theater

This has been tagged for several months, with only support for the merger, will someone knowledgeable perform it? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the merger tag was just removed, but the articles weren't merged as per the discussion. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like they were merged. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done

I redirected Takarazuka Theater to the earlier article on Takarazuka Revue and left a note at User talk:Relyna85, the talk page of the person who created the Takarazuka Theater, inviting him or her to edit the article. Especially if Theater had content that's not in Revue, Relyna85 can put that in without licensing considerations. If someone knows how to copy content from one article to another and meet the licensing requirements, that would be helpful too. Fg2 (talk) 05:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Takarazuka Theater was Relyna85's only contribution. Fg2 (talk) 05:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I gather that from WP:MERGE, the only licensing consideration is that you put in your edit summary something like 'merging from Merged article name', and I have done so. -Malkinann (talk) 08:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I don't know all the licensing rules so I tend to err on the side of caution. Fg2 (talk) 09:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New license template

After reading the copyright law of Japan, I have given rise to a new license template: Template:PD-Japan-exempt. This is mostly for images created based on Japanese law, including local and national laws. These include national and prefectural symbols, so far. I suggest to use this template here for some of our prefectural symbols, and if you feel like doing Commons tagging, the template is there also. Any and all corrections to the template are welcome. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 07:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to sound discouraging or anything, but are you confident in interpretation of the law? For one thing, as I understand, the Japanese copyright law doesn't define public domain, and consequently there is no notion of public domain in Japan. Additionally, Article 13 basically says the Constitution of Japan (or any other laws and their translations) is not subject to copyright; I can't think of any images that are exempted by this clause. Just thoughts. -- Taku (talk) 11:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like what's we are looking for.

Article 32. (1) It shall be permissible to make quotations from a work already made public, provided that their making is compatible with fair practice and their extent does not exceed that justified by purposes such as news reporting, criticism or research.

(2) It shall also be permissible for the press or other periodicals to reproduce informatory, investigatory or statistical data, reports and other works of similar character which have been prepared by organs of the State or local public entities or independent administrative organs for the purpose of public information and which have been made public under their authorship, provided that the reproduction thereof is not expressly prohibited.

The problem is Wikipedia prefers not to use fair use images. (This is something I don't necessarily agree with, though.) -- Taku (talk) 11:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taku, that license is designed for images derived from actual law, or based on laws. This page was what this license is intended for. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 15:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. That example explained perfectly its intended use. I just couldn't image laws or such may contain images. Also, rewording makes its intent clearer. Thanks. -- Taku (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reworded the template a bit and I hope this can be very clear now. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like the template. I think it will prove very useful. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 05:37, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the prefecture flags me or other users have done use the symbol of each prefecture. I personally been coming up with websites showing each prefecture flag and how to draw them. Nihonjoe, with your permission, I wish to make a subpage showing my progress in finding these pages. I do not know what the JIS-Z colors are, or how to find them, but this can be on our way to reduce fair use but also get some good images for the project. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you need my permission to do that, but rather input from a lot of different WP:JA members. Or, you can just be bold and do it. (^_^) ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 05:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I took your hint and started on it on my own: User:Zscout370/jpmon. Nagano and Shiga prefectures have the format of what I am looking for in links, so everyone else can use those pages as examples. I still have some links saved in my bookmarks folder. Everyone in WP:JA is welcome to add to it. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed renaming

I have suggested that Late Tokugawa shogunate be moved (renamed) to Bakumatsu period. Please contribute any comments or opinions you may have at Talk:Late Tokugawa shogunate#Requested move. Thank you. LordAmeth (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sengoku generals

Who merits an encyclopedia article? That's a question numerous Wikipedia discussions have addressed. The deletion discussion of the article Karasawa Genba leads to a more specific question: Which Sengoku generals should have articles about them? Is the only criterion the existence of external references? Or even with external references, are some noteworthy and others not? Can we draw up any general guidance? Can we prepare a ready-made answer to the charge that usually arises in deletion discussions, "non-notable"? Fg2 (talk) 02:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that if they meet the basic requirements for WP:BIO, they should have their own article. Otherwise, perhaps a general (no pun intended) article should be created to hold all of the generals not notable enough for their own article. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 06:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Biographies page you linked to sets out the basic guidelines. It in turn has sections for politicians, diplomats, ambassadors, creative professionals, athletes, entertainers, and pornographic actors. So I'm wondering what a section would say if we wrote one for sengoku generals. Do daimyo deserve articles? Do their retainers? Would a criterion such as kokudaka or holding a gun (郡) be worthwhile? Is a passing praise for valor in a chronicle sufficient, or would we need more substantive information?

Here's the section on politicians. It's one place we could start, and then try modifying it:

Politicians who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature.
Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.
Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such a person may be notable for other reasons besides their political careers alone.

Fg2 (talk) 11:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Administrative divisions of Japan

Everyone with an interest in Template:Administrative divisions of Japan: I've posted a question at Template talk:Administrative divisions of Japan#Which entities belong at each level? and am looking for input before editing the template. Fg2 (talk) 10:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral districts

An editor has created the article Kanagawa's 11th district and the Category:Parliamentary districts of the Diet of Japan. If anyone wants to suggest other naming, it'll be simplest to change before we get hundreds of articles (which we eventually should, perhaps). Fg2 (talk) 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On Japanese Religion

The opinion has been expressed that the sources on the religion section of the overall/general Japan article are not credible enough, not reliable/verifiable enough. If better sources are not found ASAP, drastic changes will be made to that section, removing discussion of the fact that while the vast majority of Japanese are officially counted by Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples both as belonging to those institutions, most Japanese when asked directly will claim to not be religious. This is a crucial aspect of religion in modern Japan.

Can anyone please please please help!? Surely someone out there must be a Religions of Japan scholar, with proper serious professional academic sources? LordAmeth (talk) 13:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SS Kiche Maru

Trying to figure out the Japanese name of this ship which sank in 1912 in order to find more sources, because there's literally none in English (probably because the contemporary reporting screwed up the name). My cursory investigation turned up a ship that sank on the same date and caused a similarly large number of deaths; however, the name of that ship was 梅ヶ香丸. Please comment at Talk:SS Kiche Maru if you have any idea. Thanks! cab (talk) 02:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No entry at ja:海難事故. The only listing for 1912 is Titanic. The associated ja:Category:海難事故 has only two in the ki section; neither matches this. I didn't see anything in ja:吹雪 (春雨型駆逐艦) (Fubuki) and I don't see a Tachibana in ja:Category:日本の駆逐艦 (destroyers). Sorry Fg2 (talk) 07:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find anything relevant in ja:1912年. Fg2 (talk) 07:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EB has no entry for "Kiche"; Google Scholar for "Kiche Maru" has nothing relevant. Looked for "Kichi" in various searches (e.g. Kichi 1912) without success. Fg2 (talk) 08:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shima Uta

This article is no longer a stub. It still needs work.Berkeleysappho (talk) 05:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]