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Swami Vipulananda

Updated DYK query On 16 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Swami Vipulananda, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Elkman (Elkspeak) 17:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reconciliation

Are you a founder of this-Wikipedia:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation? A definite worthy goal. I stumbled upon it because I noticed the ANI and SSP case going on. How have things been going? No offense intended, but it seems to me that several of our Sri Lankan editors use en.wiki to fight the real Sri Lankan civil war in the virtual realm. Rlevse 02:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's just use your talk page. I have a watch set. You were obviously referring to Lahiru_k. It's too bad there are so many sockpuppets connected to that account if he/she was trying to reconcile, but that also is violation of wiki policy. The SSP clearly shows collusion and vote stacking. I also thought it odd that Snowolf4 claimed you were called a sock; whereas Sumoeagle179 did initially tag you, he also quickly reverted it once he discovered the error. I'm sure it was an honest mistake. Moving on to the future, I have to agree that many of the SL editors are headed to a community ban. But, it has to get reported because the admins can't watch every single article and few, if any, of them are experts on SL issues. Let me know if you need anything. Rlevse 10:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know

Updated DYK query On 17 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Negombo Tamils , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Allen3 talk 23:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving pictures

Hi Taprobanus. The easiest way to move pictures is to use Magnus Manske's "move to commons helper", which is accessible here: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php. The language code for Tamil is ta. Once the file's been moved to commons, you can use it on the English wikipedia, and on all other wikimedia projects. -- Arvind 21:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know

Updated DYK query On 22 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Arumuga Navalar , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Allen3 talk 14:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Your DYK nomination for American Ceylon Mission‎ looks good. As far as actually making it to the main page is concerned, the DYK updates are generally done in the order in which the articles are created. I submitted Barn Bluff (Red Wing, Minnesota) on October 27 and it hasn't gone all the way through the queue yet, but it's likely to go through tomorrow sometime. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query On November 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article American Ceylon Mission, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thanks Taprobanus! Very well done. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jaffna Kingdom

Interesting bit of information. No, my sources do not mention any such details. Regarding a Ganga Kingdom connection, we know South Karnataka came under the Cholas for about a century during which time some Ganga descendents may have taken a "Chola identity" under the new overlords. Regarding connections to the Vijayanagara Empire, I believe that during the rule of Devaraya II (1425-1450), tributes were extracted from the island kingdom. But I dont have any more info than this. Good luck with the article.Dineshkannambadi 21:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no wiki specific template for the Kings info box. I took it from somewhere (dont recall) and modified it to suit my purpose. Just type Template:Western Ganga Kings Infobox in the search field and go to the template file. Edit this page-->Copy and Paste it to a different file name and use it appropriately for your needs.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you mean Eastern Gangas of Kalinga. I will take a look as soon as possible.thanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 17:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some comments for now in the article's talk page. Will look in more carefully later this week.thanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 18:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 03:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Though I mentioned earlier its important to cite often, I did not mean at the end of very sentence. That would be sort of an overkill. Just make it reasonably often, at the right points, so that people wont tag the article. Currently it looks over crowded with citations. Sorry if I did not clarify this earlier. thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was just comparing to some Karnataka FA's where I have also cited quite often but not needed for every sentence, unless its a "power" sentence. One gets a feel for it as one goes along. Under any circumstance, removing a few citations is easier than adding new ones. Yes, if you are awaiting secondary book source citations, thats good.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please check and make sure I did not change the intended meaning during copy edits to History section.thanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 01:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will take a look later this week at the other sections.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 03:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have been busy with other articles in the last 3 weeks. Will get back to yours next week and take a closer look at the sections that I have not touched so far.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You pretty well gutted the Chandrabhanu article. Could you please explain why? Corvus cornixtalk 02:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, you gave a good reason, so I'll revert myself. Thanks for your answer. Corvus cornixtalk 02:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: Jaffna Kingdom

I just had a quick look. The article seems very well-written. Will give a detailed review later. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 04:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very good, in fact. I'll have a detailed read over the weekend, but well done. -- Arvind (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to help, can you tell me what you would like researched or looked at? Bakaman 02:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I watchlisted it. Perhaps you may want to look at this book? which may have a mention of the flag.Bakaman 20:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Baka is right - Rajanayagam definitely discusses the flag and their connection with the Gangas in some detail. The Eastern Ganga rulers most certainly did have a couchant bull facing to the left as their insignia, and there has been some speculation in the academic literature about whether the Arya Chakravarti dynasty borrowed this symbol from them. I have Rajanayagam's book somewhere, but I've recently moved house and I haven't finished unpacking yet so I'm not quite sure where it is. I'll try to see if I can find it if you don't have access to it. I'm also quite sure I've read an article in a Sri Lankan journal which says that the crest was borrowed by the Jaffna rulers from the Eastern Gangas - if need be, I will try looking for it on my next visit to the British Library in mid January. -- Arvind (talk) 02:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


DYK

Updated DYK query On 28 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vannimai, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Royalbroil 23:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 13 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Portuguese conquest of Jaffna Kingdom, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Royalbroil 14:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Satavahana coin

Not sure. Interesting stuff though. From the books I have read, from ~400AD are the earliest coins with clear Kannada legends (Kadamba coins now in the Prince of Wales Mueseum, Mumbai). In fact as far as I know, Prakrit was their language of administration though it was common to find Telugu and Kannada words in their inscriptions.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am always on the look out for such new information. If I find anything, I will let you know.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to say that American Ceylon Mission has failed in GAC. My primary concerns:

  • What is ACM is not clear throughout the article: organization (officially) or a group of people termed by others as ACM???
  • Broad in coverage???
  • Focussed???

American Ceylon Mission is just the 3rd article, i reviewed so i may be wrong. You are welcome to seek Wikipedia:Good article reassessment if you feel. Regards.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you learn a lesson with each attempt. The article is better for it anyway :)) Taprobanus (talk) 15:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


GA pass

Aryacakravarti dynasty, an article you nominated for good article status, has passed, and is now a good article. Thank you for your patience. You can help reduce the waiting time - review an article today! nedragehtnistercesruodeirubew 20:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Belated congratulations! --Aadal (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Al-Masudi in Jaffna 9th -10th century

Hi there Taprobanus. I wanted to just share some info I found with you. There is research by the noted historian and scholar H.W. Tambiah which references the accounts of the traveller Al-Masudi in the tenth century to Jaffna (912 CE). He witnessed a funeral of a Tamil which conforms to the descriptions of funerals for Tamil Hindu kings during the classical Tamil period of Sangam literature, specifically described in the Purananuru (200BCE - 100 CE), as referenced by S.Vaiyapuri Pillai, Tamilar Panpatu, p. 52. Could you look into this info, and see where and how to include this? Thanks. Wubbabubba (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have the Al Masudi's accounts translated into English that is directly available to corroborates what S. Vaiyapuri Pillai is saying ? Taprobanus (talk) 15:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The appendix here mentions commentary by Dr. S.A. Imam of the University of Ceylon on the extract from Masudi’s Mural al Dhahab I, 6 1-2, (Paris Edition). There is a translated extract from Masudi’s Muruj al Dhahab I, 61-2, Paris edition just below in Appendix 2. Tambiah highlights that these Tamil customs are consistent with customs mentioned in the Purananuru that are highlighted by S. Vaiyapuri Pillai in his book Tamilar Panpatu .Wubbabubba (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will try include this information somehow. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 16:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Is a general wiki terminology for those links that add value to the article. For instance, if you wrote, "the main agricultural product of north-east Sri Lanka is a native form of mango called abcdxyz, which is not grown anywhere else in the world"... the link to product does not offer the reader any more information and is basically unnecessary, but the link to abcdxyz does offer a lot of information he would like to read about.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 20:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes! The Seuna kings (950-1320), it is argued by many historians, were of Kannada stock. The prevalence of Kannada in Maharashtra during medieval times is known even from Kavirajamarga which claims Kannada was popular between the Godavari and Kaveri. The Godavari river bisects Maharashtra into halves, going east-west. In fact, some scholars do not consider Marathi an Aryan language, rather one of the Pancha dravida. But this is controversial ofcourse.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, How are you? :-) I'm working with this article on A. V. Meiyappan. My aim to get it featured on the Main Page on the anniversary of AVM's 101st birthday. It would be great if you could help. The Filmography' section is the only one remaining.. The rest is almost over. Thanks -RavichandarMy coffee shop 17:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Srirangam's page

I removed Srirangam's gross personal attacks on other editors. Your advise to him is sagely, so I left it alone.. even if passers-by dont make sense of it.. I suppose Srirangam will be able to. Thanks. Sarvagnya 00:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


migamuwa and silapam

Hi,
what would you like to be sourced? The fact that these places do indeed carry these names, or the fact that the names are etymologically unrelated? Jasy jatere (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi back!

Ehm, actually, I was never gone ... just didn't invest a lot of time into WP during the last months. And I'm not sure if I will. But what's going on there in the Place Names article is just too interesting to let it go by unnoticed and uncommented ... However, I grow tired increasingly quickly now when I have to deal with - excuse my French - boneheads who are dedicated to one-way-thinking and "irrational reasoning". That's why I try to keep a low profile on WP now. But I'm always willing to put in my knowledge and opinions. Well, we'll see ... Anyway, thanks a lot for your "re-welcome". You may have inspired me. Feels good to be appreciated. So, I'll see you around! Take care, Krankman (talk) 21:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ē ē ḻ

The "e" with macrons can be found in the special characters row below the edit box

Characters: Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń Ó ó Ŕ ŕ Ś ś Ú ú Ý ý Ź ź À à È è Ì ì Ò ò Ù ù Â â Ĉ ĉ Ê ê Ĝ ĝ Ĥ ĥ Î î Ĵ ĵ Ô ô Ŝ ŝ Û û Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ Ä ä Ë ë Ï ï Ö ö Ü ü Ÿ ÿ ß Ã ã Ẽ ẽ Ĩ ĩ Ñ ñ Õ õ Ũ ũ Ỹ ỹ Ç ç Ģ ģ Ķ ķ Ļ ļ Ņ ņ Ŗ ŗ Ş ş Ţ ţ Đ đ Ů ů Ǎ ǎ Č č Ď ď Ě ě Ǐ ǐ Ľ ľ Ň ň Ǒ ǒ Ř ř Š š Ť ť Ǔ ǔ Ž ž Ā ā Ē ē <== here

As for ழ/ZH, that's more difficult, you may have to do a copy&paste from ḻa

Or were you looking for some kind of keyboard shortcut? Jasy jatere (talk) 08:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I notice I only commented on ழ. You might also be interested in ள், which is the retroflex l properly speaking.

You can find the real retroflex l's also in the special char section under the edit window

IAST retroflex l is approx second row in Characers ļ

IPA retroflex l is under IPA: ɭ Jasy jatere (talk) 08:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ஈழத் தமிழர், ēḻath thamiḻar is a mix of different systems, and correct in neither
* IPA: iːʐat̪ t̪amiʐar (although ʐ depends on the dialect, and is probably not appropriate for Sri Lanka, where ɭ might be better)
* IAST: īḻat tamiḻar (OK for all regions)
* laymen's approximation: eelath thamilar
I think you should go for IAST
sorry, I made a mistake last time wrt ஈ, it must be ī, not ē. English vowel pronunciation is very misleading when it comes to IPA and IAST Jasy jatere (talk) 08:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI- Your attention and help is requested .You are receiving this note as you are the member of the project -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 09:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok

That's fine, but I think using the word "believed" is confusing and is a weasel. Wubbabubba (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Pattana"

You said at Talk:Sri Lankan place name etymology/archive#Please cite that Indrapala in a footnote at p. 375 of his 2007 book says that both "pattana" and "malai" were words derived from Dravidian languages. My recollection is also that he mentions both. Bodhi Dhana, however, claims that Indrapala says nothing about "pattana." If you have the book handy, could you please check and add an appropriate quote to the discussion at Talk:Sri Lankan place name etymology#Indrapala (2007). Thanks. -- Arvind (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have the book at home, will check one more time and get back to you in 24 hours. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 17:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The lead sentence in the note on page 375 says that there are Dravidian language words (mark the plural) in early Pali renditions of local place names. Then he mentions Malai then he mentions Pattana. These are the only two place name endings that is mentioned in the note. If he just said Dravidian language word then it can only mean Malai, because he said words it means both Malai and Pattana. I see a WP:POINT violation in the counter argument. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hi. I've been addressing copyright concerns at the above article, listed at the copyright problems board on June 3rd. Attempting to trace back where problematic material entered the article, I find this edit of yours from March 7, which seems to have introduced some of the text. It may be that you were restoring text that had been in the article earlier. Your edit summary doesn't indicate so, so I can't be sure, and I did not find anything in a minute of two of investigation. Because of that, just in case, I thought I'd better point out that this material seems to include substantial duplication from this source. I can't find anything at that source noting its release into public domain or allowing its reuse under a license compatible with GFDL. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or text that is not explicitly released from other web sites or printed material. We can use external websites as a source of information, of course, but not as a source of sentences.

Rather than remove the material altogether, I have attempted to revise it to address those copyright concerns. Of course, you're welcome to alter or add to that, but please be careful that your edits do not come too close to the original.

If it should happen that you were restoring an earlier edit, please let me know so that I can point out this problem to the original contributor.

Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just noted that it seems that the other material, here and here, was also added by you. As you also added citations for that, here, as well as adding citations for the earlier additions (here), I suspect that you might simply not have realized that citations are insufficient legal protection for duplicating text. When material is duplicated from a source, we must use a quotation format to show it is verbatim. But even if that material had been in quotation marks, it would have exceeded fair use allowance. You can read more about that here, if you'd like. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks will do Taprobanus (talk) 20:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]