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Nailin' Paylin

Re this edit: Ya think maybe preparing for the "roll" was a Freudian slip? ;-) --Evb-wiki (talk) 15:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please have a look at Gerry Ritz? I've twice removed recent additions that seem biased and promotional to me and been reverted. I'd appreciate a third opinion. Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 19:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! DoubleBlue (Talk) 19:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CfD nomination of Category:SRC network shows

I have nominated Category:SRC network shows (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Télévision de Radio-Canada network shows (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. ViperSnake151 20:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slieve Bloom county page

Sorry about the page, I will do my best to make it proper, I'm not sure what happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonzostar (talkcontribs) 18:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OCLC

Hi Bearcat. Just inviting your input to a discussion I have opened at Talk:Online_Computer_Library_Center#Article_title reviewing this change of yours title=Online_Computer_Library_Center&diff=183079299&oldid=182811236. Cheers. Nurg (talk) 05:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Little context in Cobb’s Curve

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Can you please check the comment on this page, Talk:British Columbia Coast. IMHO, a whole section should be re-written or put into wikiquotes. I noticed you had done some revisions and corrections on the article page. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 21:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

I appreciated your comments on the Radio Category discussion...BTW, You win the award for the longest UserTalk page I have seen!

  • GLBT or LGBT? I thought GLBT was "more" standard? Any background on why it is a redirect here? I am also not seeing a place for "Allies" either generally or within the project. New Category:LGBT Allies? Some very notable people are "supportive", but not gay...
  • UserBox - Has anyone already made a "Straight, but not narrow" userbox? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjquin id (talkcontribs) 02:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT musicians from Australia

Hi, Bearcat! Part of the discussion on WT:LGBT that you participated in was to move away from the triple-categorization of "LGBT", occupation, and location. Could we move the people in Category:LGBT musicians from Australia into L, G, B, and T specific cats? As in Category:Lesbian musicians, Category:Gay musicians, Category:Bisexual musicians, or Category:Transgender and transsexual musicians? And put them in Category:LGBT people from Australia? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent change to Timmins

I saw your removal of the retail content in Timmins, I have been pondering how to handle that for a little while, I agree that the retail stores in a city do not belong in an encyclopedia. I am not sure how to handle the Shopping section in Thompson, Manitoba though. "Thompson is home to western Canada's first fully enclosed shopping centre, the Thompson Plaza" maybe should be there...but the rest not so much.--Kelapstick (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Douglas Coupland

Greetings, Bearcat. Many thanks for the message... and for cleaning up my mess. I had no idea. I guess I'm still getting up to speed. Kind regards, Victoriagirl (talk) 22:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oops

I moved it again, without checking that message. I am not sure, I think some of the more well known deaths perhaps deserve an article? hmm maybe if there is some form of legacy.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 07:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding 99.234.27.35

I personally believe that 99.234.27.35 is not in any way connected with Dongwong/Prckay. Check out the Viva article and 99.234.27.35 and AlexRampaul edited with minutes of each other, and for one thing, 99.234.27.35. Dongwong never edits articles that aren't related to A or the Pontaic Montana and 99.234.27.35 has edit articles such as the Toronto Transit Commission and Dongwong keeps on stating his "favourite" television station is A Ottawa. Emarsee (TalkContribs) 00:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Talk page on Andrei Brennan

Dear Bearcat,

My name is [name edited]. On the discussion page regarding Andrei Brennan, my brother-in-law (Hromek2000) is under the misguided assumption that I am a user named "Skwing". While I do know Andrei Brennan personally, I have not, and never will, edit his page. I will admit to reading the page, but that is as far as my involvement goes. I don't care enough about Andrei to bother editing his page and I didn't even know that my name had been brought up in this until I was awakened in bed by a rather aggressive phone call. There was nothing I could do to convince Hromek2000 that I am not this person. I am not Skwing and have no clue who Skwing is. I was asleep with my computer off when Skwing was editing on the page. Despite this, there are several posts in the discussion section there that mention my full name, my occupation and the city I live in, not to mention the fact that they beyond name calling and border on libel. As all of these posts are predicated on the false belief that I have been vandalizing the page in question, please remove, permanently, any and all references to me from the discussion page. I consider it a personal safety issue to have my name put out there like that. I was going to erase the entries myself, but I am not sure if it is possible to remove them permanently. Hromek2000 can talk all he wants about Skwing, just as long as he doesn't talk about me. I don't have a username as I am not a regular Wikipedia user, so I will check back here to see if there is any message that you would like me to reply to.

Sincerely, [name edited] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.110.216.128 (talk) 19:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I'm not going to play a tug-of-war game to decide whose claims are credible and whose aren't in this dispute. I've removed all personal names from the talk page in question, but that's as far as I'm going to go unless somebody steps further out of line than they already have. Bearcat (talk) 19:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Bearcat. This is "name edited". I suppose I have to be happy with at least having my name removed. I am still concerned that there is enough context in the posts to figure out who I am, but at least it would take a little work. Is there any way to definitively prove that I am not Skwing? Is it possible to tell what city, or even province, the posts are being made from? I doubt that they are from my hometown as Andrei knows very few people here. If it could be demonstrated unequivocally that the posts originated somewhere else, maybe Hromek2000 would accept his error and leave us alone. Wikipedia is not the only place they have communicated with my wife and I, and the tone used is more like the posts where he calls me names, rather than the ones where he is conciliatory to you. This is wearing us out.

It is my desire to see these posts completely removed. I am a little frustrated to have my name brought into this when I have literally done nothing. I thought one of the central ideas of Wikipedia is verifiability, so I would hope that unfounded and completely unverifiable accusations would be deleted summarily. These are simply personal attacks based on lies. I can understand why Andrei is angry with the anonymous, unverified posts and deletions by Skwing (who obviously knows him well), as I am having to deal with the same issue. The only difference is I have correctly identified my attacker. Please reconsider my request to completely delete the posts. I have not "stepped out of line" in the first place, so going "further" is not really a risk from me. There has to be some way to demonstrate I am not Skwing (during some of the posts Nov. 13-16, I was out of town coaching volleyball, didn't have computer access, and had to supervise 15 adolescents. I was not leaving them alone to sneak off to an internet cafe in Southern Saskatchewan in order to post about Andrei. I have literally hundreds of real life, non-internet witnesses that could verify this). Block me if you feel it is warranted, but please find a way to demonstrate to Hromek2000 that I did not do what he is accusing me of. I want the truth to be known.

Anyways, sorry to bother you with what has become a very twisted family squabble. I appreciate the time you have already dedicated to this. It is more than you should have had to. If there is no more that can be done, thank you for at least taking my name off the posts. I will limit any editing I do to articles on Vimy Ridge and diffraction of waves (my two modest contributions thus far). Best regards, K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.110.216.128 (talk) 00:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page in question will also be deleted within a couple more hours. I'm only leaving it in place temporarily until I can be sure that everybody else who got involved in the discussion has seen it and knows why the article's now gone. For what it's worth, there's only a very small team of Wikipedia users who have access to the IP numbers of registered users, but I've put in a checkuser request.
I don't want to sound like I'm accusing you of anything, but regardless of who skwing is, they already knew about the family connection between Andrei Brennan and hromek2000 before hromek "outed" you in the discussion — and looking at skwing's edit history, he had already identified himself as a Catholic high school teacher in Saskatoon before the Andrei Brennan mess even started — and had edited the article on the very same high school that, according to Google, you teach at. So if you're telling me the truth that you're not skwing, then you may have a coworker or some other acquaintance who's trying to stir up drama by making edits that would look like they were coming from you. So I simply can't punish hromek for assuming that it was you — and you probably shouldn't, either. If you're really not skwing, then I have to break it to you that somebody else you know is sticking their nose into your personal lives. Bearcat (talk) 02:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat: you got him dead to rights. Besides, Andrei does have friends in Saskatoon and even a parish there that has hosted him several times over the years. He only has two enemies: KH and his wife, who possibly might be skwing, but since she teaches at a different Catholic school than him it seems unlikely. Skwing also attempted to post a .pdf file of a letter sent by KH and his wife to Andrei in July. How would the mysterious skwing get access to that? When challenged on the phone, KH said that "maybe someone else got the e-mail". Right. If one is going to lie, at least try to sound credible. Thanks again for your extreme patience in the midst of this madness. Hromek2000 (talk) 05:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat: thanks for your recent message on my talk page. Since Andrei only knows one person who teaches at the high school, namely KH, it is difficult to imagine who else it might be, unless he has a collaborator. It is conceivable that my sister, his wife, might be involved but the writing style is distinctively different from hers and as I said before she teaches at a different school. Whatever the case, Andrei is relieved that the site is down and we will both be glad when the talk page comes down as well so we can move on. Cheers. Hromek2000 (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hail, I come in praise

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I am enjoying your input in the AfD discussion on that Canadian surfer band. I love an intelligent exchange of lively viewpoints (yeah, I know -- who let me into the chat?), and your conversation is tonic in the AfD environment. I wanted to let you know that I think you're great, and I look forward to being audience to your future commentary in this and other discussions. Be well and keep up the fine work. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bearcat, I just wanted to let you know your preference with regard to the band is a bit hidden in the rather extensive discussion. That is all. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:54, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent confilcts

I just wanted to give credit where credit is due with how you handled the recent issues regarding an article about a Bishop who shall not be named. As an administrator you guys have to put up with a lot of BS and don't get nearly enough credit. Top marks and keep up the good work.--Kelapstick (talk) 06:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. You've dealt with this issue quite well. I don't normally do this, but...well, thanks for tending to the farm. (See below.) Mindmatrix 15:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos to you Kelapstick. These editors are awesome. Whatever lingering doubts I might have ever had about the veracity and authenticity of Wikipedia have totally evaporated. Hromek2000 (talk) 07:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Milking the Wikipedia cow

The Admin's Barnstar
It's a thankless job. So, uh, thanks. Mindmatrix 15:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Candice Hoeppner

I just happened to see her on CPAC @ around the time I made the edit to her article, which prompted me to go to her wikipedia page in the first place ... then noticing her birthdate and birthplace were missing, which then prompted me to try and find it. Unfortunately, I am unaware of her family relations! Sorry! Amchow78 (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The category change on Fred Malek

Why? The man's a politician, with a history of involvement that dates back to the Nixon Administration, often in fairly senior policymaking posts. He was one of Colin Powell's mentors at the OMB -- not a role characteristic of political consultants. RayAYang (talk) 06:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are currently ranked the second in WP:EDITS: Rjwilmsi has surpassed you!!!

Hello Mr "Bearcat", just wanted to inform that you are now the runner-up as the World's Most-Edited Wikipedian in the English Wikipedia! Any comments or piece of advice for your successor? It's time to pass the editcountitis baton, former champion! :-) 124.13.192.101 (talk) 06:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, well. I was successful in my mission - to see Brennan take down down his own page which was nothing more than a masturbatory, self-serving autobiography that was full of unsubstantiated and ridiculous claims and assertions. It is too bad the drama got a little out of control and names got dragged into it. Nonetheless -Brennan's BS was taken down. Wikipedia is a better place for it! And, I know that KH et al agree. Skwing (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Virtually the entire "Andrei Brennan" page was full of uncited and unsourced claims and statements on the part of the author. You agreed with me in this regard, lest you should forget that fact. Every posting that I made had some source, even if it didn't meet WP standards, it was at least sourced with a reference. I did nothing inappropriate whatsoever. The values of a true "wiki" were upheld and thankfully the truth prevailed. For the record, I never identified myself online as anyone other tha skwing. If you and Brennan are silly enough to assume that I'm KH, not much I can do about it. Too bad you (and KH) got dragged into this, yet you could have chosen not to do so sir. Neutrality in your role as as wiki admin is key. You gonna have that Timmy's coffee with Brennan? Stay away, trust me. We each own our own behaviour afterall. Skwing (talk) 06:51, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added the following only:

-conflicting information about his DOB and a statement (and supporting weblink) about his previous state of morbid obesity


-edited/removed portions of his page which were uncited and unsourced


-added in a comment regarding his state of mental illness (which was sourced with an upload of a document for which YOU promptly deleted)


And; I posted comments on his talk page that he had made himself online with a verifiable source.

That's it! I never once named names (other than Brennan) and certainly NEVER identified myself as anyone other than SKWING. If assumptions were made about who I am, there isn't much I can do about that. It's not hard to fool people clearly, a few posts and they make assumptions that shouldn't be made. Fools. Skwing (talk) 07:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There were a number of external sources referenced; skwing magically made the references disappear by removing them. Seeing as there is NO ONE ELSE in Saskatoon or even on the planet that has that kind of animus against Brennan other than KH, and seeing as it has been proven that skwing is a teacher at the same school as KH as well as one who has edited that school's wikipedia page, it stands to reason as bearcat [following Occam's Razor] has said that skwing is either KH or someone acting on his behalf with his full collaboration and support, possibly JH, his wife, or maybe skwing is an amalgam of the two working in cahoots? How else would skwing have obtained a copy of the deleted document in question [other than through KH's hilarious suggestion that skwing got it "by accident"], which in and of itself was not a referenced document but personal correspondence to Brennan from KH and his wife JH? Interestingly, this attack on Brennan's web page did not begin until the day after Brennan finally responded to the correspondence from KH and JH [dated in July 2008, which I prevented Brennan from seeing to protect him from their malice, but Brennan discovered on an old e-mail account and promptly went ballistic at its outrageous lies]; when he did, suddenly this online rampage began. Really, skwing, or KH, or JH, or whoever you are, why don't you find a new hobby? You're the fool here, not bearcat or the admins. Everyone following this discussion sees you for who you are. Homophobia is always ugly, especially when it dresses itself up as "righteous indignation". Clearly skwing is the one with mental problems as he cannot let this go. You lost, KH/JH. Now go away into your corner and brood. Brennan's web site is being edited and will be reposted in due course. Hromek2000 (talk) 13:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And out of interest, skwing, name one example of a "ridiculous" claim that was made on Brennan's web site, so that we can be sure to ensure it is fully backed up on the new version? And thanks for the "masturbatory" word. So loving and kind for a Catholic school teacher to use such language online. Doubtless your school board director, who has been made aware of this situation, will find that highly amusing. Hromek2000 (talk) 13:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your namesake

Just wondering if you're aware, your namesake american football team is now 11-0 and on track to win a national championship…albeit in Division III :) -Pete (talk) 07:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT categories

Hi, Bearcat. I thought I *was* following proper procedure by developing consensus at WT:LGBT/CAT. You yourself were involved in the discussion. You even agreed that the "actors" categories did not need to be subdivided by location. Could you and I *please* come to some sort of understanding so that we're not wasting time undoing each-others work? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ursula Franklin edit

Hi Bearcat, Thanks so much for adding the link to the award for the persons case to the Ursula Franklin entry. I couldn't figure out how to do this myself. Thanks again. Bwark (talk) 13:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Stapleton Article Deletion

Hi, I am not sure why you deleted the article "Scott Stapleton." I created the article for wikipedia and encountered some questions/justification and the reasoning for the article was Stapleton's research work with the State Department. It really was vitally helpful to national security in India which is incredibly important especially during these most recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai. Can you please put the article back up? Thanks. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks again. Jnewcombe (talk) 05:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edmundston is gay

I hear that fact on CBC this morning. It beat out Vancouver, I would have put the percentage if I remembered it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.233.126 (talk) 22:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion question

I noticed the page Pjer Zardin i njegovi Psi od Slame was deleted before I managed to complete the explanation on notability after placing the hang-on tag. What recourse do I have now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark8585 (talkcontribs) 07:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback on explanation

My understanding, correct me if I am wrong, is that the article Pjer Zardin i njegovi Psi od Slame was deleted because of notability and not because of verifiability and reliable sources. Have you read my explanation which I completed just shortly after the page deletion. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the article? Should I expand on the biograpies? Or is this a lost cause until they meet (what criteria?).

Mark8585 (talk) 08:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that is very helpful. They meet several criteria. The one thing though is that the band itself is a new think (think of the equivalent of Clapton, Richards and Edge putting a band together recently. Individually they are noted beyond doubt, but the bend in question would not have the track record just yet. This is what is going on here. I am going to take another stab at it tomorrow (getting late here), adding more detail from biographies and explaining what it means.

Mark8585 (talk) 08:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Brennan v. skwing - most recent posts:

1) I give up?! Imbiciles! "hromek" is contained in Brennan's Wikipedia userid, which is visible - duh.

2) I didn't state that the article had misled regarding Brennan's DOB, rather I simply pointed out that there was conflicting information regarding it - that is quite different than implying he lied. Besides - isn't writing your own Biography a violation of Wiki policy? Clearly, even you are now conceeding that this is an autobiography by that statement - interesting.

3) I NEVER completed deleted or blanked Brennan's entire page - that is simply not true. The evidence speaks for itself in the history.

4) Neutrality - what? If Brennan were a right leaning political party it's pretty clear in which direction Mr. Bearcat leans!

It's a shame - Brennan has managed to fool yet another innocent victim (well maybe not completely innocent).

Skwing (talk) 14:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, KH, must be fun being an imbecile yourself [check your spelling, Mr Science Teacher!]. No one gives a tinker's damn what you think. How is it to be utterly irrelevant? Must grate on your proud Oesterreicher personality. Hehehe. We are all laughing at you. 24.235.41.216 (talk) 06:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Holoc/Openkore" ‎ (A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content)

The reason why the article had no meaningful, substantive content was because that was my first page that I was working on. I'm in the process of learning how to create proper wiki articles and that is why I had links referring back to wiki articles to read up on while I was writing up my first wiki article. If I recall correctly, I could create subpages (i.e. Holoc/Openkore) when drafting an article before placing them into the actual encyclopedia. So if there was not another reason for that deletion, may I please get the deletion undone. Thanks.

Holoc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holoc (talkcontribs) 08:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for that mistake and thanks for the reply and restoring the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holoc (talkcontribs) 17:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

current affairs and wikipedia-ism

Hi Bearcat; thanks for your support of my, er, tirade on what's a crisis and what's not re the current federal crumbulation.....the issue of how to keep up with POV events in NPOV fashion is why BC Legislature Raids doesn't get updated much; it's too copmlex, too thorny, and much of the coverage is in blogspace because news-space won't cvover it. I've been puzzling what to do about it for a while now, i.e. breaking off from the article about the raids per se articles on BC v. Aneal Virk or wahtever the case-anme is, the Sale of British Columbia Railway as a separate article beyond that, RCMP in the politics of British Columbia as yet another, and so on....(that last one's a loaded firecracker...amd obviously synthesis/OR to write so I won't touch it...); Media concentration in British Columbia likewise OR/Synth though more straightforward articles such as Patronage in British Columbia and Pork-barrel politics in British Columbia may be easier to document and NPOVize....but at some point thet complexity of this multi-faceted scnadal has to fidn its way into Wiki-cogency. I've been shying away from it because of my own highly-charged POV feeligns about teh sorry state of Canadian "democracy" and the lack of real freedom of the press in this country. I won't go on, just to opiine that matters such as these almost require a special working group to make sure the articles in question are complete but also not influenced by spin-writers and also mindful of any court bans that may be in place; on the other hand Wiki's servers are (mostly) in the US (?) so court-ban orders are not binding there, although I suspect edits from Canadian IP addresses may be subject to interdiction/prosecution....privatization of public assets in British Columbia is tainted by the story around this trial and the circumstances taht brought it about....if there were bribes and influence-peddling in regard to this crowncorp-sale, what other investigations might there be in teh hundreds of documents still sealed from public view? We're facing a "secret witness" in BC Supreme Court, who is probably the Premier, but not even defence counsel will be allowed to know who it is if the Supreme Court of Canada allows it, and now the Special Prosecutor is revealed as having a conflict-of-interest with some of the involved parties....and also a Crown Prosecutor instructing the raiding RCMP what they could and could not say (and the rCMP defying that, and teh presiding cop at the raids who did that in defiance of questionable orderes from the Crown Prosecutor is now being the target of a character-assassination witchhunt from Liberal Party connectees.......very, very messy, and very hard to coalesce into Wiki NPOVism, and much of the fact statements are in blogs, not normally allowed as verifiable sources....(whiel the lying, shit-spewing mainstream media are). It may be that the only hope for complete openness in this case may be a US trade investigation about unfair bidding practices engaged in by US companies "abroad". The risk of a mistrial on any one of several counts right now is very high; which means that the evidence gathered ferom the Prmier's Office many years ago now will be sealed up forever from public view and the media will say that the "Campbell government survived the case". Anyway meant to just drop Bill Tieilemann's latest blog here for you to read up - http://billtieleman.blogspot.com/ (see third section down); the otehr main blog to follow is BC Mary's - here, although that's al ink to a Robin Matthewss post on the blog from last year (worth reading though).Skookum1 (talk) 18:40, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One reason you're getting this is your belief that "BC is a province just like all the others". After reading up on these matters, I think you'll find it harder to say that, at least insofar as political culture and the history of jurisprudence in "The Colony" goes (A British-ism about BC that I find quite handy to allude to BC's colonialist political legacy....). Remember me bringing Begbie to your attention a while back? In re the Cottonwood Scandal, which concerned some land holdings of his near Cottonwood House, his fellow justices ruled it out of order and sealed the case; all documents were destroyed. Taht's what's about to happen here.....While the rest of hte country doesn't know, and the media are making sure that's the case (CBC refuses to cver it as it's "not news" and "only of local/partisan interest")Skookum1 (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy deletion of Ninja High School (band)

A tag has been placed on Ninja High School (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. TheMile (talk) 00:12, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bayshore Broadcasting

Hi Bearcat, i've created an article for Bayshore Broadcasting back in January of 2008. Does this look okay? Take care!

RE:PSIP

I'm pretty sure that some stations are going to switch back to their orignal channel number, but since no station has officially made an announcement, I think it's better off to list their assigned digital number instead of guessing if they will switch back to their old analog channel. Emarsee (TalkContribs) 20:41, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

aaah

I can see the mortar lines on my forehead. :-( DoubleBlue (talk) 02:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Election templates et al

I agree with you that having several election templates on a biography page can create an aesthetic problem, particularly when the candidate has run in both federal/provincial and municipal campaigns. I decided to separate the two types of templates on David Miller's page a while ago, as I see you've done with Popescu now.

I'd prefer to play this by ear in the short term, though perhaps something as simple as enlarging the municipal template could solve the problem.

I wonder if Bartolucci might be aligned with David Courtemanche and/or Janet Gasparini, either of whom could possible harbour federal ambitions. Perhaps we'll discover in a few years ... or a few weeks. CJCurrie (talk) 00:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Throughout the dominion all was astir

Ha Ha. [1] I hadn't noticed that phrasing but you couldn't let it stand, eh? :-) DoubleBlue (talk) 23:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Do you have a job? Titchbits74 (talk) 22:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CKNW

Nice job on trimming. Ronstew (talk) 04:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Chris Tait

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notability not asserted, no sources

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Slocan

Awhile back we made a few changes to this Slocan, British Columbia. In thinking about it, isn't it entirely possible that someone may refer to one of the various Slocan entries (aside from the village) as Slocan, British Columbia too. I'm specifically thinking of the river and the electoral district. If that's the case, isn't either a hatnote or "see also" link useful? Just a thought... Mindmatrix 21:34, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to lurk, but I can speak to this some; certainly in historical usages saying "he was up in Slocan" in the old days, i.e. the days of the Silvery Slocan silver rush, was a reference to teh whole district, more particularly to Sandon/Cody/Three Forks and environs; in those days "Slocan City" would have near-always been used to refer to waht is now Slocan, British Columbia. The Slocan today refers to the whole district, from South Slocan/Playmor Junction on up to Hills and Rosebery and Sandon; mostly I think it refers to the valley of the Slocan River,i.e. south from Slocan Lake/Slocan City i.e. in terms of if you said "I live in the Slocan" that would tend to be the meaning; otherwise you'd say "I live in New Denver" or "I live in Silverton" etc. If you said "I live in Slocan", the response would be "do you mean the Slocan, or do you mean Slocan City?" Residents of South Slocan and Slocan Park would be more specific anyway; I spent almost a month in Winlaw and hitched up and back to Slocan City a number of times, as well as from Nelson out to the Slocan; nobody said, when picking me up, "I'm going to Slocan" if they meant Slocan City; they said "Slocan City". So while the official usage is one thing, the actual usage is another, and teh syntactical distinction with "the Slocan" is the most current; even today, if somebody's relations in Europe or Ontario said "my cousin lives in Slocan, British Columbia" they could easily be meaning Passmore, Appledale, Lebahdo, etc in the same way there's a flexible use of "the" with Cariboo, Yukon, Chilcotin, i.e. there remains a "confusion' between "Slocan" and "the Slocan"; "most common usage" in spoken English in the region, other than official English, is for it to mean the region/valley, rather than Slocan City. And sorry, can't cite that, mabye there's a local website or book or something that explains it; I could certainly come up with instances of the historical contexts of "Slocan, British Columbia" in writeups/promotional materials from the days of the Silvery Slocan and since....Skookum1 (talk) 22:59, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian radio stations

Quick question for you since a) you've a long history here and b) you're involved in the topic. Do you know if there's a reason why some of the articles for Canadian AM radio stations are named with the "(AM)" appended to them, even though there's no FM station, TV station, or anything else that needs disambiguation? Did the naming convention change over time and some of the articles just haven't caught up, or is there a bigger picture I'm missing? See CKML (AM), CFOS (AM), and CHTK (AM) as examples. Mlaffs (talk) 02:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good enough - didn't want to wade in and step on any toes if there was a logical reason. I've seen a couple of missing dab pages for Canadian call signs too, so I'll probably look after those as well. Seems like the home country calls are a logical next project, now that I'm done with the U.S. ones. Thanks! Mlaffs (talk) 03:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dongwong and Incivility

Dongwong made a uncivil comment on his talk page. [2] Apparently he doesn't want to work with others and wants you to "Shut the F*** up". I don't think that talking with him would solve anything any more, a resolution at ANI or the Arbcom however might solve something. Emarsee (TalkContribs) 23:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pat Quinn (politician) Photo

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Thanks again for being patient with us as we come to terms with the strict adherence to regulations on the wiki. Gil Jimenez (talk) 21:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Article

Dear Bearcat - I see that you deleted the article Millennia Media. To avoid deletion, I used a template from the article Solid_State_Logic to create it. I think you'll find that my article used most of the same terminology and encyclopedic writing as found in Solid_State_Logic, which has been on Wikipedia for nearly two years. I appreciate your vigor in removing articles, but in this case I request that you show me specifically where my article differs in tone and content from the Solid_State_Logic article - so that I may make the necessary adjustments. Frankly, I cannot see any major differences. Thanks. Audio77 (talk) 17:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the article tone that was at issue, it was the complete lack of any independent sources besides the company's own webpage. Notability on Wikipedia is determined by the presence of significant, verifiable coverage in reliable sources. Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Bearcat - you are right. There were few -direct- links to external sources. Yet the links I provided opened pages which contained numerous external links (user pages, dealer pages, press coverages pages, industry awards pages, etc..). Is this not acceptable? Do -direct- links need to be in the Wikipedia article? Would the inclusion of -direct- links satisfy your concerns? Audio77 (talk) 05:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen you've closed the deletion of the article Bermudadreieck. The information provided in the article are not right. The article is a full misstranslation. From my point of view it should be deleted to give somebody the chance to create a real translation. According to the rules given through GFDL for translation. NS Nix (talk) 20:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem?

I'm trying to find a link from the Blue Mountain (ski resort) page to the Alpine Inn in Sainte Marguerite. I went to the Sainte Marguerite disambig and then tried the one page that worked. When I clicked on the map link, it pointed to a location just north of Montreal, which is where I would expect it to be.

However, the town is also listed, in your edit, as being part of La Matapédia Regional Council Municipality, which is far to the east.

One of these two pieces of information is incorrect.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carlo Cattarello

Hi Bearcat, I created an article about Carlo Cattarello, a Member of the Order of Canada from Timmins, a notability tag has been put on it, by ChildofMidnight. I suggested that it meets WP:BIO, being a member of the Order of Canada. Anyway I added a couple more references, (mostly are obituaries). Could you take a look, I don't want to be the one to remove the notability tag (if it should be removed). Thanks.--kelapstick (talk) 23:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it's been removed by the editor who put it up, thanks anyway.--kelapstick (talk) 03:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Medicine Hat, Shaunavon and Arnold Tremere

Hello and seasons greetings! I notice you did some puttering on Medicine Hat and Shaunavon, Saskatchewan. Would you care to help out... a new editor Amazona questions and concerns with the article of a notable person from Medicine Hat... Arnold Tremere a nutritonist then agricultural buiness person with the Government of Canada. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 03:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


An Invite to join Arctic WikiProject

Hi, you are graciously extended an invitation to join the Arctic WikiProject! The Arctic WikiProject is a fairly new WikiProject. We are a group of editors who are dedicated to creating, revising, and expanding articles, lists, categories, and Wikiprojects, to do with anything Arctic.

As you have shown an interest in Michael Kusugak we thought you might like to take an interest in this growing WikiProject.
We look forward to welcoming you to the project! SriMesh | talk 02:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Dickson

Does this mean Fred Dickson is not notable enough to warrant an article? NorthernThunder (talk) 06:38, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, if that's okay...

Best wishes for the season

Guess Who's Back!

  • Bet you thought you'd seen the last of me! Anyways, I hate to do this, but you might want to check out User:Mayor's Office. If it is in fact someone from the Vaughan mayor's office, I assume that would be a vanity and npov violation. I'm not going to touch the edits the user made to Linda Jackson (politician for obvious reasons, but if you or someone else could revert them to the accepted version, that'd be great. If you'd rather I ask someone else, just let me know! Thanks. -- Chabuk T • C ] 13:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]