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Good articleDennis Rodman has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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September 15, 2008Good article nomineeListed

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"Rodman is known for his controversial behaviour, such as being a vegetarian " made me laugh. what's so outrageous about that? 

- Vegetarianism is communist and anti-American, did you not get the memo?

Is this original work? RickK 03:36, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Why is written as if he died or something?

What are you referring to? wonders Aragorn2 19:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

47-35 to 72-10 swing

It said in there the Bulls with Rodman and Jordan returning from retirement improved the Bulls from 47-35 to 72-10. This statement is not accurate in what it implies. Michael Jordan came back the year before and was part of the 47-35 team. Rodman was the one who came in at the beginning of 1996.

Celebrity Mole

I've never watched the show so I don't know the rules on it. But is the line shocking many since he did not take a single note while participating on the show actually supposed to say "a single vote"? MK2 15:53, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In the show they have to figure out who the mole is, the person who is paid to make the team lose money, they take Notes on the person they suspect, and he didn'take a single note.

Rodman in poorhouse?

I'm just wondering, is Denis Rodman in the poorhouse? I heard he's pretty much blown most of his money away, and is no longer the millionairre he once was. I am sure he is probably not bankrupt, but has he gone the way of Vanilla Ice and put himself from millionairre to nobody? I think this would be a valid inclusion in the article as to what has happened to Rodman in the last few years.

Well, considering that he's now hiring himself out to crass reality TV shows (Celebrity Mole, Celebrity Big Brother (UK))... quite possibly.

Clarification

Article says "However, his increasingly erratic off-court life, including a brief but heavily-publicized relationship with Madonna, and on-court antics, such as dying his hair," - which makes it sound like he dyed his hair whilst on court. I assume that isn't the case, but I don't really know anything about him.Can someone clarify the sentence? --bodnotbod 21:34, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Can someone add text regarding his friendship with Jack Haley, especially on the Spurs? San Antonio acquired Haley solely to keep Rodman in check.

"I don't give a shit"

Perhaps it should be added to the wikiquote page.. he loves saying it! :-D The magical Spum-dandy 14:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Movie.

As Bad As I Wanns Be was also a movie. And it was horrible.

How many children?

Is there someting wrong with my ears? I just heard on NBC he "fathered 126 children"? Anyone?

Never hit a stranger's kid - it might be your own. Aragorn2 19:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Mixed parentage"?

I'd heard that Rodman's father is black and his mother Filipina. Is this true or was the Filipina his step-mother? Has anyone heard something like this before?Jlujan69 00:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


"Are slated to play" games

Somebody who knows for sure if both the "upcoming" exhibition games that would have happened in the past month needs to update this. 

StaticElectric 06:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Outrageous Behavior"

This is a fudge to get out of saying transvestite or cross-dresser. Any other man who wears women's clothing in public would be called either of those things, what's up with Rodman? He too NBA for that?

I can't believe there's no mention of his bisexuality in this article either! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.185.103 (talk) 11:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Veggie... or not?

why isn't it said he is a vegetarian and a big promoter of green lifestyle?

I couldn't find any sufficient proof of Rodman's vegetarianism (except multi copy-pasted lists of famous vegetarians, without references), thus I question article's category of American vegetarians he belongs to. Moreover, I have stumbled upon such text:
In January 2006, Rodman appeared on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK. He entered the house at approximately 2200 on 5th January. He took into the house with him a pack of "extra large" condoms and did not pack any underwear. He also ate a ham sandwich on his first night in the house, thus quashing previous rumours that he was a vegetarian. (source)--Sigurdas (talk) 04:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sexuality

Shouldn't his alleged bisexuality be discussed. Manic Hispanic 03:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I was surprised that it wasn't even mentioned briefly in the article, considering that it's one of those "controversial" things that he's famous for. I've always thought that it was one of the more fascinating things about him, his alleged bisexuality that he has only alluded to a few times. I recall him making statements about sexual experiences he's had with men, but don't recall where. Perhaps it was on his MTV show? Gypsywitch13 00:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Maybe someone should rename Misc. to "Trivia"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.122.244.15 (talk) 13:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Height

I lived near Chicago during the "repeat Threepeat" while Rodman was there, and I seem to remember that they "corrected" what was initially an exaggerated height from the early part of his career, and listed him at 6'6". I can't find a source for what he was listed at as a Bull, but did find that ESPN and IMDB both have him at 6'6". [1] [[2]


Should the article be updated to reflect this?

Detroit Pistons

"In 1988, Rodman seemed to show even more star potential, crashing the boards more and defending better than before."

I'm not terribly familiar with basketball, and thus don't really know what the bit in bold means. Perhaps we could rephrase that in such a way that is clearer to the unknowledgable reader?Dxco (talk) 03:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hall of Fame

His career (especially his performances in the Finals) seem worthy of the Hall of Fame - I don't seem to remember him in though - does anyone know anything about this? Has he been nominated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.240.53 (talk) 04:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage

Dennis married Michelle Moyer in 2003. She isn't mentioned in this article. Just Carmen. I have provided links that states he was married. There is quite a bit of info listed included that he has 2 children with her Trinity and D.J. Take what you want from it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/may/14/local/me-rodman14

http://www.biogs.com/bigbrother/rodman.html

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/rodman.s%20marriage%20melts%20down

http://64.90.166.18/Report-Former-NBA-Star-Dennis-Rodman-Arrested-for-Domestic-Battery

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13639813 

stingstungme (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)stingstungme[reply]

Good article nomination (WP:GAC)

I have just totally rewritten this article to make it a good article. The nomination page is here (scroll down). Constructive input is appreciated. Onomatopoeia (talk) 20:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a GA reviewer, but I think that standard citation templates should be used for references.—Chris! ct 22:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a GA or even FA requirement. As long as the citation format used is consistent it's fine. Chensiyuan (talk) 06:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Rodman GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dennis Rodman/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Lead
  • Needs serious expansion. Should be at least three paragraphs per WP:LEAD.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • (born May 13, 1961 in Trenton, New Jersey) rmv Trenton, New Jersey from brackets per WP:DATE.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Early life
  • "considered one of the worst areas in those times." Worst areas of where? Dallas, Texas, America?
It was worst part of Dallas. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A factor may have been his height as he measured only 5'6" as a freshman in high school and did not know how tall he was when he graduated in 1979." Second part of sentence doesn't make sense. Who didn't know how tall he was? Rodman? His coaches?
Deleted the weird parts. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "under 6 feet tall to 6'8"" inconsistency of styles, i.e. would suggesting using {{convert}} to these and 5'6" above.
May be a good idea, but IMHO his height is only mentioned 3 or 4 times, and it is consistent as far as I see now —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone nice edited it in. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 18:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Rodman then worked as an overnight janitor at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport, he grew from under 6 feet tall to 6'8" and decided to give basketball another shot." Run on sentence, needs splitting or a conjunction between the two clauses. "Then" also isn't the best word to use - it doesn't have the right impact.
Rephrased —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A family friend tipped off the head coach of Cooke County College in Gainesville, Texas." Family friend of who? Rodman or the head coach? Who was the head coach?
The source (nba.com) is not more precise, sorry. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Then, he transferred to Southeastern Oklahoma State." "Then" is redundant.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pistons
  • "Still, the season ended on a positive note, because his girlfriend Annie bore him a daughter named Alexis." Very informal and I'm not sure that it means the season ended on a positive note.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "After this disappointment," This strictly says the birth was a disappointment. I don't think you mean this.
Heh, done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Although it was feared that the loss of Mahorn – mediocre in talent, but high on hustle and widely considered a vital cog of the “Bad Boys” teams – would diminish the Pistons’ spirit, but Rodman seamlessly took over his role." First clause starts with although and the last with but - doesn't make sense.
Restructured the phrase —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "After winning his second ring," I presume this is for the NBA finals title? It needs to be explained for the non-NBA fan.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1990-91 season is very short especially to say it's his first season of starting.
Done. Inserted a lot more info on that season. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Last paragraph could do with breaking into season-by-season as above. Otherwise it's tough to read.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At that moment I tamed my whole life around." Is tamed correct? Or "my whole life around"?
Done, it's is NOT a typo, but sounds weird. I added a [sic] —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He got his wish on" Get is a poor verb - see it's huge list of definitions - I would suggest finding an alternative or re-writing, e.g. "His wish was granted on."
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Spurs
  • "after having missed 19 games." Either "after missing 19 games" or "having missed 19 games".
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "with freshly minted" Does this means he just won the award? Also needs to be hyphenated.
Rephrased more clearly, he just won the MVP award —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bulls
  • "also helped by the fact that his best friend Haley was also traded to the Bulls." also x2
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ever controversial, Rodman made negative headlines after a head butt of referee Ted Bernhardt during a game in New Jersey on March 16, 1996." This must have had some repercussions? Was he fined? Was he banned? In some sports this would be a lifetime ban. How come this didn't happen?
Clarified: Rodman just had to pay 20k but was not seriously sanctioned, which was controversial —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "However, he made more headlines for his notorious behaviour: on January 15, 1997, Rodman was involved in another notorious incident during a game against the Minnesota Timberwolves." notorious x2
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It still has notorious twice in the same sentence. Peanut4 (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 18:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Twilight
  • "but only played in 23 games and was then released" Then is redundant.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Personal life
  • "laughingstock" Is this really one word?
Seperated —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and finally had his first sex with a prostitute;" needs rewording, either "first sexual experience" or "first had sex"
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


General
  • Numerals and units should be broken by a non-breaking space, e.g. 27 children.
These still need to be done. Peanut4 (talk) 23:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 18:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seasons and scorelines should use endashes not hyphens, per WP:DASH.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Numbers less than ten should be spelled out rather than in numerals, per WP:MOSNUM.
I hope I caught all. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No need to link dates any more.
Done —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are there any images? Some sections are tough to get through without anything to break them up.
Inserted some which seem relevant. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's good to see some. I'm not sure how relevant some of them are though. I would keep them for now, and if you plan on expanding further, take further input either at peer review or a possible FAC. Peanut4 (talk) 23:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some copy-editing is needed a little, particularly the use of "then", "there", overuse of "also" and possible overuse of "Rodman" in some sections. I would suggest giving the article a good read through or getting an independent editor to do so.
  • How about a "Style of play" section? I'm not sure if they are used in other basketball players biographies?
Done: Player Profile —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice section. Well balanced, which can be a problem with these. Peanut4 (talk) 23:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's a lot to do, but I'll put it on hold for now. Peanut4 (talk) 00:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the extremely precise and well-written review. I have incorporated many of your constructive proposals, see above. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Went trhough it a 2nd time and inserted many " " and copyedited this and that. Hope it worked. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 18:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Pass. And a good pass. It meets all the GA criteria, and is overall a good read. I especially like the new player profile section. If you were to try and go for FA status shortly, I would suggest getting some help, partly at peer review, and maybe a copyedit to tighten up and improve the prose. Also, as I said above, the images could do with a going over. All the best with future improvements, though. Well done. Peanut4 (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WOO-HOO!! Thanks for the precise, detailed review and the many constructive proposals. They certainly helped the article, and even a 19-GA guy like me learned quite a lot. For FAC, I would certainly need some additional help, but it is possible to achieve that golden star. Thanks for your work, it is appreciated. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 19:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity Championship Wrestling

In 20008 Rodman took part in the tapings for Hulk Hogan's CMT Reality show Celebrity Championship Wrestling. Because it was pretaped, it has been revealed online that he went on to win the CCW title and was the focul point of the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.86.225.71 (talk) 12:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Pictures?

Do we really need pictures of other basketball players who are connected to Dennis Rodman on Dennis Rodman's page? Like in the first few sections of the page........97.118.242.53 (talk) 03:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two changes needed

"They swept the Washington Bullets and soundly beat the Atlanta Hawks in five games, but bowed out in seven matches against their archrivals Boston Celtics in what was called one of the physically and mentally toughest series ever. He feuded with Celtics guard Dennis Johnson, taunting him in the closing seconds by waving his right hand over his head.' First i think he should be changend to rodman just for the sake of the article flowing better, and secondly what game did Rodman taunt Johnson in?

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