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Kratom Extraction

Hi! You deleted the Talk:Kratom Extraction as a talk page of a non-existant article a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure that the page was meant to be the talk page of Kratom extraction, and there was just a typo when the page was created. Would you mind restoring the page and moving it to Talk:Kratom extraction instead? Thanks, Jafeluv (talk) 08:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, done. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I have now redirected the article to mitragynine because it was just a duplicate. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleating Kilmore warhammer 40,000 championship

May I ask why you deleated this article? I said give it some time and it will look decent. I hope you realise that it was up for delation less than 30 seconds after i created it. Pattav2 (talk) 12:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I deleted Kilmore warhammer 40,000 championship (six hours after it was created) because it did not make any assertion of notability. You can read WP:CSD to read why this is a criteria for speedy deletion. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Help!

Someone's making edits using my IP address. What am I supposed to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.204.122 (talk) 09:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The best way to avoid being confused with someone else using the same IP address as you is to sign up for an account. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hi Edgar181. Please could you move the page bromadol to BDPC? User:Nuklear has moved the page from its original IUPAC name, which I agree is rather long and unwieldy, to the name "bromadol", which while consistent with the naming of related compounds such as tramadol, is nevertheless derived from a name for the compound made up by a user on a drug chat website, and so is not really appropriate for the page name on wikipedia. I advocate using the abbreviation BDPC for the page as this is what is used in the scientific literature. Meodipt (talk) 22:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree BDPC is probably the best name, but I've left a question on the talk page first (was this ever a commercial product?) -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

No the compound has never been marketed. To complicate matters, several members from the mentioned drug chat websites contacted Dr Lednicer, who appears to be slightly bitter that the compound he worked so hard on was never marketed by Upjohn, and was happy to give his blessing to "bromadol" as a name for the compound. However just because the inventor of the compound agrees its a nice name doesn't make it official enough to be the name on wikipedia in my opinion. On the other hand I did name jimscaline after its unofficial name used in the lab that invented it, in preference to its formal chemical name, but in that case the compound didn't have an "official" abbreviation like how this one does. Meodipt (talk) 23:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

OK. Since Nuklear doesn't seem to object, I've gone ahead and moved the article to BDPC. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Splenda

This is not a joke. However, for some odd reason, it is deleted every time it is put in - although it is verifiable in hundreds of online testimonials and in some academic journals.

splendasickness.blogspot.com

Do you have a problem with this? Why? After having explosive gas for weeks bc I was eating low-sugar ice cream, I seriously thought I was going to have to see a doctor and had something very wrong with me. If you have access to ALL of the academic journals, then you would see it is supported in peer reviewed publications. I can only get some of the abstracts when lesser known journals are involved.[1]

I suppose it doesnt really matter anyway since anyone can just google "splenda gas" and read what they need to. I still think the article should reflect reality, however...and it's not "original research" just bc it's in a 3rd tier journal. Blogs are not unreliable sources of data either when they have 50 posts about the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelatomato (talk • contribs) 00:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy requires that information can be backed up with reliable sources, and this policy does not include blogs among reliable sources. I read all the documents linked to in your Google scholar search, but none of them contain any claims that Splenda and/or sucralose cause the problems that you suggest, only that sugar alcohols cause those problems. None of the linked documents are academic journals either. If you can provide me with the details of the references in peer reviewed scientific journals that you are referring to, I can probably get full text copies of them and include the relevant information in the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

User:76.172.176.45 is back and at it again

Last week you blocked 76.172.176.45 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). It was his second (at least) block for disruptive editing. He's back, and he has repeated many of the same edits that caused the issue the last two times. He needs some attention. I'd like to see a good long block where he doesn't get to come back unless he promises to stop editing contrary to guidelines, etc., but I leave it to the cooler head of an Admin to decide what should be done. — John Cardinal (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Since the editor is continuing the same types of edits that have led to 3 prior blocks, I have blocked again for a month. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Amino acid GAR notice

Amino acid has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Lshticmstihtcmbctafocthftw

sorry if i've done this wrong, not used the talk thing before, just wondering why the page on the abbreviation Lshticmstihtcmbctafocthftw was deleted by you less than 5 minutes after i posted it. are abbreviations and chat-speak not valid subjects for articles? or was it because of the relative rarity of the word? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbonski (talk • contribs) 12:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Abbreviations and chat-speak can be valid topics here, but the guideline that applies in this case is WP:NFT. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleting page

Last June you deleted the page for the Tweed Shire Echo newspaper, a northern NSW shire A3 weekly tabloid. It is the sister publication to The Byron Shire Echo, which has been publishing for over 20 years. It's website is here: www.echo.net.au/ Can you please give back admin to username Tweedshireecho so I can create that page again? www.tweedecho.com.au/ We are not advertising. Thanks in advance, hans@echo.net.au

I blocked the username Tweedshireecho (talk · contribs) and deleted the page User:Tweedshireecho because usernames that match the name of an organization the user is trying to promote are not permitted. You are free to sign up with a new username. You should also have a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, which seem to apply here. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Oxone

On the Potassium peroxymonosulfate page the chemical formula is depicted incorrectly. According to Dupont the potassium ion is bonded to the hydroxyl group and not the peroxy group. It's not a huge problem, but can you fix it? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.101.13.53 (talk) 22:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You're right, it would be better to have the anion on the less basic oxygen. I have updated the image accordingly. Thanks for catching the error and letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops

Sorry about that, misread it :(. Ale_Jrb^talk 11:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all. :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Thienamycin

Thanks for uploading a corrected structure.

Lhynard (talk) 04:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I just switched to an image that someone else uploaded. In any case, thanks for catching the error in the other structure. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Own talk pages

Hi, I just saw in your edit summary of an IP you were blocking 'cannot edit own talk talk page'. I was wondering about this earlier because another annon blanked theirs. What I want to know is, what is the best course of action (in your experience) if someone blanks their own talk page? Regards, RaseaC (talk) 20:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I used the "cannot edit own talk talk page" setting because of the personal attacks on the talk page, not because they were blanking their talk page. Normally, users are allowed to remove warnings, etc. from their own talk pages, but in this situation, I restored some of the blanked content so that other users can know the reason for the block. If this user blanks the talk page after his block expires, it should just be left that way. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought it would be something like that because as I read it the policy suggested not getting worked up over something so trivial. Thanks again for your help. RaseaC (talk) 20:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

lake livingston homepage

Please tell me why you deleted the link to lakelivingston.com. it is the FIRST website in east texas and is contributed to by the towns folk with information they want to see. let me know what I can do to keep it from being deleted again. mary —Preceding unsigned comment added by C21cg (talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I deleted the article Web Site for Lake Livingston Texas Recreational Area because it did not make any assertion of notability. According to Wikipedia's notability guidelines (see Wikipedia:Notability (web)), a website should meet certain listed criteria before being included in Wikipedia. These criteria are, for example, being the subject of multiple non-trivial published works. If you think lakelivingston.com meets these criteria, you are free to rewrite the article in a way that demonstrates the subject's notability. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

oops

It looks like you accidentally removed the header from the bot report page at UAA. This stops the bot from working. No big deal, I have fixed it. Please try not to do that in the future. Chillum 14:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... don't know what happened. Thanks for catching it and fixing it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

James Bristow

Hello Edgar181. Is James Bristow notable? James Bristow was a low rank British soldier. He had written a very popular narrative in 1793: A narrative of the sufferings of James Bristow: belonging to the Bengal Artilley. His narrative is widely cited by secondary sources. (Google Book search on the narrative). Being the author of such a popular narrative, is he notable? This article was previously deleted by you under WP:CSD#A7 on 21 December 2006. Thanks, Kensplanet^T _C 08:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

The article I deleted 3 three years ago was completely unrelated to the James Bristow you describe (some kid in Australia wrote an article about himself and his schoolmates.) Please feel free to create an article about the person you describe if you think it meets criteria outlined at WP:BIO. Based on what you describe, I think the subject probably meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Not to be too easy on vandals...

...but IMO the block on 166.205.5.19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) was over the top. If you look at the timestamp for my test1 warning, it was after the ip's last edit to Irony. Essentially, they didn't edit after my warning. ;) Syrthiss (talk) 13:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC) (cut and pasted from my mistaken post on Cirt's talkpage)

though I guess in retrospect it was good, considering they jumped ips http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Irony&diff=312779282&oldid=312775758 after the block. Syrthiss (talk) 13:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps I could have made it clearer in my block summary, but the user I blocked has been vandalizing Wikipedia pages with the same edits using multiple IPs all morning. Any IP found making these edits should be promptly blocked without additional warning. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that was the part I was missing. Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 14:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Block request

Greetings Edgar181 - You recently blocked User talk:217.23.233.244 and as he/she/they is/are back at it - making several vandal edits at each article visited - maybe you could consider a somewhat heftier block. Thank you. --Technopat (talk) 19:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I have now reblocked that IP address. Nothing but vandalism since that last one expired. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for being out there when needed!--Technopat (talk) 09:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

A Page about me was deleted

19:02, 7 September 2009 Edgar181 (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Simon Willson" ‎ (G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page)

I was wondering why this article was deleted I was the first foreign DJ to ever play in China and have about 40 Hong Kong movie credits as well as working as a producer presenter for Hong Kongs' premier English language radio service since 1989. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.250.64.41 (talk) 04:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the page Simon Willson was deleted by the administrator Jclemens (talk · contribs). I only deleted the unneeded discussion page, Talk:Simon Willson. You can contact Jclemens about the deletion of the article itself. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Phosphate image

A recent edit to the image caption on phosphate (File:Phosphate.png) points out a problem. The two dashes connecting the P to the top O are interpreted as indicating a double bond. I doubt that is what was intended, so thought I'd ask here for clarification from the creator. Vsmith (talk) 12:19, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

The image correctly depicts the general chemical structure of organophosphates. I have edited the image description accordingly. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Ta

Thanks for reverting that edit to my bot's userpage :) - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 13:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Clephedrone

Hi Edgar181. Would you mind giving a second opinion about this page? In general my standards for notability are fairly low and I'm prepared to make pages for any compound that has seen some human use or is otherwise interesting for some reason. However in this case I have never seen the compound mentioned in the scientific literature, never heard of any instances of its illicit use, and the only discussion of the 4-(chloro or iodo) methcathinones I have seen on the "drug chat" websites is a general agreement that they are likely to share the neurotoxicity of their amphetamine counterparts to at least some extent and are thus unlikely to ever appear on the illicit research chemical market, as it just wouldn't make sense from a business perspective no matter how unscrupulous the seller. I think per WP:CRYSTAL this page is not encyclopedic and have added a prod template but I feel like should try get consensus or at least see what other people think? I wasn't really sure of the process for deleting pages, as I said I'm quite the inclusionist normally. Meodipt (talk) 02:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Based on the content of the article and a brief websearch, I would agree with your assessment. It doesn't seem to meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion based on either notability or verifiability. I can do a literature search to see if there has been any academic interest in this compound, but I won't have a chance to do that until tomorrow morning. I'll let you know what I find out then. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:04, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like the article has been deleted already... -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Check my ID please

Hi there. Can you double-check this? User_talk:TimVickers#File:Biliverdin3.svg Tim Vickers (talk) 17:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It appears correct to me. I replied on your talk page with details. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Tim Vickers (talk) 18:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Karim Tahan

Thanks for fixing that :D. I've never created an article while tagging it for speedy deletion manually before, although Twinkle does it all the time :D. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 17:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

No worries, it happens on occasion. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion discussion deleted

I added a comment to Talk:Felicia tang suggesting that the article should be undeleted because of the person is now the subject of headlines (she was just murdered), and you deleted my comment very soon after. The G8 criteria specifically excludes deletion discussions. I don't think it should have been deleted under that criteria. dtfinch (talk) 18:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Felicia tang was the talk page for a redirect, rather than for an article with content. The article that had the deleted content was Felicia Tang (different capitalization) which was deleted due to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felicia Tang. In general it would be best to start a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion review if you would like to contest the deletion of that article. However, if you prefer, I can undelete Talk:Felicia tang, but it's unlikely that anyone will encounter your comments there. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

SafeTekUSA missing!

I would like to know why did you delete the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Safetekusa.

I deleted Talk:SafeTekUSA because it was the discussion page for an article that does not exist (SafeTekUSA has never been created). According to Wikipedia's policy, such pages are to be routinely deleted. -- Ed (Edgar181)

Joe Baptista

Please re-create the article about "Joe Baptista". This is not a personal attack. The Gymnasium Querfurt High School is currently under attack by Joe Baptista because we are Public-Root member, TLD registrar, and registrant of the TLD .gqnet. The article was referenced with links to the press releases of INAIC. We are not more affiliated with INAIC or the Public-Root than in the described way. We've received a dozen of emails almost every hour only on last Friday. He published an article about our school at joebaptista.wordpress.com - this is personal attack. He is an Internet terrorist and there is no part exeggerated.

As written, the article served no purpose but to disparage the subject of the article. This is not permitted on Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The article served the purose of telling the people attacked by him the truth about him. Not publishing this article on the Wikipedia just encourages him to continue his freaky terrorism. The article "Joe Baptista" was backed with references, so there is no doubt he attacks the Internet community. Fortunetely, Wordpress deleted his blog, joebaptista.worpress.com now but I am not sure for how long it will make him stop, but I guess not that long. We've set up a spam filter which waves his emails automatically once they get in, hope ignorance works.

Blok Furniture deletion

Hi please explain in simple beginner terms why you have deleted the Blok Audiovisual Furniture page. Thanks

I'm not sure which article you are referring to. There has never been an article titled either Blok Furniture or Blok Audiovisual Furniture. Can you give me the exact title of the deleted article? Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blok_(Furniture)

OK, I'll take a look. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

The article appeared at the time to be a direct copy of another website's text, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Either the website has since changed, or I was mistaken the first time, because it doesn't seem to match now. I have asked the editor who originally marked it as a copyright violation to take a look also. In the meantime, I have undeleted the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:11, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

deleting the real hearts

hey who are you and why did you deleted the real hearts. . . It was like an insult because you didnt ask any permission to deleted. . . .— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jharamie 08 (talk • contribs)

I deleted real hearts because it had little meaningful content and did not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for articles. I would encourage you to read those guidelines before creating any other articles. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Kairine

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Block of 66.240.8.178 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Can you change the block expiration of 66.240.8.178 to June 18, 2010? By then, the students will be out of school. Best, Glacier Wolf 11:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, I have set it to expire June 18, 2010. But, unfortunately, considering the history of edits from this IP, I expect it will end up being promptly reblocked whenever this block expires. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing you already know this, but this IP is shared across all the school system's high schools. Glacier Wolf 03:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Flavokavains

You beat me to it :-). It was way too late last night to start drawing structures, so I just added the names - intending to do more tonight. C'est la vie. You will not be surprised to note that your drawings perfectly match my Beilstein printout. Since you changed the boxes to a Chembox - I have added the BRN numbers. All the best. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 19:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I caused duplicate work. :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

No. I hadn't started drawing, I saw the edits first :-) Ronhjones ^(Talk) 20:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of European and Senlis criticisms with reference from Opium Document

Dear Edgar, can you tell me why you removed the above? Best wishes, --Janeyjo (talk) 16:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The content I removed didn't make sense because it lacked context and was unclear. Perhaps it can be reworded if you want to add it. However, it already seems to be covered in the article anyway. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC) Thanks: Did it say anywhere in the article about opium being produced all over Europe, as well as in the UK - and did it mention criticsms of the Senlis Report - where?--Janeyjo (talk) 12:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Recreation of Lego City tv series

Hi! I am Lego648! and you deleted my article, Lego City tv series! Recreate It Immediately! Lego648 (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I deleted Lego City tv series because it didn't contain any meaningful content. Also, if you want to write an article about an upcoming TV series, you should first find a reliable reference describing it and then you can write a more thorough article in a way that demonstrates that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

potassium nitrate

Potassium nitrate is KNO3 The formula is correct, but only one of the oxygens of NO3- has a negative charge The drawing of NO3- shows two negative charges The negative charge should be on the oxygen O- by the potassium K+ The negative charge on the other oxygen should be deleted You can check this information by looking at the structure of potassium nitrate on the site for the sigma aldrich chemicals catalog (www.sigma-aldrich.com, I think but it should be easy to find)

The chemical structure of nitrate group depicted at potassium nitrate is correct. The nitrate has a net charge of -2 on the oxygens and a net positive charge of +1 on the nitrogen, to give it an overall charge of -1. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)