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 It has been decided that New York City should remain at that name and not at New York, New York. For the discussion that led to this decision see Archive 2 and the additional comments in a section of Archive 5.  A proposal to rename the New York City article to New York failed to reach a consensus and was closed on August 7, 2008. The discussion can be found at Talk:New York/Archive 3.

Poorest city

This article states that New York City is the poorest city in America. http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0806em.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.75.25 (talk) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is odviously wrong. New York is one of the richest cities in the world. If New York was the poorest it would have been in the demographics along time ago. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP DA Fernandez (talk) 04:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Read the article. It states that NYC is the poorest city comparatively in terms of what standard of living you can achieve based on the wages paid there.--Louiedog (talk) 04:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} Why is the Jewish population of NYC compared to that of Tel Aviv (in the "Demographics" section of the page)? Jerusalem is in fact the most populous city is Israel, as well as the city with the largest number of Jews in Israel, and NYC has a geater Jewish population than Jerusalem so why is this camparison not made?

This comparison is not made because there is no source for this information. If you can provide a source, I'd be willing to make the adjustment. Intelligentsium 02:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Washington/Baltimore is not a metropolitan area. Baltimore/Washington is a combined statistical area consisting of two separate entities: the Baltimore/Towson metropolitan area and the Washington Metropolitan area (see here for relevant discussion. Baltimore is a historic east coast city (Locust Point was second only to Ellis Island as a destination for early immigrants coming to the United States) with a separate identity from Washington DC and its own major league baseball team. Baltimore does not recognize two baseball teams and neither does Washington DC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.125.207 (talk) 05:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Washington/Baltimore are actually part of the same metro area. Although each are large cities, they lie so close physically that they are part of the same metro area. There are lots of people who live in Blatimore or the immediate suburbs but travel to Washington to work or play, and vice versa. Their close proximity makes them part of the same metro area, just like Dallas/Fort Worth, Seattle/ Tacoma, Miami/Fort Lauderdale, or San Francisco/San Jose. Even a combined statistical area is still a metro area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 (talk) 04:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I think the population of the city for 2000 should be put in the infobox (not just a 2008 estimate). (I cannot edit the box correctly myself.) The 2000 population should be put in the first paragraph of the article, replacing the 2007 estimate. hello (talk) 09:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a tricky point, which has crossed my mind (and I think others'). What makes it tricky is that when populations are changing rapidly (as has often happened to New York and her individual boroughs), a different distortion is introduced by sticking to the 2000 numbers. While the 2000 census is used for apportioning legislative districts and Presidential Electors, the later estimates are often used for international comparisons, economic analysis, social statistics and distributing government revenues (both state and Federal). This will be moot by the end of next year, when the first returns from the April 2010 census will be known. Both the 2000 numbers and the 2008 estimates are already included in the Historical Population table. —— Shakescene (talk) 10:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Estimated population in lede

See also: Talk:Houston § Population in lead

I would appreciate input from others on whether using an unrounded figure (8,363,710) for the population based on a 2008 estimate (some such estimates are actually revised after the fact) or a rounded, more memorable figure (exceeds 8.3 million) is more appropriate for the lede of the article. The specific unrounded figure still appears in the infobox. A relatively new editor is changed rounded figures to figures suggesting a false degree of precision in several city articles (without any edit summaries) --JimWae (talk) 21:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A rounded figure in the lead flows better, in my opinion. --BaronLarf 21:50, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: A discussion related to this issue has been started at WT:USCITY#Population estimates. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All due respect JimWae and BaronLarf I have posted the latest official estimate population in the opening paragragh in the article you are talking about. I posted my reasons in the discussion page that Barek alluded to. New York City also had the highest population gain (53,498) than any other city and I am currently gathering information to try to include this accomplishment in this same paragraph as well. I believe the actual numbers will lead into this statement. I will post here what I intend to post in the NYC site tomorrow (12/31) and it will stay here 24 hours before I post it. If anyone is opposed to this you can absolutely post your reasons here or in the WT:USCITY#Population estimates and I will discuss them before I post. Thank you Mattscards (talk) 03:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:BRD and WP:lede. You have not made your case. --JimWae (talk) 05:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)--JimWae (talk) 05:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New York City versus City of New York

The intro paragraph makes a statement 'Though the city's actual name is just New York' which is false. The 'actual' (read: official) name is 'The City of New York.' Someone make the change please.65.215.94.13 (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, made the change- forgot to log in so couldn't edit!Tatumstevens2 (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This has been debated, with corresponding shifts back and forth in the introductory sentence and Information box, several times, so it's worth looking at earlier threads and the Talk page archives. Matters are complicated by the fact that New York, Economy of New York, Politics of New York, etc. all refer to the state as a whole, where I would far prefer those articles to be use "New York State" to save time and confusion for uninitiated ordinary readers. —— Shakescene (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am updating the Boroughs with a good link to the Census Bureau instead of a newspaper —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattscards (talk • contribs) 22:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The charter says "city of New York" (uncapitalized "c"). Perhaps the article should simply state that the city is also called the "City of New York" and New York City, and that the "official, legal" name is contested (or undocumented). The present sentence "Though the city's formal name is The City of New York,[2] it is often referred to as New York City, to differentiate it from the state of New York (also referred to as New York State), of which it is a part" is nonsensical. Cannot anyone find out what names the city has officially registered, and with whom? The city's website can be used as source for usage of the name, even for the name being customary, even for the name being used for registering copyright material - but not for the name being the "official" name of the city itself --JimWae (talk) 04:23, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's the issue with WIkipedia. No one/everyone is always right and without any cause or reason. I've lived here all my life and can tell you the official name is The City of New York, regardless of what any editor here says. I also see that any reference to the statement made above Though the city's actual name is just New York which was also found in the article, was removed from the article, evidently so some editor could remove any chance of anyone questioning his/her ability to override anyone else's changes. Thats the Wikipedia way to do things- just make up the rules as you go and point someone to some 'talk: page.'207.38.156.111 (talk) 05:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The city's 2004 charter disagrees with you. You may note that that document uses all three names: "New York City", "City of New York", and "city of New York" (meaning just "New York" is the name, with "city of" a descriptor). However, the first can be explained as meaning the "City Charter for New York". The second can be explained as capitalizing the first word in a phrase; that is, "City" is capitalized because it comes at the beginning of the line, not because it's part of the official name. When the time comes to officially name the city, on page 6, it says: "§ 1. The city. The city of New York as now existing shall continue...."
Really, it's no different from the state. The state's official name is just "New York", not "The State of New York" or "New York State". Powers T 16:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hydrography

Can a section be added regarding New York's hydrography ? The section should contain the rivers in New York, and should also mention the proposed New York storm surge barriers. See Against the Deluge: Storm Surge Barriers to Protect New York City. Proposed barriers were:

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