Talk:Mount Everest

Mount Everest is on the border of Nepal and China!!!

ugh,,,, shouldnt this be under ' Sagarmatha' and not mount everset. Wikipedia please fix!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.15.164 (talk) 03:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm English and have been to China and Nepal and have seen Mount Everest for my own eyes and i know it is in Nepal.Tibet claims its on the border noooo its in NEPAL!!!

It is located right on the border. Look it up on Google Earth or something. Njaelkies Lea (talk) 10:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

previous title (Mount Everest is in Nepal not China!!! ) is incorrect, even its own content suggested it is right on the border. Hyuan71 (talk) 01:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Summit panorama missing

It would be very nice to have a panorama from Mount Everest's top here. Miraceti (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for improvements to section "See also"

See also:

• Everest Base Camp
• Geology of the Himalaya
• Kangshung Face, Mount Everest
• North Col
• South Col
• Rongbuk Glacier
• Rongbuk Monastery
• Sagarmatha National Park
• Timeline of climbing Mount Everest
• Category:Summiters of Mount Everest
• List of deaths on eight-thousanders

Gallery threshold (talk) 09:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

• Article links within the body itself do not need to be put into See also. RedWolf (talk) 05:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Fastest Everest Ascent: Lahkpa Sherpa, 10 min. ==

The fastest Mt. Everest ascent record is held by Lahkpa Gelu Sherpa, with a time of 10 hours, 56 minutes (with oxygen). This record shattering climb was made on May 25, 2003. His time cut former records in half. There is ample journalistic evidence of his climb and it should be noted on this page. Grammartician (talk) 01:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Addition to summits without bottled oxygen

I believe that Larry Nielson should be added due to the fact that he was the first american to summit without oxygen. He did so on May 7, 1983 with sherpa Ang Rita. You can read the article at http://www.everestnews.com/history/climbers/larrynielson.htm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by B0b3rt13 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

PROMINENCE

I'd like to know the prominence of Mount Everest without having to measure it in Google Earth. (I don't believe many of our readers would want to do that, either.) It just doesn't seem right listing its height ASL in the geobox twice. The explanation on the topographic prominence article leaves me confused and still not able to understand how Mount Everest extends all the way to the seacoast. I'd be stressed to believe that Mount Everest is any more than 8,000 m in prominence, or that it sits right next to the Indian Ocean. Shannon^talk _contribs 02:10, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Naw, I measured it in Google Earth and the most I could get is 4,686 metres (15,374 ft). And that's pretty generous. Somebody has to work on their measuring skills. Now if only some website or book could be sensible and list the REAL prominence of Everest, which is around 3,700 m... Shannon^talk _contribs 02:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I think you need to re-examine the definitions of topographic prominence. Assuming that the surface of the sea is regarded as part of the earth's surface, the highest summit of an ocean island or landmass (Eurasia-Africa in the case of Everest) is always equal to the summit's elevation. Viewfinder (talk) 06:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Did you know that, in reality, the height in feet ends in 000? They didn't think anyone would believe them, so they added some height. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.11.150.72 (talk) 01:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

India should be highlighted please

I think in the second paragraph the first mention of India isn't highlighted like this India then. I think the second mention is then. 71.105.87.54 (talk) 06:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

• Done: India is now wikilinked. -- MarcoTolo (talk) 15:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Tibet is listed as part of China

The Tibetans would disagree, perhaps this should be handled more sensitively, by simply listing Tibet. Iamalwaysrightabouteverything (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

whatever the POV, the Tibet AR is an inevitable part of the PRC. . ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 01:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Why do these subjects always draw out all the political ideologues? The border of Nepal and Tibet/China runs up the West ridge to the summit, and then down the South Ridge to the North Col, up Lhotse, etc.

If you don't believe it, go there and see who issues you climbing permits. The north side is controlled by the Chinese, the south side by the Nepalese.Tholzel (talk) 14:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I have not been following the altitude question, but National Geographic agrees that the new height of Mt. Everest is 8850m, 29,035-ft. It is on all their newer maps. This measure is based on Brad Washburn's recaculation based on measurements made by reflecting a laser beam off a retro-reflective mirror on the summit.Tholzel (talk) 14:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The elevation of the rock-head should be metioned in the first paragraph and the infobox

Since the two system of measurements, rock-head and snow-cap, are consistent with each other, and they are both important informations for the readers, I think they should be both written in the beginning, at least in the infobox.

---Towards Mars 05:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.45.134.199 (talk)

Sure, then one of us can go up there each day and measure the snowpack (say, at noon) so as to constantly maintain an accurate measurement for the infobox. I'll go first. Steveozone (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Age of Mount Everest

I have recently come from an argument with a person of certain theological persuasion who posited that Mount Everest rose up quickly and suddenly, just in the past few thousand years. I'd love it if we could have some more detailed information on how, exactly the mountain is known to have formed over the article's timescale. What about the nature of the rock teaches us of the 60-million year figure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.27.111.132 (talk) 16:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like you encountered a biblical literalist who believes in Flood Geology. Unfortunately I am not qualified to provide the information you ask for, but I agree that it would be welcome. Viewfinder (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't want to call out any faith in particular, but it's kind of hard not to. Yes, welcome it would be. 208.27.111.132 (talk) 15:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to propose the following to your religiously challenged opponent; we all agree Mt. Everest is about 6000 years old, as per his scriptures, and please try and do the utmost to persuade the man to refrain from editing Wikipedia in the future. Qwrk (talk) 18:17, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Chinese names

珠穆朗玛峰/Zhūmùlǎngmǎ is a phonetic transliteration of the Tibetan and has no meaning: the component characters are something like "pearl-respectful-beautiful-agate" and were chosen by pronunciation. While rendering 聖母/Shèngmǔ as "Holy Mother" is not incorrect, the character 聖 is also commonly used for "Saint", so there's not necessarily any distinction to the Tibetan meaning. Jpatokal (talk) 12:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm considering changing the introduction to reflect this fact. The current wording implies that the Tibetan and Mandarin names should be separate when they should not be, given that the latter is a transliteration of the former. ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 01:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

First Ski Descent of Mt. Everest

First ski descent of Mt. Everest was by Hans Kammerlander in 1996, at the time he also set the speed record for the fastest ascent of the mountain. more here if needed, http://www.kammerlander.com/dt-lebenslauf.htm . Please correct this error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2Steep (talk • contribs) 19:49, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

• This is already listed on Timeline of climbing Mount Everest. Feel free to expand it if you wish. RedWolf (talk) 05:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.183.35.251, 31 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Various records In May 1999 Babu Chiri Sherpa spent a record 21 hours on the summit without supplementary oxygen, even sleeping there. In May 2000, Babu Chiri Sherpa also set the record for the fastest ascent to the summit of Everest at 16 hours and 56 minutes from the South side (Nepal Side).

76.183.35.251 (talk) 05:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: Please provide a reliable source when requesting that a change be made. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Here's a source, if someone can get to it (otherwise I'll get to it in a day or two): [1] This man probably could have an article as well; he was a very highly-regarded climber, and WP doesn't have many articles on notable climbing Sherpas. Steveozone (talk) 01:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC) Huh, seek and ye shall find: Babu Chiri Sherpa. Steveozone (talk) 01:09, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

First and the only blind man who reached the summit (Erik Weihenmayer)

Maybe it is worth including info about him in this article? Neveripe (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is really considered a big landmark ascent, so I don't think it shoudl be mentioned in the already quite detailed "ascents" section: note also that the main article for this section, Timeline of climbing Mount Everest, does mention Erik Weihenmayer, though no special emphasis is placed on the fact that he was the first blind man to reach the subbmit, which further suggests it probably shouldn't be included in this article. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 22:53, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Why is India included?

Mount Everest is located in Nepal? And why is India included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rashmi pkrl (talk • contribs) 16:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)