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Ethnic backgrounds

If you're going to remove the word white in front of the word ethnic, then logic follows that you should take out the mentions of Irish, Italian or Jewish heritage. The word ethnic on its own gives an innacurate picture, since that term applies to all sorts of groups, including non-white groups. As far as I know, there wasn't any notable presence of Pakistani, Chinese or Indian greasers in 1950s/60s USA. I'm not sure what's so controversial about pointing out that fact. Spylab 13:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


The Fonz

What? No mention of the most famous greaser of all - Arthur Fonzarelli!!! 69.122.122.147 (talk) 20:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)AR[reply]

Picture?

No picture of greasers in stock? Or are they all extinct? - Redmess 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The alternate name in Estonian is definitely not "Lõngus"!

"Lõngus" is something else... just a boney loser or something like that...

Oh, heck no, they're not extinct. There are like 5 of them at my school and there were about ten last year but some of them must have graduated.

Mannerisms section

I have deleted the mannerisms section because it was all uncited opinion (aka original research) and false claims. It included the names of two random non-notable people and some nonsense about them starting a trend of eating honey-roasted peanuts and "beating up sqares". Those two names were inserted into a few Wikipedia articles as some kind of joke.Spylab 13:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1959 C addy?

Why would I want to drive my Grandma's car? It seems to me a Greaser is more into Hot Rods! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.156.93.42 (talk) 07:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greaser because of their hair?

I thought greasers got there name because they were always working on their cars and covered in grease. People had been using pomade in their hair long before the 1950's. The street gangs came later! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.156.93.42 (talk) 08:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing Intro

Please review this: Greasers are a group of kids with problems working-class youth-based subculture, it makes nonsense to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by MXER (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article serious problems

The term "greasers" prior to 1969 referred to Italians and was derogatory. It was not used in this articles sense until 1969, and only then it was an "invented history". The invention was so popular throughout the 70s and 80s that it has now entered popular culture as if it actually existed. It did not. See this article for more info:

This whole article needs to be rewritten, I wouldn't know where to begin. 71.191.40.106 (talk) 05:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

that is not true. Italians were referred to as "greaseballs", not "greasers". The history is not invented, and I challenge you to prove otherwise. There are many pictures, articles, etc. on the greaser culture in teh U.S. all over the net. 76.223.250.233 (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More sources

I actually came here after reading a Metafilter article a couple days ago discussing the aforementioned Columbia article. Metafilter might not meet RS, but theres a lot of ideas expressed we can make use of in refocusing the article ( would we give them a tip of the pen then to avoid plagiarism? ), and at any rate they posted a bunch of links that we can use as RS.

Remember the Fifties? For a certain generation, who could forget those golden innocent days as depicted in shows like Happy Days, Grease and the band Sha Na Na. But it turns out that vision of the 50's is mostly fantasy and never existed, largely invented by a group of Columbia U students around 1969.

http://www.metafilter.com/75374/The-Fifties-an-invention-of-Sha-Na-Na-Scottish-Highlanders-Rondald-Reagan http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/sep_oct08/features1

Also our article could merge in the earlier definitions of "greaser" as a derogatory term for Italian or Mexican youths, depending on which coast you were on. It's not unreasonable to assume the pop-culture, vaguely ethnic "greaser" of the 1970s was a takeoff on the real-life ethnic "greaser" of the 1950s.

And the 1940s book Street Corner Society documents the use of "greaser" among Italians to refer to more recently arrived/less assimilated Italians.

Yes, in response to someone saying "ethnic" was too general in one of the top posts, "ethnic" is often used in the US to refer to white people of other than Anglo descent, whether Italian, Spanish, or Persian. Squidfryerchef (talk) 04:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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