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Good articleJames Franco has been listed as one of the good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
August 19, 2008Good article nomineeListed

James Franco Admitted To University Of Houston Ph.D. Program

Sorry, I'm new to Wikipedia, but can someone add the fact that James Franco has been admitted to the University Of Houston Ph.D. Program? Here is a reference: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/james-franco-houston_n_852348.html. He is also listed in the Creative Writing Program's newsletter at the following link: http://www.class.uh.edu/cwp/__docs/2010Newsletter.pdf. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan249 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:James Franco/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

The article's very close to GA, but here are a few pointers:

That's about it - the article will be on hold for a week so good luck with making changes until then. —97198 talk 10:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, awesome, I'll add the article to WP:GA. —97198 talk 06:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the review. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NYU?

On tonight's Saturday Night live, Franco said he was attending Columbia. Any sources to explain why this articl3 says NYU? Corvus cornixtalk 06:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Viral videos "not important"

I'd like to discuss returning my paragraph on JF's viral videos. They were removed for not being "important," but his comedy videos have hundreds of thousands of views and are famous in their own right. If JF's bio is going to include his painting, which I believe few fans care about, then shouldn't this bio at least mention his videos? Some of them are produced exclusively for Funny Or Die, which is an official entertainment and comedy site. The Knocked Up "firing" was created by Judd Apatow, was a viral sensation, and has over half a million views.

Am I wrong? Any support for this? It seems strange to err on the side of NOT providing information when the subject in question is - to my mind, at least - quite significant and well-known.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 22:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • No one has objected in a week, so I've restored the paragraph.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 00:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: A link to YouTube violates copyrighted material, so don't add it, per here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia copyrights page does not mention YouTube, nor does it include the term "video." Further, the works in question were created for the internet and linking to them does not, in any sense, constitute a violation of copyright. There are links to YouTube throughout Wikipedia and I find it strange that this particular instance would be flagged. While this matter is pending, I am restoring the deleted sentence.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 05:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, what importance does your recent addition of that video have towards his career? If you must know, Wikipedia isn't a site to carry trivial facts, but you just main points. Also, you may see other articles that have YouTube links, the thing is that this article is a Good article, and should be maintained a Good article. The articles you've seen with the YouTube links, are probably not Good articles. If you see here, you'll see that the expected criteria for a Good article is that "it addresses the main aspects of the topic" and "it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail", exactly what I'm pointing out with the YouTube video link. Final point, is YouTube behind the video of Franco and that Hollywood tribute? If not, then it violates linking to copyrighted videos; "However, if you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work." --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I maintain that James Franco's viral videos are as significant as, if not more significant than, his painting. A Google search of "james franco" "funny or die" brings up 581,000 results. "James Franco" "painting" brings up under 72,000. It is my belief, and I understand that this may be subjective, that fans of James Franco, particularly younger fans, know him for his viral videos as much as for his "legitimate" work, and certainly far more than this painting, which is given four sentences in this article.

As to whether YouTube owns the copyright on a video, I can only answer that the video in question is meant to be a viral video, and by definition, any distribution is not only legal but actually encouraged. The first sentence in Wikipedia's entry on viral videos states: "A viral video is a video clip that gains widespread popularity through the process of Internet sharing, typically through email or Instant messaging, blogs and other media sharing websites." In addition, you may notice that the video, which appears to be available in its entirety on YouTube, does not show a copyright mark at its beginning or end.

I hope this addresses some of your concerns.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You bring up the point that the videos are important, because his fans recognize him? Doesn't make sense. So what? The painting was something that he did during his time in college, thus belonging in the PL section. You say that it is your belief he's famous because of these videos, that seems to be your point-of-view, which quite frankly isn't allowed in articles. Still, you haven't brought up a point as to how the videos are important. Specifically, the Hollywood tribute. If it were like Paris Hilton mocking John McCain in the Funny or Die.com video, since people wound up recognizing that Hilton is not your typical "dumb blonde", as she "responded" back to McCain's ad, and the fact that it attracted media attention, I would see the significance. Now, the tribute, don't see how that's "important" to Franco's article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe James Franco is famous because of his viral videos, but his viral videos are famous and deserve mention. I suppose they could live in their own "James Franco's viral videos" entry or perhaps in the "List of Internet Phenomena" entry. By parodying himself and his industry, he has made himself more accessible and relatable to his fans than, say, Paul Rudd, another of the Judd Apatow ensemble. And yes, I think that adds to his fame.

If I can't convince you that viral videos are important in their own right, we may be at an impasse. I can only recommend that you read the Wikipedia article on the subject and perhaps research Lonely Girl, Chocolate Rain, the trailer for "Shining" (no "The), Leroy Jenkins, and the Star Wars kid. Viral videos are a pop culture phenomenon on par with TV shows.

For example, Chocolate Rain has almost 31 million views on YouTube; According to Nielsen, 1.72 million people watched "Everybody Hates Chris" on Friday, November 7th: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/08/friday-nielsen-ratings-cbs-makes-a-night-out-of-it/7832. Thus, As many people have watched one viral video as will watch an entire season of a sitcom produced by Chris Rock on a major TV network.

The reason I am trying to include James Franco's current viral video is just that; it's his current video making the rounds, with great mystery surrounding what he's promoting (an upcoming film, one assumes) and who is behind the video (again, suspicion falls on Judd Apatow). Obviously Wikipedia does not shy away from covering ongoing TV shows, sports seasons, and space missions, so I see no reason not to include it. It may not be important yet, but all of his other videos have become famous, so is it wrong to assume that this one will, too?

It seems that I'm advocating for more information, while you are arguing for less. You may think the extra information is trivial; I think his painting is trivial. Perhaps we should delete both sections?

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 06:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Lead

I edited the intro (lead) and it was reversed by ThinkBlue, so I figured we could discuss it here. My beef with the intro to this article is that it contains exact sentences from the Career section, and is far too detailed for the lead. A reader doesn't need to get a plot description of a movie in the lead section for an actor. Also, this intro contains nearly a full flimography for the actor. I'm all for a concise intro on pages for actors/directors/musicians. We don't need a complete list (with blue-links) in the first paragraph. Honestly, unless a person fought in World War II, it shouldn't be linked in their lead. And if the sentences in the lead are simply lists of all the movies and television shows Mr. Franco has starred in, it makes it difficult to read. The lead for an actor should list a few roles that they are most famous for, and let the character descriptions and plot summaries remain where they belong, in the body of the article. Peabody80 (talk) 15:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First Film

Hello,

Just a bit of information for you on James Franco ... I distributed his first film "If Tomorrow Comes" Gerritt Steenhagen was the Producer and Director.

My company then was RGH Lions Share Pictures

Gloria Morrison 323-333-6111 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.129.204 (talk) 13:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What Race is he?

I know he's an American but are his ancestor's Spaniard or Mexican? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faradism (talk • contribs) 01:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His father is Swedish and Portuguese (hence the surname), his mother Russian Jewish. This is in the article. His race is caucasian. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flaws

Does this guy have any flaws? Because either that or him being humble are the two ways to reach people and gain more fans. Even I could nit pick a flaw and ask why he didn't do acting school and university school at age 18 instead of 28 or so. However, the main point is why would males like this guy whereas females might like someone who is flawless... males might need to like him because he is also humble or he can be related to as a male. TY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.69.9 (talk) 01:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Physically? No. Acting-wise? Yes. He's horrible at it.

Saturday Night

The article says

Franco produced and directed a documentary titled Saturday Night documenting a week in the production of an episode of SNL.

but there's no mention of the documentary in the filmography. 184.153.110.113 (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Green Hornet

Does anyone know of a credible reference that confirms he played Danny "Crystal" Clear? 65.102.211.54 (talk) 05:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commencement speaker error...

"He was selected as the commencement speaker, the youngest, at his alma mater, UCLA, on Friday, June 12, 2009. On June 3, 2009, a press release announced Franco's cancellation as UCLA's commencement speaker due to a scheduling conflict, making it the second year in a row..."

The way this is written it sounds like he was selected to speak on the 12th, which clearly isn't the case - that's the date of the ceremony itself (and nine days after his cancellation, heh). Also, the source given for this is useless: a link to the Daily Bruin's homepage rather than the specific article. I'm fixing both issues. 98.254.42.152 (talk) 14:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

extremely pretentious but workaholic

There were an article of some psychologist, maybe his past psychologist, OR maybe a professor describing him as extremely pretentious. This is important because he himself, as view on multiple aspects, does not seem pretentious. I mean pretentious in a way that he thinks he is super special so says a psychologist or is it a professor? Either way, I also read from the some article and person that he is a workaholic and hence, that is why he gains good and stays ahead in all around productivity. SOMEONE PLEASE FIND THE ARTICLE. I KNOW KNOW I READ IT. 96.247.79.87 (talk) 03:29, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

Now that he is a writer he will inevitably need a bibliography, right? Why isn't there one already?Kansaikiwi (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's the "Selected works" section. I'll add the Palo Alto stories book. Dawnseeker2000 01:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Akaminsky3, 5 May 2011

At the end of Early Life and Family section there is this sentence:

While working at the establishment, for his acting classes, he would practice accents on costumers.

It should be customers instead of costumers

Akaminsky3 (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks. --NeilN talk to me 03:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

main picture

The main picture is awful. Just saying.

CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 14:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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