Talk:Kid Icarus

Palutena

I wonder, were the translators working for Nintendo not given the Japanese-market pamphlets and other junk that would have accompanied the game in the box? How did they screw up translating "パルテナ" (pa-ru-te-na) into "Palutena", when the name on the box was clearly written "Parthena" (presumably in romaji)? LOL. —Ryanaxp 19:13, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious about that too, especially since "Parthena" is a real Greek female first name... The Trashman 00:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

As the official Super Smash Bros. Brawl website still lists her name as Palutena, and it seems to only ever been rendered as such in English, shouldn't Wikipedia refer to the character using this official name (rather than adopt a fan translation, even if it's a more accurate translation)? 67.165.72.229 02:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. I have made note that "Palutena" is the official romanization (translation error, or not). I have kept "Parthena" as a note of an alternate English spelling (along with "Parutena").

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have the Japanese game for the famicom disk system and it clearly says in Japanese katakana PARUTENA. That's on the box, my friend.

Duh, that's how it'd be written in katakana, but it's a Greek name, and it's Parthena.

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"Palutena" has to be one of the worst translation errors I have ever seen. Are they actually going to call the character "Palutena" in Smash Brothers X? I know a Parthena in real life, and I seriously doubt she'd answer if someone called her "Palutena". Any chance Smash Brothers X's translators consult Wikipedia? Or will they keep recycling translations from the 80's? 85.75.185.18 08:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I am pretty sure the developers meant Pallas Athena. --Stormwatch (talk) 09:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

As evidenced by Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Nintendo's official site, "Palutena" is the official name. Whether you think "Parthena" is a more precise translation or if "Palutena" is a failed translation has zero bearing on the matter; the official information is clear. 207.119.231.131 (talk) 09:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Noting that "Palutena" is the official information does not preclude the article noting that Nintendo mistranslated the word that should correctly be "Parthena". The English manual also mistranslates the second boss' name as "Hewdraw", even though anyone remotely familiar with Greek mythology knows that it's "Hydra".NewRisingSun (talk) 14:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The section about passwords

Under the history section is a list of "good passwords" from the game. I didn't delete it but I'm wondering if it is appropriate.CDiddles

seriously???

i can't believe that when you look up kid icarus there is hardly any mention to greek mythology....its all about the video game. what is the world coming too?!? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.203.47 (talk • contribs)

There's a mention in Kid Icarus#Trivia, but other than that, I don't think we need anything else. Do you? --Merovingian ※ Talk 01:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Passwords

I looked up passwords on Gamefaqs and even when I type them right, it says it's wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.46.20 (talk) 22:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

That's because the VC version's passwords were changed from the original.

Editting by morons

It's been editted. I poke around the video game parts of Wikipedia, and some moron added his comments while deleting the plot. Might as well put the plot back up and permentally lock it. It's not gonna change. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.71.32.121 (talk) 23:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

Year it was made in.

What's is the meaning of chaning back to 1986. Kid Icarus was made in 1981 not 1986. Those were the years Nintendo was computerized stickers from 1981-1985. Donkey Kong was computerized, so was Donkey Kong Jr., Mario and etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.196.178.200 (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

Except the NES didnt exist in 1981. You are dumb

TOSE

TOSE's role in development is not well-known. I think they probably just ported the game to the Game Boy, I don't think they really had any role in developing the game itself. Andre (talk) 22:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

TOSE's involvement has been revealed through later code comparisons. They worked on the the original FDS release in some coding capacity at the least, even if uncredited. (98.14.112.115 (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC))

Series Page?

Why does this need a whole page dedicated to the series if there are only two games and a few cameos? Can't we just mash them all into one, like how the Vectorman article is set up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.77.245 (talk) 21:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it is simpler this way. -User talk:mkalv

GameBoy release

this was also released on the original GameBoy in 1992 i will look for the release schedules for the dates —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thh420 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

why is there nothing about kid icarus wii? it exists : http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=11895 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.182.80 (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Difficulty

In my travels, this game has a notorious reputation for being one of the most difficult games in video game history... even to this day. By comparison, Battletoads mentions it's reputation as a difficult game, but I've beaten it. I still cannot beat Kid Icarus. - tbone (talk) 23:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

• I'll second that. It's the hardest of the 8 bit platformers that I've played. I don't know how or why we could put that in the article, but I agree. I've never beaten it either, although emulation should make that a fairly easy task these days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.182.8.21 (talk) 13:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Finley?

The article introduces the main character as "Pit", but then all of a sudden starts referring to him interchangeably as "Finley" without any explanation or introduction. What's up with that? --HunterZ (talk) 17:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Putto

The article should probably link to putto, if the main character is one. My intuition says yes, but who knows. --Easyas12c (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kid Icarus/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 13:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Nice work!

In the Development section, you refer to the "best American ending" and one of the Japanese endings being "worse." Unless you have a source that states these things are "best" or "worse," you should not use weasel words. Will continue the review when these are addressed. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 13:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 15:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Okay, now I'd like you to take a look at WP:LEDE and make your lede conform to those guidelines. There shouldn't be anything mentioned in the lede that is not in the article, and vice versa. Also, the lede should also touch on every section in the article. There's lots more on this at WP:LEDE. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 16:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Done...I Belive. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 17:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Lastly, if you think Kid Icarus had an impact on later games/game development, you should include a "Legacy" section. If you can add that, and it looks good, I'll pass it. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 02:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Put in legacy, put some info and put that in the lead. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 22:29, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Congrats, this article passes.

Why a disambiguation?

There are two things that one might think of when they think of this - the video game and the band [which is far less significant]. The series page, while it exists, is really redundant to this. The NES game is the root of all the series' influence; no one remembers Of Myths and Monsters, so it seems silly to suggest that as a brand, it's more well-known than the game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

About the series it those exist and many pepole have played it, just kike metroid 2, and the latest interview with nintendo gives ideas that there planing to make a wii sequel. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 12:42, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

That there is an incredibly less well-known sequel and a rumoured Wii sequel does not warrant the existence of a series page. The series page is, basically, this page rewritten. Hell, the Reception section is nothing BUT content related to the original game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 17:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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Kid Icarus (video game) → Kid Icarus — Relisted. From the discussion following this one, it appears that there is now support for an overall Kid Icarus article which could negate the reasons behind moving this if that is not created at Kid Icarus (series). So this is just to allow time to see how that develops. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Redundant disambiguation. Kid Icarus already redirects to this article. Also per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, this page is clearly the primary topic so it shouldn't be disambiguated. Mika1h (talk) 13:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support. The only other things with the name Kid Icarus are sequels and a band that takes its name from this game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 04:26, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support. 220.101.4.140 (talk) 02:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

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Series page

"Kid Icarus (series)" currently redirects here. While it has made sense before, I believe the announcement of a third Kid Icarus game is enough to warrant Kid Icarus as big enough a franchise to deserve an article dedicated to the series as a whole. I believe such an article should be made and 'Kid Icarus (series)' should no longer redirect here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan7077 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you. An article about the series would be good to write about recurring elements, history, etc. RocketWobbuffet (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Recurring elements could be covered here. We need reception and development information that isn't redundant to this article. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Nintendo's little newbie/oldie

I think Nintendo is gonna run with Kid Icarus, like DK, Mario, Link, Kirby, Samus, Pikachu, etc. I'd be nice to see him more than 6(KI,KI:MoM,KI GB,SSBM,SSBB,KI:U) times over the course of 24 years.

*sigh* Pit, your alright. Uprising is so amazing, it makes you in the 80's look like a piece of crap(that kinda hurt me).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.217.224 (talk) 07:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC) 

Kiss of gratitude from Palutena

FYI I removed "and will receive a kiss of gratitude from Palutena" after "...teenager" in plot because if you watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYsNpQmQ7sk you see that it clearly doesn't happen. It this vitally important work? No. Is it good to be accurate? Yes. 220.101.4.140 (talk) 02:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Merger

I think a merger of Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters to Kid Icarus would be appropriate, as there is not enough unique feature material and coverage in reliable third-party sources. I checked all possible magazine scans from that time, and there seem to be no actual reviews on the game. Beyond that, the gameplay is almost identical to that of Kid Icarus. All unique information on the game is included in the first paragraph of the legacy section, but the chances of a standalone article getting even just to "good article" status are extremely low, given the lack of coverage on development and reception. Prime Blue (talk) 20:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

But what if it becomes ported to the Nintendo 3DS' Virtual Console and cause more reviews to pop up? Parrothead1983 (talk) 00:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Can still be split if this happens (preferably with some development information), but at the moment, there is not much that sets it apart from the original game. Prime Blue (talk) 00:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I congratulate you on your massive expansion/cleanup of the article. I don't know how it was considered a Good Article before, but it definitely meets it now. Although, I have revived the sequel's article with some references. Tomorrow I may flesh them out and look for a few more. I really don't think it should be merged. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 03:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Consider me excited about that expansion. Prime Blue (talk) 10:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Series Page

What with Kid Icarus: Uprising coming out soon, and nintendo's plans to make Kid Icarus a more "Recognizable" brand, I think a page for the whole Kid Icarus series would be appropriate.206.248.167.220 (talk) 22:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)