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Copyvio in an FL

Hi, I handled an OTRS ticket about List of United States Navy ratings earlier which resulted in me removing a sizeable chunk of the text as a copyright violation. The text appears to have been there since at least 2009, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention since you have OTRS access and you're an FL director, in case there are any other issues that need attention (it's an old FL—promoted in 2007). Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll look at it later and if need be, list it at WP:FLRC. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 04:33, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Was the rest of the list all right? I really don't want a list with copyvio problems to have the star on it, and I'm sure you don't either. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 15:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello dude, sorry, I completely forgot about this. I'm away from home at the moment, but hopefully will be able to get to it some time tomorrow. I'll put it on my to-do list! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nominated at FLRC. Looks a little tired round the edges, and being four years old it'll do no harm to re-visit it. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:31, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ta muchly for the peer review. Would you mind casting your eye over the shiny new article, to see if there's anything else amiss. Thanks! U+003F? 14:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to get to it tomorrow, am away from home at the mo, cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done, good luck!

FLC notes

In general, there are a lot of old, stale nominations with little or no support that I will close soon if nothing changes. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay dude. I'll get on to it tomorrow. Third thing on my list of to-do's when I get home. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 09:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Capped the hurricanes comments, revisiting Scream characters now. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done some more. The Scream FLC isn't ready. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've reviewed and supported Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of De La Salle University people/archive1, so if you or Giants could close this that would be great. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all the Ipswich article work amongst other things :) JCJ (talk) 20:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! Not sure how much longer (beside the last 30 years) I can keep supporting Ipswich though! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Couple FLC notes

I see you have other FLC-related matters to deal with at the moment, but when you get time there are a couple housekeeping activities that need to be looked at. First, your comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of De La Salle University people/archive1, the oldest active FLC, appears to be at least partially resolved. Second, you double-opposed at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of ministers of the Universal Life Church/archive1 and another FLC that was failed. One is enough for me to know your opinion, and doubling up makes tracking everyone's viewpoints more difficult than it has to be. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 20:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See above on my list. I'll try to get everything tomorrow. Sorry to double-oppose. Perhaps I felt so strongly that despite giving up my own time and energy following an oppose, nothing good came of the rest of my comments. I'll fix that now. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In opposing my featured list nomination, you highlighted several issues with the article that need resolving before it can be given this status. I am working on all of these, but I need something clarified: where you write "I don't see where the non-charting releases are referenced", I'm presuming you mean I need to put a reference next to every 50 Cent release that hasn't charted, to prove its existence and/or whether it was released as a single or not. I apologize for taking up your time, especially if I've made an massive error of understanding as to look stupid, but I need to know exactly what needs to be done to the article, so I can improve it as much as possible so it can, eventually, become a featured list. Thanks! Sufur222 (talk) 16:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You got it exactly right. And no need to apologise for asking questions, I'm here to help! All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Left vs. center in year columns of tables

What's the consensus on that? Left-aligned? Center-aligned? Is there a consensus for one way or another? I ask because I nommed IBM Award for FL...it's left now, but another editor has suggested it be center. I based my decision for left on J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award which uses left and was FLed...years ago. Has the consensus changed to center since then? Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 20:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, there really isn't one. When you use the row scope parameter, it automatically centrally aligns it. Using "plainrowheaders" in the class syntax will default back to left aligned. I'm not fussed either way. The only real candidate for any particular sort of alignment is big numbers with lots of digits that need easy comparison, these should be right aligned. Otherwise it's really down to a matter of personal taste. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons

Yeah I've made minor changes to the lead and will sort it properly at some point. Never did like that infobox. Maybe I'll even add sorting when I work out how the hell to do it right, or can easily swipe it from another list. Right now though, I'm hitting the budget airline websites. Mmmm, Munich during Oktoberfest. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Montana athletes

Left you a couple questions on this FLC. Thanks. PumpkinSky talk 20:12, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Will get over then when I can. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Back to you and you forgot one question. PumpkinSky talk 20:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went to one of my "table fixing people". Width of each section's table is now the same. Pls review when you have a chance. Thanks for looking at my list. PumpkinSky talk 21:33, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PeeJay2K3

I am glad I left another message as I totally misread the fouth edit as another revert missing the bottom half of the diff. But mission accomplished and in a couple day the article might be stable again with the help of one or two outsiders. Agathoclea (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this list know that it will be appearing as the main page featured list on September 12, 2011. You can view the TFL blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured list/September 12, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured list directors The Rambling Man (talk · contribs), Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) or Giants2008 (talk · contribs), or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 06:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IBM Award

I have addressed most of your concerns. With regard to the formula, I offer several possible avenues Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 16:56, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Responded. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Time paradox

Hi, I wondered if I could ask you to review the discussion here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bootstrap_paradox#Examples_from_Fiction and the recent edits by the participants on the article and present your views on the matter. Thanks Jasonfward (talk) 14:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey RM, this one probably needs to be closed as well. Too many outstanding issues I believe. I am sorry that my activity in FLC has deteriorated a little. Blame it on a fucked up connection. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like that's been addressed! The Rambling Man (talk) 23:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A favour

Good morning, could you keep an eye on Jamie Griffiths. I had some time to kill the other day and saw it was in a bad state, so I expanded it a little. Since then an IP has been removing content and returning the layout to what it was initially (obviously they don't believe in paragraphs). I've warned them twice and am a bit surprised that I haven't snapped, considering how royally screwed Argyle are. I hope Griffiths is good. God knows we need some quality and cutting edge right now. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 08:17, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Consider it done. No worries. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see this page is surprisingly low on quality. Seeing that you are a better spell-checker than I, would you mind checking after my work? I am planning, in a few hours, to start on a major overhaul on that page to become better structured. Since the Copa Libertadores page is a GA, I will base the article on that with significant modifications since the competitions, albeit serving analogously the same purpose, are different.

Do you think others will mind or will this be another case of people regressing and interrupting work just to keep things as they were? Digirami is already destroying the Santos FC page that took so long to update just to spite. Strawberry on Vanilla (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you plan on making a major overhaul, I would start by discussing it on the talk page. I'm happy to copyedit your work, but you should seek a consensus before making big changes. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Potential sockpuppet?

Greetings,

As you would know, a certain editor (User:Strawberry on Vanilla) and I seem to be getting on each other nerves as of late. To me, this seems a little bit like deja vu. I have this suspicion that he is a sock of User:SuperSonicx1986, better known to most people as User:Jamen Somasu. You dealt with him before (see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jamen Somasu). I recently opened an SPI case on the matter, but it proved inconclusive. I have since found (I think) a bit more evidence: another suspected sock of SS1986 (User:Chocolate on Vanilla); his statement here (specifically, the first sentence) sounds extremely similar to one made here. I don't know if you see a connection (aside from his overall behavior, perhaps), but I'm feeling incline to reopen the SPI case. I thought I would give you a heads-up, just in case. Cheers. Digirami (talk) 18:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quack. —WFC— 21:35, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so. If, indeed, it quacks, then indef block seems the obvious solution. I'm too "involved" to do that though.... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Based on my previous encounters with SS1986/Jamen, the connection seems pretty clear. TRM, could you revisit Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of NK Maribor seasons/archive1? I'm not sure which of your comments have been resolved. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 17:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quack indeed. I can't believe I missed it (probably cuz it was a totally different team). Not shocked tho. — KV5Talk • 01:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotecting Santos FC

Greetings,

Now that we know that other editor in the content dispute concerning Santos FC is a sockpuppet, can you please unblock to make some necessary changes? Thanks in advance. Digirami (talk) 21:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ping. Theleftorium (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I saw, thank you for the ping. Will get to you once my energy returns. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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FLC noms

Hey, I remember a "suggestion" from earlier that each nominator shouldn't have more than two noms at FLC. Has this changed? I couldn't find an answer on the archives. I'd like to nom List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Anil Kumble after a couple of fixes and have another couple of lists in the pipeline, so being able to put up two noms at a time would be good. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the instructions – "Users should not add a second FL nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed." – so it's best to avoid multiple nominations, predominantly because they may all suffer from the same issues which would be time-consuming for reviewers to continually point out. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I don't know how I missed that prior to looking at the talk archives, so sorry about the redundant question. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 08:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No worries at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discogstyle

Hello TRM. I am developing Toni Braxton discography for an FL nomination and have a small question. Should we really follow the WP:DISCOGSTYLE guidelines and format the tables in a discography, according to it? I actually did, and I find it to be unappealing. Can I revert it back to the previous style (like Mariah Carey albums discography or Madonna albums discography?) Thanks, Novice7 (talk) 04:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Novice7. Per the tag at the top of DISCOGSTYLE, it's merely a "proposed policy, guideline or process". I don't know where the project stands on agreeing that there's consensus to follow it, but in the meantime, no-one can "enforce" a proposed guideline. What we can do, for featured lists, is enforce the manual of style since that's one of the criteria. I see no problem in using a recently promoted discography as a template for future discographies, especially since the project hasn't got agreement on DISCOGSTYLE. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks RM. Well, I think WP:ACCESS/MOS:DTT is the reason why tables were formatted in a different way. I'm going to follow the old format and MoS. Thanks again. Novice7 (talk) 07:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've stuck this up for Peer Review. Would you mind casting your eye over it? U+003F? 17:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would love to. See you there. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:32, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had a go at expanding the History section. Would you mind having another look? Thanks! U+003F? 18:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will and sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Will promise to have a gander before the weekend. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

THC FAC

Hi there, thank you so much for your brilliant edits to the article. I think I've addressed all the other stuff Ruby2010 has brought up, although I may well have missed something. What do you think? cya Coolug (talk) 10:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look, and no worries on the edits I made. I saw the movie for the first time a week or so ago, so it was interesting work! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'd really appreciate any comments on how you think the article looks on the FAC. If you get the time to do so it'd be really cool. Coolug (talk) 07:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dashes

If you know what you're doing, they're the easiest problems in the world to spot. The other stuff is what's hard. :-) Thanks for noticing my efforts, and please keep up your good work as well. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More BS

More BS PumpkinSky talk 11:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now I know why so many people avoid featured processes and/or leave wiki in droves. My list is up for over a month and now Reywas and Violet (who hasn't said squat for weeks) come out of nowhere and raise a ruckus over stuff everyone else was fine. This is bunk. I'm about to withdraw this nom. I had several Montana FLs planned but it's not worth the crap. No wonder wiki has the horrible reputation it does on there among non-editors. When I told people I know I decided to give editing a try they were like "Are you joking?". Now I know why. My stutterers FL only took 2.5 weeks and was smooth. What's going on in this one is ridiculous.PumpkinSky talk 19:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well that would be a pity. Clearly people who come and go and who have different interests and different fields of expertise will have different opinions on various nominations. That's what's happened here. Don't withdraw, just let the conversation pan out. You don't need to do anything until a consensus is reached in any case. And please remember we should always assume good faith on behalf of everyone commenting, there's no reason to suppose that it's anything other than a misunderstanding or just a case of helping people to see it from your point of view. Withdrawing won't help that at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't going to be a consensus--two distinct camps have developed and it's now third from the bottom. The whole thing has been a waste of my damn time.PumpkinSky talk 19:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it has been. And as I said before, consensus has to form to change the status quo. Otherwise it stays as-is. Sorry you're so upset by this but as I tried to explain above, once you're outside of the criteria, it's down to more personal opinions. My advice is, as ever, to stick with it. Leave it for now, let others discuss and come back in a few days. No rush. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:32, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are lists that have differences, that's part of what one has to deal with on the site. The key for whoever's working on the list is to work with the differences and make the list the best that it can be. Instead, I just see you complaining and threatening withdrawals and leaving to multiple people. I don't know about others, but that attitude makes me not want to review future noms of yours. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:34, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. I won't be submitting anymore and withdraw this one. Wiki drives off another user. Problem solved.PumpkinSky talk 19:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, like I suggested above, it's best for the whole process that you don't do that. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:39, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, truly, but too late. Some people can put up with all the crap on wiki, many seem to outright enjoy it, but I'm not one of them.PumpkinSky talk 19:40, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can understand your frustration but perhaps just leaving it open for a few days to allow the community a chance to discuss it would be beneficial to all of us? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll leave this one open I guess but I have no desire to participate.PumpkinSky talk 19:45, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's absolutely fine. It gives the rest of the people participating to get to some kind of agreement. Thanks for your patience. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:45, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PumpkinSky you really seem to be taking things far too personally. One thing to remember is that there isn't a rush on these things and that discussions usually lead to improvements. Rambling Man, thank you for maintaining a calm perspective and helping him out here. violet/riga [talk] 20:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And do please take a look at the changes I just made to the article lead - I've tried to show what I was meaning. violet/riga [talk] 20:25, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In recognition of your efforts...

The Reviewer Barnstar The Australian Baseball Barnstar
The Multiple Barnstar
For your efforts in assessing the condition of List of Major League Baseball players from Australia and providing constructive and ultimately necessary criticism thereof, I hereby award you the Reviewer Barnstar. That your efforts resulted in the promotion of the first Australian- and baseball-specific content to Featured status, I hereby award you one of the first three Australian Baseball Barnstars.  Afaber012  (talk)  21:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To say I'm touched would be a succinct overview of my feelings herein. No wuckers, I enjoyed the list, and more power to the Australian/baseball intersection domination of the universe! Cheers dude! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revolutionary Question

Hi, I have an important question. In our Wiki, we had approved (with consensus) that every user should have more than 75 percents of the votes to be an admin (In English Wikipedia it's 70%). All of our sysops had been an admin with a bigger than 75% of the votes. Currently there is a RfA voting and the nominated user has a percentage between 70 & 75. The problem is here that some of our bureaucrats said he may be an admin with a percentage more than 70! I know this is very unsound, but I wanna know if they do this and the user became an admin with a percentage less than 75, then what we can do? 30% of the opposites are the admin, and the NPov-nullity of the user was proved with many discussions, but it seems that our bureaucrats want to neglect all of the rules and make him an admin. If it happened, where can we go for protest? Can we discuss it with a Steward and want him to judge this problem instead of our bureaucrats? Beforehand thanks 178.131.116.193 (talk) 18:22, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I don't think this is a question for a steward. Your own wiki should use consensus to determine whether this is the sort of outcome you want. On en.wiki, we have a reasonable amount of trust in 'crats, and usually when exceptional circumstances occur and promotions etc take place against the current expected norms, there's a reason for it. Most importantly is that there's a transparent discussion between the 'crats that allows the community to understand how a decision has been reached. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately we have only 3 'crats and just one of them is active! In fact, the nominated user wrote this in one of the opposed admins that one of the 'crats would agreed to consensus with 70%! This is very unfair, 'cuz the real percentage was 75 before of the voting stated! So there isn't any solution, is there? 178.131.116.193 (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's certainly nothing I can think of that I could help with, particularly as this issue is not on en.wiki. Sorry. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:00, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus at List of castles in England

List of Test cricket centuries scored on debut

Thanks for the offer, not sure if/when I'll be nominating it though. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 00:05, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, I've responded to the comment on sourcing to EB, could you take a look? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Boo

Yes, I know, I've been slacking recently. Might possibly have something to do with the arrival of SecondSonofBencherlite (talk · contribs) in July, followed by a need to work frantically in August and September to make up for my unpaid paternity leave (the joys of self-employment). Still, I knocked off a couple of articles yesterday from the list awaiting me at "Operation Anglesey" and perhaps will rejoin the FLC / TFL fray at some point. Right-ho. Hope all is well with you. BencherliteTalk 13:48, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, real life takes priority, glad to hear you're doing well! And always nice to see your lurking around the FLC/TFL crowds... Moi, I'm okay, lots of changes going on in my real life, moving house, changing job locations etc, but generally positive! The Rambling Man (talk) 13:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pod suggestions

Hi TRM! I'm in the process of trying to find Online Ambassadors to support each of the classes for this term, and I want to recommend a few to you: Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Theories of the State (Erik Olin Wright) and Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Architectural Design V(Jim Sullivan, Meredith Sattler). If you're up for it, please check out the Memorandum of Understanding which sketches the expectations for Online Ambassadors this term, and then you can sign on to one or more classes and get in touch with the professor(s).

If there's another class you'd rather support (or additionally support), feel free! We're shooting for at least about 2 Online Ambassadors for each class.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 14:50, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]