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English spelling?

Is there any depth of feeling for recognising an English spelling of the town's name, for instance "Dunleary"?

It seems unlikely that Dún Laoghaire would be the busiest port in all of Ireland. I would suspect that either Dublin port or Larne would be busier. Is there any way to verify?

Cpm

Irish Central Statistics Office figures for 2002 in the Republic show that at just under 20 million tons of shipping movements it's a long way behind Dublin (119 mio. tons) and Rosslare (48 mio. tons). Counting number of ship arrivals, at 987 it comes 4th behind Dublin (7,586), Rosslare (2,146), and Cork (2,060). -- Arwel 22:57, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)
All true, but DL specialises in ferry traffic from the UK, without the ability to handle freight (apart from lorries). Where is it rated in that traffic - Dublin Port has moved up, but has it stolen traffic from DL or added to it? Also, I recollect that there's a busy freight port in the Warrenpoint/ Greenore area, but the articles don't really confirm this - any info? Folks at 137 22:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

anglicized pronunciation?

I don't regard /dʌn ˈlɪəri/ as an anglicized pronunciation of Dún Laoghaire. I regard it as a pronunciation of "Dunleary". Just as many people call Rath Luirc "Charleville", the English name persists. The fact that Dunleary obviously derives from Dún Laoghaire is irrelevant. Eighteenth-century Hiberno-English speakers would have pronounced "Dunleary" domething like the Irish /duːn leːrɪ/, but it's the English version whose pronunciation has evolved. I know there is a limerick:

There once was a man from Dún Laoghaire
Who pronounced an interesting theoghaire
that the language of Erse
Has a shortage of verse
as the spelling makes poets so weoghaire

but I think this dates from the 1920s when Irish placenames (and limericks) were new and interesting. jnestorius(talk) 14:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Layout

Allie, I know that Doctors differ and patients die etc - but I don't think grouping the photos at the bottom improves matters. One or two up above might break up the solid block of text we now have. Also, the Infobox seems to be a bit truncated.

And as you can see from the photo here on the right, is not the least bit distracting! But if it was any smaller you couldn't read it... (In the case of the Dún Laoghaire article I have no vested interest as none of the pics are mine!).

The street scene photo and one of the Harbour shots would look great placed in the main bulk of the article.

(Sarah777 22:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

  • Hi Sarah. Maybe try moving one or two of the pics back up, so. The initial problem was they were in a groupbox which caused them to stream down the left side of the page in one 'lump'. I'll have a go at it again, and maybe take a look at the infobox ... - Alison✍ 22:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Better! I've tried to match the sizes (infobox and pic) and bring the top of the infobox to the top (usual position)- I think we're getting there!! (Sarah777 23:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

  • Can we do something about that nasty (no offence) panorama of the promenade? It's not a great photo and it's taking up way too much of the page. - Paul —Preceding undated comment added 00:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]
Not sure why photo of promenade is 'nasty'; will leave its inclusion or exclusion up to others. The Wiki-TOC often creates graphically unsound 'trapped' whitespace; however, in articles with an infobox and multiple images, using a right TOC will often create graphic logjams, as will dictating a TOC-left with a runaround rather than the whitespace. What I've done is place the photos in the same section as the subject matter to which they refer. This seems pretty fundamental. If there are too many in one section, that may mean that the section is over-illustrated relative to the rest of the article. Cynwolfe (talk) 23:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Evocative Prose

I felt it necessary to remove the following passage, but as it reduced me to tears I think it should be reproduced here:


Most anglicised town in Ireland?

Is Dún Laoghaire, or Kingstown as it evidently still is to the local establishment, not just the most horridly anglicised town in Ireland, the entire island? It is eternally shocking, every evening I walk through the town on my way to the pier. York Road; George's Street; Carlisle Pier; Kingston Hotel; Royal Marine Hotel; Royal National Lifeboat Institute; Royal St. George Yacht Club- not forgetting the newly-rebuilt monument to a British monarch that cost €500,000. The list is endless. Meanwhile, the entire history of Dún Laoghaire before 1821 seems to have been forgotten in this royalist cult. So, what revisionist agenda is in place in Dún Laoghaire that my Irish tradition and my Irish culture is all but ignored in modern-day Dún Laoghaire? And do these defenders of what is effectively royalist Dún Laoghaire in 2007 think they are being "open-minded" when they are simply ignoring all traditions in Dún Laoghaire except the (much newer) royalist one? That, of course, is really what they mean by "open-minded". And make no mistake about it. One last thing: the governing authorities of Dún Laoghaire really believe they are intellectually capable of holding a 'Festival of World Cultures'? 193.1.172.104 23:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a lot of truth in what you say...except that I've never heard anyone actually call it "Kingstown" in normal conversation! But you aren't suggesting that the 'Festival of World Cultures' shouldn't be held? (Sarah777 21:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]
Hate to restate what is clearly written at the top of the page, but this page is solely for discussing improvements to the Dún Laoghaire article; it is not for general discussion about Dún Laoghaire. Feel free to discuss such topics elsewhere. --Kwekubo 02:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well said! Here here! (Sarah777 20:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Info box

Any reason why the info box was partially removed? Wiki01916 01:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. If no reason was given in the edit summary you can simply restore it as the removal is suspected vandalism. (Sarah777 04:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]
OK, I've restored it. LOL! at the culprit
Wiki01916 06:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sheet! as my Granny would say - I am prepared to dismiss the vandalism theory!!(Sarah777 10:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]
And I notice the box was chopped in April and in a town of 250,000 potential Wikipedians only spotted by you. I guess the demographic must be technology averse. Figures. Sarah777 10:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Trivia

Good bit of tidying, I will save parts of "trivia" here for the record, and in case anyone wants to use some as bases for better material...:

  • There is an anchor, recovered from the wreck of the mailboat RMS Leinster which was torpedoed over the Kish Bank in 1918, located adjacent to the Carlile Pier, overlooked by the National Maritime Museum of Ireland. Another memento exists in the Lion House of Dublin Zoo- a bench which had been located on the deck and floated away when the ship sank with huge loss of life.
  • Dún Laoghaire is the setting (with Dublin) of the novel 'Strumpet City' by Irish Author James Plunkett
  • Dún Laoghaire is mentioned in the 2007 film, "P.S. I Love You" where Holly meets Gerry Kennedy at Wicklow Mountains National Park and reveals that she's putting up at a B&B here, referring to it as Dun-Lao-ge-hairy and he corrects her that it is Dun-Leary.

SeoR (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunate timing to remove the entry about the RMS Leinster A postage stamp commemorating the event will be issued in two weeks time. So I'm adding it back as history ClemMcGann (talk) 23:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I think the editor removing the Trivia section had their reasons, as it was very long, but most of its elements have now been rehoused appropriately in the article, which is the best answer. And the right-up-to-date points re. Library and Senior College are good to know. SeoR (talk) 05:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Policing and criminal activity

A new section "Policing and criminal activity" has been added. I doubt its value. It just refers to the Harbour police, who are limited to the harbour area. and there is nothing about criminal activity. ClemMcGann (talk) 23:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True - a sentence on the Harbour police might belong in Boating, Marina or even Ferry, but it doesn't need it's own section with a misleading header. Autarch (talk) 12:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm deleting it. There could be a place for the Harbour Police. Perhaps we need a separate article on the harbour. Instances such as the medal award to the Harbour policeman for a rescue could find a place. ClemMcGann (talk) 15:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tag

Should that improvement tag remain at the head of the article, or has it been improved enough by now? Hohenloh + 14:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looked at the article and i don't really see the need for it there myself. Perhaps the introduction is too short, or possibly the article is in need of more citations? though it doesn't contain requirements for any.Andymcgrath (talk) 19:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:The harbour in Kingstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland, in about 1895 - Option 2.jpg to appear as POTD soon

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Dún Laoghaire in the 1890s
An 1890s photochrom print of Dún Laoghaire (then known as Kingstown), a suburban seaside town and county town of Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown County, in Ireland. A major port of entry from Great Britain, the town is situated about 12 km (7.5 mi) south of Dublin city centre. The town's name derives from a fort ("Dún" in Irish) built by Laoghaire, a 5th century High King of Ireland.Image: Detroit Publishing Co.; Restoration: A. Cuerden
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photo

hi there,

after looking at google maps I came to the conclusion that the photo shows mainly the coastline of Glasthule. I took a lot of photos between James Joyce Tower and Dún Laoghaire harbour with a higher quality than the one used here and I'll upload more of them to Wikimedia commons... but I'd be really happy about opinions (better: reliable sources) about where the "boarders" between Sandycove, Glasthule and Dún Laoghaire are because I'd like to be able to categorize and use these photos correctly.

I'm not sure if this is the best place to discuss that topic (better suggestions are welcome) as this photo is used in many other articles as well, but I'm afraid that none of the authors of these articles would read a discussion page on commons...

--YvonneM (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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