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Template talk:Infobox aircraft#New version in sandbox

Ping, re the above. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Protection...

Can you full-protect my user page thanks to these catty sockers? Thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peperell book

G'day, would you mind swinging by the Piper Aircraft article and checking some of the "cite needed"-tagged stuff to see if it's in Peperell and Smith's Piper book? Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 10:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Eagle Air (Tanzania)

A tag has been placed on Eagle Air (Tanzania), requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

  • It is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. (See section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Wikipedia has standards for the minimum necessary information to be included in short articles; you can see these at Wikipedia:Stub. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
  • It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. SajjadF (talk) 22:50, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Eagle Air (Tanzania)

A tag has been placed on Eagle Air (Tanzania) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. SajjadF (talk) 05:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Eagle Air (Tanzania) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Eagle Air (Tanzania) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eagle Air (Tanzania) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. SajjadF (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MSW Votec 232

Evening MilborneOne,

A while ago you started this page. I've just been looking at the Votec collection in the latest Jane's and was a bit surprised that the 232 was not mentioned, even in its summary of the company history. However, they do include the 322 and give details which seem to match those in the 232 article: reg of first aircraft, date of ff, span, accommodation etc. Is it possible there is a typo in our article's title? I don't have the JAWAs cited in it to check, though the local library probably does. It could be that Jane's have muddled 232 and 322 at some point, or perhaps we have. I've yet to grasp the MSW numbering system, though I guess there is method to it. Any thoughts on the right name? Cheers,TSRL (talk) 16:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could be my mistake, I dont have that Jane's anymore I borrowed it from a company library which I dont have access to anymore, I will have a look around and see what I can find out. MilborneOne (talk) 15:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agh just noticed that HB-YJY is listed as a MSW Votec 322 in the official register http://www.bazl.admin.ch/fachleute/luftfahrzeugregister/index.html?lang=en&lang__=&lfrSucheDetailKnz=HB-YJY I have moved the article! MilborneOne (talk) 15:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that! I'll fill in some of the newer variants derivatives; there are tandem and side by side two seaters around.TSRL (talk) 15:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Allison V-1710

Probably safe to unprotect the Allison V-1710 now, the IP is running out of uncited specs sections to 'adjust'! Seems all quiet over there now. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done MilborneOne (talk) 12:53, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AirTran Page Notice

Hi! Can you delete this page notice as the HQ has moved to Dallas and the Orlando one is closed so this notice is actually false, Thanks! Kairportflier (talk) 03:31, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done MilborneOne (talk) 08:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You! Kairportflier (talk) 21:07, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:68 1-2 Brown Street, Literary Arts Program, Brown University.jpeg

Forwarded Mark's email as requested. Hopefully it's enough- Atrivedi (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, if you follow the procedure and send it to permissions-en@wikimedia.org then one of the OTRS team will review it. MilborneOne (talk) 18:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent- thanks for letting me know! I forwarded the message as instructed. Atrivedi (talk) 19:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 2012

Hi MilborneOne. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Sangalore, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. I'm kind of surprised to find myself having to explain this to another admin, but as is reflected right in the template you used, the criterion " only applies to cases where the deception is so obvious as to constitute pure vandalism." Beeblebrox (talk) 23:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK please yourself then, zero google hits false information in the infobox an image not related. MilborneOne (talk) 16:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The image is one we already have of the river this city is allegedly on the banks of. Google hits for cities in India... well let's just say that's not a good meteic. It may well be bunk, or it could be that there is simply no content in English that Google recognizes as being related to this settlement. It's certainly not about pleasing me, it would have been simpler to just do as you suggested and delete it. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes you need a second opnion rather than just use the admin tools, oh just for information it was speedy deleted by another admin following an AfD. MilborneOne (talk) 12:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, MilborneOne. You have new messages at Anir1uph's talk page.
Message added 18:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Anir1uph | talk | contrib 18:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport

Can you please protect Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport. There seems to be a constant edit war going on and it needs to stop. Thanks so much! Kairportflier (talk) 02:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You! Kairportflier (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

S C H Davis

Do you know whether or not this man was born with a different surname as it says here? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No it was my mistake it should be Davis, sorry about that. MilborneOne (talk) 12:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pemberton-Billing P.B.1

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

British Caledonian

Hi, There are a number of IP users that are listing no notable incidents on British Caledonian. I am pretty sure its the same person as all the ip's are also editing Dan-Air. I have placed a notice on a talk page. I was wondering if you can help please? Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the other project members have removed the non-notable accidents and tidied up, I will keep an eye on it, I presume its the same hopping IP who never gives an edit summary. MilborneOne (talk) 18:16, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks the one. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 15:35, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The IP user has come back and put the incidents back. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note - I have reverted and left a note on IPs talk page, if he/she dont stop we may have to see about protecting the article. MilborneOne (talk) 19:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, i didnt want to revert it myself and get myself in an edit war. --JetBlast (talk) 19:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linking airline destinations in the table

Hi. I am really against linking of destinations list in an airport article. Could you please point out the discussion for which it was agreed to link them? Thanks, — Abhishek  Talk 14:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Airports) you may need to search the WP:AIRPORTS archive to find the related discussion. It may be easier to start a new discussion on the airports talk, I am sure somebody in the project will remember the reasons why it was done. MilborneOne (talk) 19:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tomi1988a

This user keeps adding lots of fair use images to his sandbox and his userpage. He has been warned by me and another user about this on his talk page and he is ignoring. I have removed them a number of times and he is just restoring them. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 15:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have removed them from his/her sandbox and left another note, we may need to use some admin action if they restore them again. MilborneOne (talk) 19:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, wasn't really sure what to do. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 19:38, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Dispute resolution discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding the process is getting spiral and exceedingly time-consuming. Content disputes can hold up article development, therefore we request your participation in the discussion to help find a resolution. The thread is "Talk:India".The discussion is about the topic Template:Largest cities of India. Thank you! --Mrt3366(Talk?) (New thread?) 10:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[A sip at the tea and a deep breath] You deserve more respect than I probably have rendered. I am sorry for moving your comment on the RFC page without notifying you, don't get mad please. I would like to take this time out (mostly owing to the fact that my net is working smoothly for the last few minutes) to explain that I didn't mean to disrespect your input in any way nor did I have any disingenuous reason behind the move. I simply wanted to keep the RFC straight-forward and simple. I, at that moment, thought that although creating new headings in an RFC is not a bad thing at all, if everybody started creating their own headings then the page will inevitably turn into another unmanageable imbroglio. I again implore you, please do not take offense to that. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 15:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request

We are having a discussion about the need to blurr non-free logos at Talk:Google_Chrome_OS#Non-Free_image_use regarding this image and its use in Google Chrome OS. I know you have some expertise in copyright rules, so could I impose upon you to have a look at the issue and add your opinion as to whether these logos are covered under fair-use or need to be blurred or otherwise removed. Thank you for your time. - Ahunt (talk) 12:36, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

West Hartlepool War Memorial

Hello,

Thanks so much for your input on West Hartlepool War Memorial - both in terms of edits and feedback on the talk page.

I'm just finishing up the last of the copy edit for the article and have a quick question for you - do you, by chance, know what the article name is for this citation? Or, was there no specific article name - just News in Brief?

<ref name="Times42801">{{Cite newspaper The Times |articlename= News In Brief |section=News in Brief |day_of_week=Wednesday |date=17 August 1921 |page_number=5 |issue=42801 }}</ref>--CaroleHenson (talk) 14:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt have a title it was just a small section of text describing the donation. MilborneOne (talk) 16:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar is awarded to MilborneOne as a token of appreciation of his extensive contribution to the Project.
78,000+ edits wow, keep going Sir. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 16:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for barnstar - thought appreciated. MilborneOne (talk) 17:02, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on differentiating reference syntax in text window

Hi MilborneOne-- based on the village pump discussion on giving reference syntax a unique color to differentiate from other text while editing, I've opened up an RfC to expand the audience on the topic. You are welcome to participate anytime. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 00:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Key Lime Air

Hi. A user requested unprotection of a number of articles at WP:RFPP and Key Lime Air was one of them. I unprotected it since it's been a year without any issue, though I kind of feel that I probably should have run this by you first given the problems throughout 2011. Obviously if these resume then the article can be reprotected immediately, I have it on my watchlist as well now. Thanks. – Steel 14:39, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK no problem but we will need to keep an eye on it. MilborneOne (talk) 16:10, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Musée de l'Air protection level

Hi Milb1, could you have a look at the protection level at Musée de l'Air please? I think it is only supposed to be protected from moves, no edit windows appear so we can't get in!! Cheers. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 15:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ta, I was confused there for a minute! I spotted it after an edit request on the talk page (to remove an aircraft that is not there). The museum it apparently is in is the 'Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace d'Aquitaine', looks like quite a large collection that we don't have an article on. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 16:35, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Braathens aircraft

Thank you for your comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Braathens aircraft/archive1, which have all been seen to. Could you at your convenience reply to the comments, cap the comments or support the nomination. Thanks, Arsenikk (talk) 13:41, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What Is Going On?

In this reversion, you state "none of them appear to be notable as the list has been challenged". What does this even mean?

-- DanielPenfield (talk) 22:34, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment, your addition has been challenged and you now need to go to the Sikorsky talk page to gain consensus from other editors before you can add it. MilborneOne (talk) 11:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I understand now... The claims that it was "uncited" and that the presidents of Sikorsky are "not notable" are in fact red herrings... You and your pal just don't want a non-regular editing your article at all—a phenomenon that seems to be on the rise. The nonsensical "appeals to policy" were just to provide a veneer of legitimacy to obscure the "WP:I just don't like it!!!" Message received loud and clear! -- DanielPenfield (talk) 01:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think you need to read WP:NPA. MilborneOne (talk) 09:22, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What you may feel is a "personal attack", I feel is calling out the truth. As Wikipedia has gotten older, the number of editors who are quick to wholesale revert legitimate edits for no other reason than they're from someone who has never edited "their" article has risen. Each article seems to have its own cadre of self-appointed "guardians" whose sole purpose is to prevent edits from accounts they don't recognize. Of course, given the mind-bending inference "none of them appear to be notable as the list has been challenged", your veiled allegation above may just be a pretext to have me banned for simply pointing out that neither you nor User:BilCat ever had any intention of following the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle to begin with, starting with the first reversion, which apparently didn't even merit an edit summary, and followed by the haughty "your edits are "not really needed" and "need to take it to the talk page". Given this "circling of the wagons", I assume that editing anything related to avionics will be summarily reverted without comment by you, User:BilCat, and whoever else is in your clique. You and your buddies should create a "this article is not to be edited by outsiders" template so at least I can identify if there's anything left that you'll deign to "allow" me to edit. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 10:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If I may butt in, a couple of thoughts. Firstly if the OP feels so passionate about this content, the place to resolve this by reaching a consensus is the article talk page, as already noted. Secondly, that being insulting and intemperate are poor strategies for promoting an opinion.TheLongTone (talk) 10:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I came here looking for an explanation of the twisted statement that "none of them appear to be notable as the list has been challenged" given in the second revert of my edits, not to convince anyone of anything, because it had become apparent at that point that there's no way the "guardians" of the article were ever going to accept anything I wrote for the article (or any avionics article, for that matter). I'm not that good at reading between the lines, but I can now separate the false appeals to WP:CITE and WP:N from the core of the matter. I know now that when someone "appeals to policy and guidelines" in the same breath as stating that my otherwise legitimate edits are "not really needed" what the reverter is really saying is WP:I just don't like it; the only "consensus to be reached" is the consensus that the regulars won't accept edits from non-regulars. There hasn't been an "opinion to be promoted" since the second revert. End of story. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 10:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan Azza Air Transport Antonov An-12 crash

Hello as you now that on October 7 2012 a Azza Air Transport Antonov An-12B flying on behalf of the Sudan Air Force crashed near Khartoum with 13 deaths. A twin engine failure was reported. I like to now if this accident is notable to have it own article. --Grandfallout (talk) 11:48, 8 Ocotber 2012 (GMT)

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