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Practices on Clean Production Preparation and source Hygiene Use a strip cup to check for mastitis Cut and groom hair around the udder Tie tails of animals when milking Sick animals should be milked last and their milk should not be mixed Hygiene of the milker The milker should be healthy,have short hair always,avoiding smokinh when milking The Milking Environment should be cleaned after every milking the animals should access the shade the shade should be permanent or movable Utensils Should be seamless as well as made of aluminium or stainless Animals that produce a lot of milk need a longer dry period, so that they can recover the nutrients they lost during the lactation period. During the dry period don’t give your animal grains, provide sufficient mineral leak as well as vitamins. The nanny should be given clean water adlib as water, takes a greater percentage in the milk. Priority 1 (top) |
Nutrition data error!
Carbohydrates=sugars=lactose ; as far as milk is concerned. Then why are they listed saperately. Can someone correct it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.33.208 (talk) 17:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Edits to lead - August 2012
User Eptified edits to the lead on August 1 2012 are difficult to understand. He or she removed a paragraph that had plentiful citations, claiming it was 'uncited material.' I checked and verified that the content is supported. Assuming good faith, I ask the user to clarify why the whole para was deleted, or identify specific content that is in dispute? - so we can work to improve it.
Please note that WP:VNT guidelines state: Wiki contributors may not remove sources' views from wiki articles simply because they disagree with them. ApostleVonColorado (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, after going over the material again, I see the problem here. My apologies, ApostleVonColorado. The error I made was due to the fact that the material makes a series of claims and then lists a supporting footnote to a citation that doesn't support or reference any of the claims at all (citation number 4) and then it lists another series of facts and then there is another citation which actually supports the former claims as well. I think the way this paragraph has been cited is confusing and not ideal.
- However I think that the main problem with the lede section of this article is that it contains irrelevant information about dairy products, not milk, which are not the subject of the article. Dairy products are described in the Dairy product article. Eptified (talk) 20:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I re-arranged the text. Milk is the essential aspect of dairy farming. An encyclopedia covers many aspects of one subject/topic; therefore, an encyclopedic article on milk will refer to dairy some place or the other. Ignoring or avoiding this essential aspect will weaken the article.
- The lead, per WP:LEAD, must summarize key aspects of the main article. The main article refers to the term dairy over 60 times. Including the term in lead is therefore fine. ApostleVonColorado (talk) 21:16, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that the milk article should mention and discuss dairy products, however I don't think it is a good idea to discuss facts about dairy products in the lede instead of facts about milk. For example, instead of listing statistics about how many people consume dairy products it would make more sense to list how many people consume milk. And then the facts about dairy products can be discussed in a section devoted to them instead of the lede of the article so that readers may drill down into that particular aspect of milk if they wish to. After all, given any consumable good there are usually many other products that are produced from them. The article about rice should mainly contain information about rice, not risotto, even though risotto requires rice to be produced. If someone reading this article wants to know about dairy products then they can just go to the Dairy product article. Eptified (talk) 22:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- The lead reads: 6 billion consume milk and milk products. It doesn't read: x billion consume dairy products. Past wiki contributors have done what you are suggesting, ApostleVonColorado (talk) 22:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
More information to be added to Milk
http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/mar/dairy.htm
Quite a lot of info on there not found on the Milk page... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.144.154 (talk) 23:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- That page wouldn't pass the reliable sources criteria. Rmhermen (talk) 00:37, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Equality of information
This article fails to really show both sides of the milk controversy. It trivialises the growing contention, amongst health professionals, that milk is actually not good for the body. It also fails to note the bias in many articles claiming that milk is good for you- often funded by companies looking to make a buck (e.g. the dairy industry). Another failing of this article is the ethical section. It is very short, trivialises the issues and does not discuss some of the issues in full - e.g. the rape of cows every 12-16 months.
I have completed a Bachelor of Science in Nutrition Therapy and have done research into this topic and I feel that more facts should be explored in this page. I will admit that I am vegan, but this just a result of the information that I have looked into and not something that makes the facts biased.
Just very FEW of the many sources of relevant information for this article can be found here:
http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/calcium-and-strong-bones http://www.vegetarianvictoria.org.au/cms/infosheets/2veggoveganfaqs.pdf http://www.notmilk.com/ http://www.livestrong.com/article/248912-foods-that-leach-calcium/ http://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/dairy-calcium-myth.php
I hope that this is taken seriously, as many people come to Wikipedia for information. This is especially relevant to parents and young children. I would hate for children to grow up without all the information relevant to their health and that of their children down the line.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherryblossomcomputer (talk • contribs) 23:30, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- Can you find any sources that would be considered adequate per WP standards? Gandydancer (talk) 23:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
This information does not clarify that vegan sources of milk are available
This article could make it a lot clearer that there are some sources of milk which would be accessible to practitioners of veganism. When it talks about sources of milk, it tends to mention animal sources, but it does not clarify that some milk sources are from plants, such as rice milk or soya milk. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:04, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, it makes the opposite clear - that milk comes from mammals. There are substitutes for everything I suppose, but doesn't mean it should be in the article. Student7 (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Error to chart under Types of Consumption
The table listed under the heading Types of Consumption and under the sub-title Food product for Humans has an incorrect title. The title of the table currently reads Top ten per capita cow's milk and cow's milk products consumers in 2006, however, the source of that data has entitled the table Per Capita Consumption of Milk and Milk Products in Various Countries. This is significant because the way the title reads right now implies that Canada is among the top ten countries in terms of per capita milk consumption. However, in actuality, it is just amoung the top ten in the list that Professor Doug Goff has provided on his website.