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A1: Yes, you can add and remove images but you might want to take some points into consideration before doing that. The images were carefully chosen in balance to represent the text in a neutral way from all parts of the country. All images have also been thoroughly checked for their copy right licenses while some are added to a switch code so that each time the server cache is refreshed, the image changes automatically to the next one listed in the code. Image removals and replacements are in most cases likely to be reverted due to such reasons. Please consider starting a section regarding the image on the article talk page and discuss how it should be added so as to get a consensus. See also Talk:Pakistan/Archive 13#Positioning, adding & removing images. Q2: Can I add --- and --- details? or Why was my text removed?
A2: All text in Wikipedia has to be verifiable through reliable sources. Any content that does is not published in an independent reliable source can be removed. This article is specifically maintaining a much higher standard after it has been worked on in detail in such terms to keep it from becoming an original research. Also note that while your additions are notable they still might be reverted per WP:WEIGHT. WP:UNDUE and WP:NPOV. In case of such reverts, please use the talk page to discuss the content Also search or take a look through the archives listed on the talk page to see if that has been previously discussed to prevent a discussion going in circles over time. Q3: Why no subsection for --- or ---?
A3: Please see WP:WEIGHT and WP:UNDUE. Everything related to Pakistan can not have a separate section as it would be undue to give it a mention at length. However, most related topics' main article is linked to in the article and the topic covered per its due weight. The main country article has much broader scope about the country rather than specific issues which might probably be occurring at a specific point of time of the country's history or a small part of it. If you still think some thing can be added to further improve the article or that subsections can be further improved, please start a discussion at the talk page with your proposal. Q4: The map of Pakistan is incorrect!
A4: The dark green area shows the total area constituting Pakistan while the area shaded in light green denotes Jammu and Kashmir – territory that is claimed, but not administered, by Pakistan. This geographic detail is per neutral point of view and does not adhere to the Pakistani, Indian or any other government's descriptions of territory. Q5: Terrorism/Kashmir/any other controversial topic should be mentioned more!
A5: Such topics are already covered in the article in terms of their actual issues or effects on the country. If you think any detail is missing, use the talk page to discuss that. Bluntly adding such details to the main country article is generally considered inappropriate. |
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birthplace of famous stoner 94.174.219.192 (talk) 22:56, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Not done: - no details for any edit. Begoon talk 01:07, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Troop contributions
Secret of success changed the article to say that Pakistan sends the second-largest troop contributions to UN peacekeeping missions. This is incorrect. Pakistan's 8,541 troops are indeed more than sent by any other country. Bangladesh's total contribution is greater because they send more policemen, not more troops. See also Talk:Pakistan/Archive 16#UN Force Contribution. Thus I've reverted his edit. Huon (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- My deep apologies for the misunderstanding. I should probably gone through the archives after the first revert. Just a doubt, why are only the no. of troops mentioned and the total number of all military personnel ignored? Secret of success · talk 14:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think the policemen are military personnel, and while I have no idea whether the "UN Military Experts on Mission" are, they don't change the ranking anyway. Thus the troop number seems most relevant to the article's "military" section. Huon (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Kashmir
I think to understand this dispute, we will need to go back to the early history of 1947. Just to have an idea I am pasting a portion of article from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir. "Kashmir was neither as large nor as old an independent state as Hyderabad; it had been created rather off-handedly by the British after the first defeat of the Sikhs in 1846, as a reward to a former official who had sided with the British. The Himalayan kingdom was connected to India through a district of the Punjab, but its population was 77 per cent Muslim and it shared a boundary with Pakistan. Hence, it was anticipated that the maharaja would accede to Pakistan when the British paramountcy ended on 14–15 August. When he hesitated to do this, Pakistan launched a guerrilla onslaught meant to frighten its ruler into submission. Instead the Maharaja appealed to Mountbatten[30] for assistance, and the governor-general agreed on the condition that the ruler accede to India. Indian soldiers entered Kashmir and drove the Pakistani-sponsored irregulars from all but a small section of the state. The United Nations was then invited to mediate the quarrel. The UN mission insisted that the opinion of Kashmiris must be ascertained, while India insisted that no referendum could occur until all of the state had been cleared of irregulars." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.36.164.228 (talk) 12:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to be aimed at improving the article. Do you propose any specific changes? Huon (talk) 23:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Current topic on mutilation of indian soldiers being removed?
A current topic has been removed by a user and clarification is needed on this. Power of 200 Million (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- I already told you on your talk page that (1) Wikipedia is not a soapbox and (2) any information added to the page must be backed by a reliable source, period. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
There was nothing in it of a soapbox nature i was merely stating the facts. Pakistan government summoned the indian envoy for an unprovoked firing on a outpost on sunday which resulted in the death of one Pakistani soldier. The indian government has summoned the Pakistani envoy for an attack which resulted in the death of 2 indian soldiers.
Pakistan media has stated that the mutilations of the 2 dead indian soldiers were carried out by indian army as propoganda against Pakistan. The Pakistan army has stated that if any soldier was killed due to unprovoked firing it would retaliate either immediately or at any instance in the future. Read the topic again before blanking it out completely, this is a discussion page not the article page. Power of 200 Million (talk) 19:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Even assuming that there are reliable sources for this, and even assuming that this has become a big deal, I don't see where this fits into a summary article on Pakistan. --regentspark (comment) 19:33, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- I did not mention anything about a summary article, I did however say that it could be mentioned in the page. My issue is why was my topic removed from the discussion page. And to answer your comment, No its not become a big deal. Pakistan rarely concerns itself with india, majority of Pakistanis do not care much for india and consider it third world and poverty stricken. Power of 200 Million (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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