User talk:Andy Dingley

Nadolig hapus

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"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

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Message from D3323

Creepy dolls is part of killer toy. If you keep deleting Creepy dolls one more time, you will ban from editing in the wikipedia, for life!!!

See User_talk:D3323#Creepy_dolls Andy Dingley (talk) 22:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Usage question

Hi! I could use another opinion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Is "an HTTP" or "a HTTP" correct?. Could you take a look? Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm English so I don't get an opinion on en:WP. Just look it up in Strunk & White or Chicago. They might even agree. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welsh Not? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Twin-turbo

Talk:Twin-turbo#Terminology: "twin" and "sequential" looks to me to be right up your alley, care to lend a hand? Andrewa (talk) 19:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cantaloupe2

Hi Andy. I was just skimming the ANI board regarding the issues with Cantaloupe2. You can count me as a fourth (or probably tenth really) editor with similar experiences of hounding, battlegrounding, etc.. I will participate in the RfCU in any way that is helpful. DGG has worked with this editor across multiple disputes with various editors and may be helpful as well. You'll see from the edit-warring post I put in the RFCU that he was previously warned by an admin of potential admin action if he did not stop hounding me, which did not dissuade him. I think his edit-warring over adding a personal blog with negative content where I have a disclosed COI is the most obvious and compelling evidence one could ever expect to get of Cantaloupe being a bad-faith editor, considering his track-record of contesting sources.

This is a significant retention issue and I hope it can get resolved before more editors are discouraged from editing here. I know there are at least a couple articles I would be improving if it weren't for a desire to avoid him. I have no experience with the dispute resolution processes, so please let me know if/when/what may be needed from me as it goes down the process. CorporateM (Talk) 17:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Related comment: Hi Andy, are you interested in participating in the RfCU drafting process (User:Dreamyshade/RFCU)? YuMaNuMa made a good-faith addition of your username due to involvement at AN/I, but I don't know if you're explicitly interested in being included. If you'd prefer not to be listed, feel free to remove yourself (or let me know and I'll remove you). Thanks! Dreamyshade (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm disinclined to. Cantaloupe2 is one of those editors who is prepared to edit far into the realm of their personal ignorance, and thus causes considerable damage. However WP is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and such editors are thus constitutionally protected. I support your attempts here, but I've rarely seen them succeed. Certainly count me as a supporter, but I doubt there's much I can add. Maybe re Sheldon Brown or Bicycle wheel (AndrewDressel has had more involvement there). Andy Dingley (talk) 03:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it sounds like you might be interested in just being listed under "Additional users endorsing this cause for concern" and leaving it at that - is that right? Dreamyshade (talk) 03:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep an eye on it and might comment, certainly list me as a supporter, but I really don't have the enthusiasm for pushing the minority view that WP:COMPETENCE is needed. There are just too many admins out there who find it easier to judge by counting policy citations. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Web development

Why did you undo my revision today to Web development? The industry section is filled with incorrect, unsubstantiated facts which I attempted to correct. --Matt Schwartz (talk) 18:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article needs work, admittedly. However conflating dynamic websites in general and web 2.0 is hardly an improvement. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I changed more than just that. And the point of "web 2.0" is sites became dynamic. It's the first sentence of the web 2.0 article: "Web 2.0 was coined in 1999 to describe web sites that use technology beyond the static pages of earlier web sites." I was trying to clarify what I think was the intent of the original author. I put back my edits without the reference to web 2.0. --Matt Schwartz (talk) 19:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dynamic web sites aren't the same thing as Web 2.0. Although 2.0 sites are dynamic, not all dynamic sites meet the meaning of a web 2.0 site: content editing via the web interface (rather than through the filesystem) and thus opening the route to user-generated content. Historically, dynamic sites (publishing pre-2.0, publisher-supplied, centrally-added content) pre-date Web 2.0 by several years.
WP is never WP:RS for other WP articles. Much of WP is just wrong, and it shouldn't be propagated, to avoid propagating such errors.
It doesn't matter what either of us think, because nothing should be in these articles unless it's reliably sourced from off-wiki, and from outside the heads of WP editors. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Saab 96 freewheel

Hi Andy, I agree that my addition was uncited, as is most of the material in the Saab 96 article, however it is correct. Here's why: Until the implementation of oil injection in the model, oil lubrication was delivered by mixing 1 qt of 2-cycle oil with eight (US) gallons of gasoline. So, a high throttle setting causes an increase of gasoline-borne lubrication and increasing RPM. Unfortunately, the reverse doesn't apply. High RPM requires but doesn't achieve the commensurate level of lubrication when decelerating or descending a hill with engine braking. With freewheeling, the engine returns to idle under those circumstances and receives the lubrication required as it is not under load from the drivetrain. The V-4 retained freewheeling not for the reason cited here (or as frequently claimed for gas economy—a function of throttle setting), but to improve its emissions, which become worse when engine braking is in effect. Having owned a 1964 Saab 96, a 1963 oil-injected Saab GT850 (a.k.a "Sport" in Europe), and a 1968 four-stroke Saab V-4, when I was an MIT student, I was well informed on this subject. Prior to my post, I looked for some citable information on this topic. My contribution was simply an attempt to explain what the previous entry means, i.e."To overcome the problems of overrun for the two-stroke engine,..." which is not explained—it could refer to the noises and backfiring that can occur from two-cycles or it could refer to oil starvation while under load or both.

I should answer your question, "how does a freewheel allow idling at low rpm?". Think of riding a bicycle, the freewheel allows your legs to "idle", rather than be dragged around by the speed of the wheels through the drivetrain.

I'll continue looking for a better citation before taking a better run at this. In the meantime, if you find my explanation persuasive, you could consider restoring the thrust of my contribution. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 01:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was a bit heavy-handed in reverting that.

The Saab freewheel (and for that matter, the Rover freewheel too) needs an explanation, because these are rare devices and they're not generally understood. However your addition was uncited and I found it confusingly unreadable. In particular, it didn't distinguish clearly enough between engine speed, transmission speed and throttle opening. Especially, which of these is causing the demand for lubrication, and which of them provides the lubrication supply? Andy Dingley (talk) 11:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, Andy. I spent a lot of time on line in a futile search for a good reference. The Freewheel article has no refs, whatever, so I agree that some help is needed. My brother may have a relic, known as a book, with some citable material in it. He, too, was a Saab nut. I'll be out of town foe three weeks, so Ill try to help out upon my return. In the meantime, if you can compose something clearer and mark it^{[citation needed]}, that might not be amiss! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 14:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you already did! Thanks! User:HopsonRoad 14:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Carmen Ortiz

The issue over inclusion of Linus comments had been raised to the Noticeboard for discussion by another user. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Carmen_Ortiz Request your attention. thanks Prodigyhk (talk) 04:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Steam engine

Hi Andy, "The steam engine was an essential component of the Industrial Revolution" is written in past tense. So it describes the development form a pre-industrial way of life to a stage, when almost everything was produced by engines. That stage already was reached about eighty years ago. And from the first third of 19th centrury to the first third of 20th century, the steam engine was essential, indeed. (copy from Talk:Steam engine) --Ulamm (talk) 17:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree your first sentence, except that this wasn't the Industrial Revolution. The first industrial revolution broadly pre-dates the steam engine. It encompasses water-powered textile mills, ironmaking on a large industrial scale, particularly when it started using coke rather than charcoal, canal transport and also industrialisation of mining. Of these four, only mining is making any use of early steam power. By the time the steam engine starts to make any significant contribution (mid 18th century), even if we include early crude atmospheric engines as "steam" engines, then the industrial revolution has already been up and running for half a century, using water power. The claim that "the industrial revolution couldn't have happened without steam" (which is what "essential" means) is made demonstrably false as soon as you look at the first big silk mills in Derbyshire, or at Coalbrookdale. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:13, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Water power was used for some important steps of technical progress, e.g. water powered hammer works in metal production. But just textile production, before the use of steam engines, in many regions was mainly cottage industry. Cottage spinners and weavers could live from their handicraft before steam age, but they lost competition, when the large plants began to use steam engines. (That's the economic history of my place of birth)--Ulamm (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Your chronology (at least if it's applied nationally) is out. You're missing the era of the large water-powered mills (which is why I mentioned Derbyshire in particular). They pre-date steam, but they still made hand-spinning uneconomic. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:10, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When in 16th century steel production in hilltop sites decayed in favor of sites, where water power was available, that's an early industrial feature, before industrial revolution.

I won't deny the inventions of Derbyshire, but they didn't become an existential danger for continental textile producers before 1800.--Ulamm (talk) 18:30, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon setter

Hi Andy, Just a quick note to say I've just reverted the link you put in at Gordon Setter........the link goes to 'black and tan' as in a beer; the breed was previously known by that name because of the dogs colour combination, although I'm sure some of them may well have driven owners to the 'demon drink'. It did make me smile on a very wet and miserable afternoon in the middle of trying to do the dreaded tax returns though! If you disagree and still think it should be linked, no problem! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That was a deliberate link. We don't have an article on "black and tan (concept)", although the beer article is also a reasonable attempt at explaining this. It's certainly better than a link to the disambig page. There is a significant cultural meaning to the phrase, at least in the UK & Ireland. Clearly, given embarrassing product adverts by Nike and Ben & Jerry's, it's not known in the USA. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No probs, my mistake, I reverted back, apologies!

SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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