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The article Kuğulu Park has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

fails WP:GNG

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Notability for biographies

Regarding this edit, it would appear to me that it is you who does not know what "notability" means here on Wikipedia (which is something very different than in "real life"). To see what makes a person notable, please have a look at WP:BIO and WP:GNG (and the specialized guidelines linked from those two guidelines). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 09:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Use some common sense: do you really think someone who has been a CEO of a billion-dollar company for six years isn't going to have enough media coverage to merit a WP entry? There's plenty of media mentions. It doesn't amount to a lot of biographical detail, but it's easily enough to justify an entry. Podiaebba (talk) 11:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Then why, if it is so easy, do you wait with adding adequate sources until somebody tags the article for missing sources? Doing so from the start will save you (and other editors) a lot of trouble. --Randykitty (talk) 11:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well I thought it was enough, and Berat isn't a priority. I mostly at this point just wanted to record my finding out who his father is, showing that it's not the founder of the Albayrak Group but the journalist, but was hindered by there not being an entry yet. Podiaebba (talk) 11:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Halk Tv

History section of Halk Tv article is entirely citing to a single source which is Today's Zaman, and you are still removing the single source tag. [1] Please do not remove the tag again. --84.211.119.140 (talk) 20:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, it has two sources - two different Today's Zaman articles. And if you want people to respect your tagging, try getting an account. Podiaebba (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't see any second or third party source so it has a single source. Also I suggest you to read this essay. I've never heard that users should have an account to see respect. --84.211.119.140 (talk) 20:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Given that you're now actively vandalising the page (removing sources, claiming "one source" when there's three), yeah, well done for proving the point that people who can't be bothered to make an account are "human too". Podiaebba (talk) 21:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did simply ask you to add second or third party resources to the section. Now I can see you did add them. Thank you for your efforts. But I do suggest you to be civil as it is a wikipedia policy and one of the five pillars.--84.211.119.140 (talk) 21:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You were using the wrong tag, and wrongly saying it was a "single source", and... never mind, I guess we got there? Now why don't you show some civility by giving yourself a pseudonym? It's a bit rude to insist on talking to people without giving yourself any sort of label, I think. Podiaebba (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for all your excellent articles on Turkey. You've been editing here for less than two weeks, but have already created dozens of well-written, referenced articles. Well done! Captain Conundrum (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I keep seeing "who or what is that?" situations arising from the Gezi protests, and when I figure it out, I want to write it down. Podiaebba (talk) 11:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The article Ciner Media Group has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No independent refs. No refs in Turkish wiki to steal. No claim of notability.

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Discussion at Talk:2013_protests_in_Turkey#Hagia_Sophias_as_Mosques

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I kindly ask you to discuss large changes (including restructuring and forks (sub articles)) on the talk page first. This way other people can weight into the decision. Thanks. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 00:31, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

OK. Podiaebba (talk) 12:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reliable medical sources and Treatment/Counter-measures for Tear gas

Hello Podiaebba,

I fully appreciate the point you make in the edit summary [2]. But there is a real problem here. I don't know whether or not you're familiar with our requirements for use of reliable medical sources for any therapeutic claims. Since this content clearly falls into that category, I feel it can't really remain in the Treatment section. However, as I've argued on the talk page, I do feel it can reasonably be retained under "Counter-measures".

Please note that by reverting I don't wish to show any disrespect for editing (or spark an unwanted edit war). Regards, 81.157.7.7 (talk) 16:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your courteous message. I see your point about reliability of sources - but I don't see that putting the text in a different section makes any difference there - people are just as likely to try and rely on that info in that other section. The text should make clear the reliability of the sources, and then people have to make up their own minds. Or else we should remove it altogether. Podiaebba (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for for the thoughtful replies. I'm really not sure. You might like to raise the question here: Wikipedia_talk:MED#Vinegar_and_tear_gas. Best, 81.157.7.7 (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]