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Serial killer
I see no reason why he isn't a serial killer. There is no rule stating that someone cannot be both spree and serial. He fits the qualifications for both. He killed 17 people from February to October 2002. That's not just a spree. Yes, the Beltway sniper attacks was a spree but adding it with the earlier crimes then it is serial as well.WikiOriginal-9 (talk)
Hello, WikiOriginal-9. See Talk:John Allen Muhammad/Archive 1#"Spree killer" or "serial killer". As that discussion and the Serial killer article address, being a serial killer is not just about the number of people a person has killed. If it were, then a soldier who has killed plenty of people would automatically be a serial killer. As for being "both," I don't think that it is common that a person is categorized as both, but the Serial killer and Spree killer articles make clear that distinguishing the two concepts is debated, and the lead of the Serial killer article currently states "however, cases of extended bouts of sequential killings over periods of weeks or months with no apparent 'cooling off' period or 'return to normalcy' have caused some serial killer experts to suggest a hybrid category of 'spree-serial killer'." We also address the serial killer or spree killer aspect in the lead of the John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo articles, which it seems that you saw and that is your reason for having started this talk page discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 02:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
On a side note: You should be careful when listing people at List of serial killers by number of victims; the media is often wrong with regard to what it refers to as a serial killer. And regarding your removal of "soldiers" there, that is not helpful, in my opinion, per what I stated above about soldiers. That article's text did not state that soldiers are never serial killers; it was accompanied by the wording "does not necessarily include." I'm betting that list is highly problematic, as somewhat indicated by the current tag on it. The "incomplete tag" should be removed, however, considering that such a list will never be complete. The only person here at Wikipedia that I know of who can help regarding these matters is Legitimus, whether he weighs in on this discussion or not. Flyer22 (talk) 02:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I added Muhammad's Military service record. I feel that his service record covering his 17 year of military service is notable to his article.
I added the dates of his service, his rank, his discharge, and his awards received.
All info pulled from Muhammad's US Army service record.
Ethnic selection?
Am I the only one who sees way too many Arabic names in the See also section with VERY little connection to the method, cause or scale of this case? Wikipedia is now part of TSA? Or do we now serve and protect? Le Grand Bleu (talk) 01:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
