Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 17
August 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 17, 2015.
Wikipedia:Destiny
WP:CNR with no association to functions of Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 07:08, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Keep but change back to what it was supposed to be, a redirect to Project Destiny for technical reasons that was changed for no clear reason-- SonicAD (talk) 07:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
'nam
Weak retarget to Nam, but I doubt its a plausible search term, whatever it means - TheChampionMan1234 04:42, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Strong Keep it is American English slang for Vietnam; and very plausible search term. Possibly retarget to the disambiguation page, because it could be the country or the Vietnam War. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:43, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Template:Translation attribution
- Template:Translation attribution → User:CFCF/Translation attribution (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete WP:XNR to an unused (no transclusions) userfied template. As it is userfied it shouldn't still appear from TemplateSpace -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:39, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Vice President of the Czech Republic
- Vice President of the Czech Republic → President of the Czech Republic (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I think this redirect is confusing. The target doesn't mention a "vice president of the Czech Republic" and I wasn't able to verify if that's actually a position. -- Tavix (talk) 04:07, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Foogle
There are several reasons why this redirect is not helpful, and could actually cause harm. For one, its target is so notable that getting the first letter incorrect in the title is very unlikely; the amount of page views in the last few days is very minimal. For two, several domain names using this word have been registered by companies other than Google; this redirect being in place gives readers the false expectation that "Foogle" and "Google" are directly related. And lastly, if this redirect exists for a long period of time, since third party web sites sometimes use Wikipedia to create mirrors of redirects, these sites could unintentionally start to mislead readers into thinking that the terms are one in the same; I mean, to this very day, thanks to a bad redirect towards Nintendo, several Wikipedia mirrors are stuck believing that the term Hujk refers to "Nintendo" since it targeted Nintendo for 7 years. Steel1943 (talk) 04:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget to The Architecture of the Arkansas Ozarks where a fictional character named "Foogle" is listed -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Foogle (disambiguation)
- Foogle (disambiguation) → Google (disambiguation) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There are no instances of the word "Foogle" on the target page. This redirect's existence could lead the reader to believe that Wikipedia has multiple article subjects named "Foogle" as its actual spelling, which it doesn't. (The only subject we currently have is a misspelling'.) Steel1943 (talk) 03:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Malaixiya
- Malaixiya → Malaysia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 马来西亚 → Malaysia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - unambiguously redirects readers to the content they're looking for, no rationale has been presented for deletion. (Nevermind that about a quarter of Malaysians are Malaysian Chinese who widely speak Chinese) WilyD 10:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED as is in an unrelated foreign language. --Rubbish computer 12:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:R#K5. This nation is close to China and likely to be a search target for Chinese viewers. The page views confirm its usefulness to at least some people. ~ RobTalk 18:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Delete.(Now neutral, given TheChampionMan1234's comment below.) Steel1943 (talk) 03:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC) Unlike some of the "keeper(s)" above, I believe that WP:FORRED, along with almost any other article-related policy, can also be applied to redirects to an extent. In this case, it seems that the word has no prominent use in the English language, and would this confuse readers looking up this term and not being redirected to the article presented in the same language as the redirect. Also, translations of terms that are non-English to their respective language articles is handled by Wikidata interwiki links; keeping these foreign language redirects targeting non-foreign articles compromises the usefulness of Wikidata and interwiki searches. Steel1943 (talk) 21:42, 7 August 2015 (UTC)- Delete with Steel1943, per my notvote at #Feilvbin, above. Si Trew (talk) 23:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Weak keep due to the nearly 1/4 of the population being Chinese -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- ...And how is this useful to those who speak English? Steel1943 (talk) 23:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- Despite our bad reputations, Anglophones are not all unilingual. And (although you seem to be unaware of this) some people speak English as a Second Language. WilyD 16:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- You just described the purpose of Wikidata and interwiki links. Having a non-English title built into the English Wikipedia as a redirect to an article in English rather than its "other language equivalent", in my opinion, causes more harm than good. Steel1943 (talk) 17:46, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- This topic has an affinity for Chinese, per the large minority population. See my other rationales for deleting non-English redirects based on non-affinity, and many other people's as well. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 02:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly a related language, albeit not official
- Update added 马来西亚 to the nomination. - TheChampionMan1234 03:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep The redirects have affinity to the target article. 25% is a sizable chunk of the Malaysian population --Lenticel (talk) 04:54, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Soda drinking
- Soda drinking → Soft drink (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
WP:NOTHOWTO. That, and Soda is a disambiguation page, and I really don't feel like drinking baking soda. Steel1943 (talk) 00:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Rubbish computer 01:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep A "Soda" when used as a name for a drink in ordinary English at least in the NE United States does mean a soft drink; it's alternative use when in conjunction with an alcoholic drink name, is "Club soda" or "Seltzer" or soda water" -- in all cases it refers to the production of a bubbly drink by dissolving sodium bicarbonate in water (or nowadays by pumping CO2 into water) . For examples of the usage see Google books for "give me a soda" DGG ( talk ) 20:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- That statement accurately supports the existence of a redirect by the name "Soda drink" (which I just created); however, this redirect is "Soda drinking", which is not the subject of the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 13:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 02:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per Steel1943's reply to DGG. Also, drinking baking soda would probably be exceptionally bad, both because of the violent reaction that would be experienced with one's stomach acids, and also because it's not a liquid. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Finite module
- Finite module → Finitely generated module (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Finite module" could mean a module that is finite as a set. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- In that case, keeping the redirect and adding a "see also" sounds like a good solution, assuming the finitely generated module meaning is dominant. mathrick (talk) 11:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 02:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Fallout redirects
- Garden of Eden Creation Kit → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Garden of eden creation kit → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- GECK → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nightkin → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nuka cola → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Radaway → Fallout (series) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It pains me to do this, since I love Fallout, but none of these concepts are mentioned at the target article. And since they're concepts present in multiple Fallout games, retargeting to just one of them doesn't make much sense to me. --BDD (talk) 01:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 05:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Musad'afin
Suggesting deletion. Apparently it's some sort of Islamic term, but I don't think it's a plausible redirect to "weak". Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:07, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - It looks like "Musadafin"/"Mustad'afin"/etc translates to something like "those who are oppressed", "those who are kept down", "the downtrodden", and so on. The redirect that we have now just isn't right at all. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per implausibility, and if it is notable enough for its own article per WP:REDLINK. --Rubbish computer 00:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary. General topic with no particular affinity for any language. And per the above, it appears to be the wrong target anyways -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Https en.wikipedia.org wiki Main Page
- Https en.wikipedia.org wiki Main Page → Main Page (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Http en.wikipedia.org wiki main page → Main Page (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely search term, why not just type "main page". - TheChampionMan1234 00:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - I really doubt these redirects are helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term, and completely unnecessary when this url can be typed into the top and reach it just as quickly. --Rubbish computer 00:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term. The url markups might cause some technical issues too. --Lenticel (talk) 01:07, 17 August 2015 (UTC)