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Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:David F. Simons

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A tag has been placed on Talk:David F. Simons, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Erik Prince

You reverted this edit, commenting failure of NPOV. It didn't look that way to me, the only defect I saw in that edit was that there was a typo which needed to be corrected (and I was waiting for reviewer permission to accept the change before fixing it). Prince's current occupation should normally have the lead, and the edit doesn't remove his controversial past. If anything, by removing "philanthropist", it moves it towards neutrality. Could you take a second look at that edit, please? Thanks, Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 23:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

My own third look shows a sentence I didn't notice as problematic in the lede: Blackwater was contracted by the US State Department for thousands of missions in Iraq and Afghanistan and its contractors have been linked to the killing of innocent civilians. If we take out that sentence, would the rest of the edit stand? I dislike losing the more current details of Frontier. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with updating the lead with information noting his work with Frontier. However replacing "philanthropist" with "controversial" and claiming Blackwater was contracted for "thousands of missions in Iraq and Afghanistan and its contractors have been linked to the killing of innocent civilians" violates NPOV. Meatsgains (talk) 03:12, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi

I did ping on the DJ's discussion page but perhaps you didn't see it. Full list of topics at Sigala, sources at "Sigala is" and "Sigala was" Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: Please keep this discussion on the article's talk page here. Thanks. Meatsgains (talk) 23:29, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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Need help

We need more neutral opinions here. Please help! Thanx! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Your prod

Meatsgains, I just undid your prod on Fletcher_Mulnix. I explained my reasons for doing so on the talk page. The short version of it is , the source referenced in the article states he's the 17 year old announcer for The Minnesota Lynx (Women's pro basketball team) and a backup announcer for the Timberwolves. That, in and of itself, is notable. Yes I know it wasn't in the article, but the source made mention of it. Thanks KoshVorlon 18:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I do not oppose removing the PROD tag given your reasoning. I took a look at the article after it was mentioned on BLPN and after reading through it, the subject appeared to lack notability. I didn't do any digging into the references. Thanks for the update! Meatsgains (talk) 22:02, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Meatsgains, what was the reason for | this edit . The source isn't a dead link and it appears to be reliable. KoshVorlon 15:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC) Please disregard this edit - Editing without coffee again and I though you removed the link to the article where they explained he was a 17 year announcer, you actually removed the 123-voice.com page (which I can't see due to my work firewall anyway). My bad KoshVorlon 17:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

The external link I removed is broken and notes "Page not Found" when I pull it up on my computer. Would you mind providing me the link that must be working for you? Meatsgains (talk) 15:41, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

@KoshVorlon: No worries! Got to get that first cup of coffee in first lol. Meatsgains (talk) 01:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

JunHong Lu's page

Hi Meatsgain, Thanks for your feedback. I have tried my best editing JunHong Lu's page according to WP:Peacock and WP:Coatrack and update the page. I hope you can point out specific area that not meeting any policies instead of revert the whole page. Appreciated. Thanks again for your effort and help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace n Mercy (talk • contribs) 14:07, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I suggest you take this discussion to the article talk page or the NPOVN post here. In doing so, we can discuss what content warrants inclusion to the page. Thanks, Meatsgains (talk) 19:34, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Help with Jarret Myer?

Hi there! I'm reaching out to see if you might have some time to look over my revised draft for the Jarret Myer article and, if it looks OK, move it to the live article? Another editor has already reviewed and given their OK, but have been offline since. As I noted in the RfC, I have a financial COI so I won't make edits myself. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 23:29, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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Kyle Bass: Fund Performance

Greetings, given your experience in WikiProject Finance articles and your interest in hedge funds, I wanted to flag a potential issue on the Kyle Bass page. The entire Fund Performance subsection contains speculative information about the performance of Hayman Capital that is not accurate, verifiable or necessarily relevant to a BLP page. The NY Post article cited as a source does not meet the NPOV standard for a BLP page and it does not share a source for its information.

I have flagged this on the Talk page for Kyle Bass and the BLP noticeboard but wanted to reach out to you, as well, given your stature in the community.

My name is Steele and I work at Hayman Capital Management, L.P., which was founded by J. Kyle Bass in 2005. My goal is to serve as a resource in support of Wikipedia’s three core content policies. I will not be making edits, but rather participating in the community discussions. SteeleatHaymanCapitalManagementLP (talk) 19:19, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

@SteeleatHaymanCapitalManagementLP: Welcome! First I wanted to thank you for messaging me and I am happy to help out in any way I can to get these issues resolved. I'm glad to see you are following Wikipedia policy and involved in community discussion. I noticed that you have addressed problems on the article's talk page and the BLPN. If you can, please breakdown your concerns with the current version of Bass' page and I will address them one by one. I have a couple other page's and discussions I am currently working on but will begin on this issue as soon as I can. Look forward to hearing from you! Meatsgains (talk) 23:46, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

@Meatsgains: Thank you for your note and for the welcome. I am happy to provide a breakdown of potential issues with the Kyle Bass Wikipedia page and look forward to working with you (and the rest of the community) to help address what is listed below.

I will respond to each of the points listed below however, if it takes me a few days to get back to you, please be patient as I am very busy. Meatsgains (talk) 00:14, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect source citation

• Ethics allegation (Barron’s source doesn’t contain this information, suggest removing): "Despite his early successes he has received criticisms for some of his investments both for their performance and for ethical reasons."

I don't see many reliable sources affirming the claim that he has "ethical issues", except maybe a few involving drug patent disputes, so I think we can get rid of that piece of the sentence. The other part seems to be well supported, so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the issue of "fund performance". The direct quote from the Barron's piece is:

"Bass’ track record of identifying global imbalances and profiting from them catapulted the unflappable former bond salesman to stardom,” causing him to be “viewed...as a visionary who had a clear-headed plan for investing in a world where economies have been wildly distorted by artificially low interest rates,” Bass had “had a dismal time of it recently in the land of investment. Suddenly, the former luminary can’t seem to get anything right."

Is something like this preferable? Meatsgains (talk) 00:22, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Celgene statement (WSJ source doesn’t contain this information, suggest removing): “Celgene also told the patent office that the CFAD had threatened to challenge its patents unless Celgene paid CFAD an unspecified amount.”

No source/unverifiable source

• Subprime mortgages (non-verifiable source, suggest removing): “Bass admits that he was tipped off by an investment banker from New York City while both were attending a wedding in Spain.” There is no easily-verifiable copy of this interview and thus it should not be considered a source for a BLP page.
• Challenging drug patents (no source, suggest removing): “His challenges drew criticism because he shorted the targeted companies before challenging their patents, thus bringing down their stock prices and making a quick profit.”
• Challenging drug patents (no source, suggest removing): “Bass later admitted that his motive was indeed profit, but insisted that he was not alone in this.”

Self-published citation

• Japan (self-published source, suggest removing): “For several years, Bass has been predicting impending financial crisis for Japan, describing its approach to financing debt as a Ponzi scheme similar to Bernie Madoff's investment scam. Most experts have disagreed with his analysis.”

BLP relevance

• The entire Fund Performance subsection contains speculative information about the performance of Hayman Capital that is not accurate, verifiable or necessarily relevant to a BLP page about Kyle Bass. The NY Post article cited as a source does not meet the NPOV standard for a BLP page and it does not share a source for its information.

I hope this list is helpful and I appreciate your help walking me through this process. Look forward to working together. SteeleatHaymanCapitalManagementLP (talk) 17:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

No problem! Like I said, I'm glad I can help. Also, I've broken the points listed above into subsections for ease of editing and discussing. We can now discuss content under each subsection. Hope you don't mind. Meatsgains (talk) 00:18, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I think breaking into subsections is a great idea. Let me know how I can further assist and, again, I look forward to working with you and the community. SteeleatHaymanCapitalManagementLP (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Always and for Real

I invite you to join in AFD discussion. --George Ho (talk) 20:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

@George Ho: Thanks for notifying me about the AfD discussion for Always and for Real. Meatsgains (talk) 01:01, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Merrick Garland

Garland hasn't been formally nominated yet so under our policy about bios of living people let's hold off claiming that leaks and rumors are true --In actu (Guerillero) | My Talk 14:23, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

@In actu: Works for me. Do you know when Obama is set to "officially" announce? Meatsgains (talk) 14:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

30 Minutes (11 AM Eastern Time) --In actu (Guerillero) | My Talk 14:30, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Meatsgains (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump

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Please comment on Talk:Jennifer Lawrence

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Merger discussion for International marriage (Japan)

An article that you have been involved in editing—International marriage (Japan) —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 78.148.77.86 (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2016 (UTC)