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May 24

3:10 Yuma (2007 Year)

I'll fix my Questions this Time ok.

While taking a shortcut through a canyon, the group is attacked by Apaches.

Wade kills the attackers and escapes to a Chinese laborer construction camp, where the foreman captures Wade because [Wade killed the foreman's brother].

Evans, William, Potter and Butterfield appear and regain custody of their prisoner, but Potter is killed in the process.

1. At the [Chinese laborer construction camp], did Wade get Captured by [Good Cops], [Dirty Cops], or [Random Vigilantes]?

2. [Evans, William, Potter & Butterfield] tried to Negotiate for the [Return of Wade], but did Anyone know that Wade's henchmen will Be coming soon?(67.187.181.37 (talk) 05:45, 26 May 2016 (UTC)).[reply]

Hey there! It appears the questions you're asking here (and similar ones above) are homework-type questions. Please note the Reference Desk is not an appropriate place to get assistance with homework. Otherwise, if you're simply trying to understand what happened in a movie, your best bet would be to watch the movie for yourself. RedLinkJ (talk) 21:55, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 26

classical music Composer

Who is the classical music Composer that composed the greatest number of compositions?--79.49.180.7 (talk) 14:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It would be hard to prove definitively who actually composed the most compositions, but Georg Philipp Telemann's name frequently gets floated as a contender for being prolific. --Jayron 32 14:06, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently Guinness agrees with that: [1] Rmhermen (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How Many Works Exactly Has Johann Sebastian Bach Created? puts the number of his preserved compositions at 1,128 but quotes an (unnamed) expert who thinks that only ten percent of Bach's output has survived. Alansplodge (talk) 20:10, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That "expert" was probably not willing to cop the flak of the establishment, who would scoff at such a suggestion. That some of Bach's output has not survived - certainly. But 90% is missing? - that's just laughable. Bach was incredibly industrious; it was barely possible for a human to have written as much as we know he did, let alone even twice as much, let alone 10 times as much. When he wasn't composing, he was apparently screwing: he had 20 children by two wives. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:37, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are you exclusively talking about humans? Or does sofware count too? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There were very few computers during the Classical eras. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 09:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Classical music says: "Classical music is art music produced or rooted in the traditions of Western music, including both liturgical (religious) and secular music. While a similar term is also used to refer to the period from 1750 to 1820 (the Classical period), this article is about the broad span of time from roughly the 11th century to the present day". The Quixotic Potato (talk) 12:59, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, the OP's question was "who", and a computer is a "what". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A computer programmer is a "who", and I blame them for whatever actions their software performs. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 14:04, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's one way to look at it. Is there any computer-generated classical-style music that's regarded as "worthy" of the genre? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I do not feel qualified to answer this question. Maybe someone else can? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 15:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See Computer music#Computer-generated music. It looks like Iannis Xenakis got into it a bit. But then, whether any music he ever wrote is "worthy" of his genre is debatable. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:43, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alien movie identification

I'm looking for a movie. I saw it in 1997, 1998 or 1999, on TV, so it must have been made no later than about 1996. My sense is that it was made in the early-mid 90s.

I remember nothing about the story, except that certain characters who appear to be humans turn out to be aliens who can transform themselves at will. The alien form is like metallic looking stick figures on steroids. They move incredibly quickly, while paradoxically not appearing to run particularly fast. By that I mean that when they run they cover a lot more ground than their apparent speed at any given moment would indicate. It's a very odd and somewhat unsettling effect. The only scene I remember reasonably clearly is at or towards the end, which is set in some Central or South American or Caribbean country (I think the rest of the movie was in the USA). There's something about a guy clambering over a wall or fence, then transforming into an alien, then running for his life at the previously described impossible speed across this vast plain.

That's all I remember. I always thought it was called "Stargate" or Star something, but I just sat through Stargate on TV and that was definitely not it. That clue may be a complete red herring, so treat it with caution.

Over to my ever-dependable colleagues. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 14:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TV Tropes may have some leads. Aliens Among Us or Invisible Aliens or Masquerade. --Jayron 32 14:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The first thing that came to mind with shape-shifting metallic looking aliens is Battlestar Galactica, as obvious as that might sound. Is that a popular enough trope to be in multiple sci-fi shows? RedLinkJ (talk) 22:04, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Still looking. I've looked at all sorts of lists, including the above suggestions, and I don't think I've missed it. Maybe I'm conflating multiple movies and getting the date wrong. The thing I'm mostly focussed on is the scene in which an entity who reveals his alien-ness by turning into a metallic being runs off into the distance across this expanse of land at least a couple of kilometres wide, and makes great headway in much too short a space of time for even Usain Bolt to keep up with him. I'm pretty sure his quickly fading into the distant horizon was the final scene, but don't quote me. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did you check this List_of_science_fiction_films_of_the_1990s too? Many of the articles linked to are stubs and not helpful, but if the title would ring a bell? ... --NorwegianBlue^talk 09:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I checked that, thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:13, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 27

2003 Indy 500 announcers

In watching a replay of the 2003 Indianapolis 500 on ESPN Classic, I noticed that they were showing the ABC video, but the listed ABC announcers were not heard. Instead, the announcers were Gary Lee and Larry Rice. Did they actually call the Indy 500 that year? Was their substitution on ESPN Classic a result of the controversy involving regular announcers Bob Jenkins and Jack Arute? (And if so, is it notable enough to include in the "Broadcasting" section of the race article?) → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 05:16, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Overtime in basketball

Overtime (sports)#Basketball says that in Euroleague Basketball competitions, overtime is not used for the legs of two-legged ties, except when the aggregate score after the second leg is a draw; but that only applies for Euroleague Basketball competitions, and then only since 2009.

So, suppose Team A plays Team B in a two-legged tie in a tournament where there's no such rule. Team A wins the first leg by 6 points. Near the end of the second leg, Team B is 2 points ahead and has the ball possession with only a couple of seconds remaining on the clock – not enough for it to score twice more for at least 4 more points. Does that mean that the wisest thing Team B can then do is deliberately score in its own basket in order to equalize the score and trigger overtime, so it can try to overcome the 6-point aggregate deficit during the overtime?

And has such a thing actually ever happened? In football (soccer), a similar thing happened during a particular tournament that had invented its own bizarre rules: Barbados 4–2 Grenada (1994 Caribbean Cup qualification). --Theurgist (talk) 23:51, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For greater clarity: "two-legged tie" is Eurospeak for "two-game total-point series". --69.159.60.83 (talk) 08:04, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, IP. This American had never heard that phrase before. Dismas|^(talk) 12:33, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that "Eurospeak" is better known as British English. Alansplodge (talk) 08:13, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That wouldn't work as it's the aggregate score that is counted and not a tie in the second game. In your example Team A would have an aggregate score of 8 points, from the two games, more than Team B. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 12:29, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In my example, Team A is, at this point, leading by 4 points on aggregate, so an own basket by Team B would make it 6 points, not 8; and it will level the score in that particular game.

Indeed, the aggregate score determines the overall winner of a tie, but the article implies that overtime is always played if the regulation time of the individual game ends as a draw, the only exception being two-legged ties (two-game total-points series) in European competitions.

That would mean that outside European competitions, overtime is used after the second game if either that particular game is drawn or the aggregate score is drawn. So, if, in my example, the score in the second game is level instead, then Team A would benefit by scoring in its own basket, as it would thus avoid overtime, lose the second game, but win on aggregate.

And if Team A has won by 4 points and Team B is now 2 points ahead, that's a situation very similar to the Barbados vs Grenada football match: Team B now has to score in either basket. An own basket is worse than a regular basket as it affects the aggregate score, but is still better than no basket at all which guarantees elimination.

Is all that true or not? --Theurgist (talk) 13:22, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 28

Andrew Lang

In Watchmen, during an interview, Ozymandias says that "I like eletronic music. That’s a very superhero-ey thing to like, I suppose, isn’t it? I like avant-garde music in general. Cage, Stockhausen, Penderecki, Andrew Lang, Pierre Henry. Terry Riley is very good. Oh, and I’ve heard some interesting new music from Jamaica… a sort of hybrid between electronic music and reggae". So, my question is who is this Andrew Lang? 2A02:582:C62:9B00:7C00:3F32:4202:855E (talk) 19:54, 28 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.48.25 (talk) [reply]

This is one of his tracks, and this is his Facebook page. A quick search doesn't immediately find anything that will get him through WP:MUSIC, I'm afraid. Tevildo (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Tevildo: are we sure it's this fellow? I suppose that Alan Moore would have chosen someone more famous. We might be missing something like an injoke. 2A02:582:C62:9B00:A544:AA99:7654:F004 (talk) 08:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite possible, but I can't find any other musicians of that name. Andrew Lang (of the fairy books) didn't write music, neither did anyone else listed at Andrew Lang (disambiguation). There's Andrew Lane (record producer), but his work (unlike Andrew Lang from Canada) isn't in the same genre as Stockhausen and Riley. David Lang (composer) is a possibility; his work is closer in style to the other composers on the list, so he might be the best candidate if we assume the text has a mistake. Tevildo (talk) 09:28, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

J S Bach

Further to the question above about the most prolific composer, I recall years ago hearing a story on BBC Radio 4 which I can't now pin down. The gist of it was that a music professor was walking in the grounds of a German university when he saw a piece of paper on the ground. Picking it up, he realised that it was a previously unknown J S Bach music manuscript. After finding several more, he followed a trail of them which led to the college boiler room. There he found the janitor using them to light the boiler, who said that he had been given them to throw away after an attic had been cleared out and had already burned several boxes of them. Is this a true story? Can anybody shed any light on this please? Alansplodge (talk) 22:35, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As that would have been a big news story, and thus easily found, it appears to be untrue. Also, why would there have been a convenient trail of papers? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the idea was that the janitor was carrying an open box of papers, some of which flew out. As neither you nor I could find any mention of it, I'll put it down as fiction. Pity, it was a good story. Alansplodge (talk) 15:09, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Bach manuscript was found in a shoebox in 2005, but it wasn't at risk of being deliberately burnt. Tevildo (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a vaguely similar story about C.S. Lewis's papers (that preface is by Walter Hooper—note that the article says that some people don't trust him). -- BenRG (talk) 03:45, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Google Books isn't showing me a preview for that, but it looks intriguing. I think the story that I heard was set many decades in the past - not many institutions have boilers that need to be kindled with paper these days. Alansplodge (talk) 20:12, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 29

Question about the movie Blue Is the Warmest Colour

Is the french movie and graphic novel Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour considered to be boderline softcore porn? It has alot of sex scenes. 50.68.118.24 (talk) 08:21, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

By some, yes. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:53, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The thing about porn is that everyone has their own definition, but that definition may be difficult to codify - they know it when they see it though. If the line is un-simulated sex scenes, then, yeah, it would seem to qualify, but there's lots of other definitions to use, including the intention of the director, artistic intention, and many more. Matt Deres (talk) 13:50, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

About the edit summary of the header above

The edit summary of the last edit on the topic above reads: ‎Question about a movie, but the header itself is: Question about the movie Blue Is the Warmest Colour... How is that possible!?!? OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 12:30, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was changed here,[2] but there was another edit immediately after it whose edit summary was the original title. There might have been an edit conflict, or it's possible the responder changed his own edit summary. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:46, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Man, do I feel stupid right now, I was so convinced it was filled in automatically, I forgot about the obvious... OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 14:00, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is filled in automatically, but it can be changed. Note that I'm now changing the edit summary, as a test, without changing the title. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:10, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Usually, in conversations like these, nobody changes it because it's about what's in the header. Doesn't mean you can't change it of course... Like I said (and I'm contributing to (the dutch) Wiki for over a year now), I feel so stupid... OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 14:28, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The IP himself would have to comment, but I think it's most likely that you both hit "save page" at almost the same instant, and somehow his edit went through too, but with the original header as his edit summary, which would have been created when he started to edit. As regards forgetting to sign, the signature bot typically autosigns IP's and brand-new users. For established editors, the bot's default behavior is to leave it alone. But sometimes we forget, and to get around that, you can add this to the top of your user page and/or user talk page: {{YesAutosign}}. That will cause the bot to generate a signature for you. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Let's try if it works, then... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxygene7-13 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And so it did! OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 15:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But what do you mean with: it's most likely that you both hit "save page" at almost the same instant? I never had any conflict with my editing and did not contribute to the topic above... OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 15:27, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's my best guess at this point. But it's a puzzler. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:59, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How would that change the summary, then..? OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 16:04, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My chrono-logic is this: Editor A begins to edit the section. Editor B begins to edit the section. In both cases, their default edit summary will be whatever it was before. Editor B changes the title, but the edit summary will not change unless he changes it. Editor B saves the changes. Immediately after, Editor A saves his changes. But I don't understand how that could work without an edit conflict arising. Unless this is just an occasional quirk of Wikipedia. Or Editor A might have indeed experience an edit conflict and then had to re-post, and somehow he kept the same title. That's why we need to IP to fill us in on what transpired from his point of view. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:09, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Edit conflict#Prevention says: "New since v.1.3 is CVS-style edit conflict merging, based on the diff3 utility. This feature will only trigger an edit conflict if users attempt to edit the same few lines". The two edits [3][4] edited different parts of the section so there was no edit coflict. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(after an actual conflict...) I wasn't talking about my edit-summary, I was referring to the last edit of the topic above! There never was a edit-conflict. OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 16:40, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

When you're talking about a specific edit that you've seen in the article's history, the best way to identify it is to give its URL, which you will find via the prev link for that edit on the article's history page. For example, this was the edit that changed the section title, and I believe Oxygene was asking about this edit, which came after it and whose edit summary would therefore normally show the new section title. --69.159.60.83 (talk) 19:13, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I was caught up in the biggest misunderstanding I ever had concerning Wikipedia. Absolutely MY BAD. Sorry guys, won't happen again. Thnx for all the provided answers. OXYGENE 7-13 (TALKPAGE) 10:58, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 30

"Wonder Years" setting

back around the time it aired I remember having the distinct impression that it likely was set in the NYC metro area, perhaps Long Island or maybe New Jersey...and Kevin regularly wore a NY Jets jacket (and one wouldn't particularly wear a jacket like this in Los Angeles due to climate)....it's clear the neighborhood used for the opening credits is indeed in the los angeles area (socal mountain in background)...the article doesn't suggest a particular setting...was it kept ambiguous in the show or was it ever referenced...I don't recall a particular reference...68.48.241.158 (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See point 5 here [5]

“

THE SHOW IS SET IN ANYTOWN, USA.

Though no specific location is ever given for Kevin Arnold’s hometown, that’s not the doing of the series’ creators. Neal Marlens wanted to set The Wonder Years in Huntington, Long Island—his hometown—and additional elements were also pulled from Black’s hometown of Silver Spring, Maryland. But it was at ABC’s insistence that no city or state was ever mentioned. Still, many eagle-eyed watchers have combed through the series for clues—like Jack Arnold’s license plate and Wayne’s driver’s license—that place the show in California, where it was filmed.

”

So it looks like you were basically right - it did have some NY feel, but it was largely filmed in CA, and it was intentionally kept vague for an "anytown, USA" effect. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

perfect, thanks! that's what I suspected...great show..68.48.241.158 (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 31

Eurovision singing

I constantly get an impression, that although lip synching with pre-recorded singing is banned at Eurovision, the singing of most performers differs from normal live performances elsewhere by being more acoustically pure, without wheezes, breathing pauses and pitch irregularities. Why is that? Do they use some sort of voice-refining microphones or what? --93.174.25.12 (talk) 15:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]