Talk:Giant panda

Q re "natural enemies"

Does the panda have any specific "natural enemies"? And if so can they be identified in the article (like "diet" is)? (Or is the concept "natural enemies" not a scientific descriptor of a species?) Thanks. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Under subspecies it says, “Two subspecies of giant panda have been recognized”. In 2012 three have been recognized. An article states, “The more recent panda population history showed that the panda population separated into Qinling (QIN) and non-Qinling populations at about 0.3 million years ago, and then the non-QIN cluster diverged into two populations, the Minshan (MIN) and Qionglai-Daxiangling-Xiaoxiangling-Liangshan (QXL) at about 2.8 thousand years ago” . I would edit the article by stating there has been three subspecies identified within the giant panda population where it says two. Since the article mentions these three subspecies it could also go into detail about their fitness. It can be added that “There has been genetic drift in these three diverse populations and their success varies. The success is expressed in the article that there was a very large decline in the QIN, a slight increase in the MIN and a large growth in the QXL . This shows that the giant panda is evolving and the success of the giant panda is rising with the genetic drift occurring in the populations. There has been an accumulation in positive mutations that became fixed within the population that aids in the success rate of the newest evolved group (QXL). “ Under classification there could be information added that gives evidence that giant pandas are bears rather than a lesser panda. In a phylogenetic study scientists compared characteristics of a gene that binds proteins during mitosis in a giant panda and a black bear. The results were the genomic sequence from Giant Panda is 521 bp, while the length of the sequence of Black Bear is 536 bp, which both contained 2 exons . This showed the genetic sequences were very similar. Walters.597 (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Dinosaurs

184.186.6.124 (talk) 18:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Actually pandas do have three known predators: jackals, snow leopards and yellow-throated martens, all of which are capable of killing and eating panda cubs. As for full-grown adults the only predators I can think of would be extinct large theropod dinosaurs like Sinraptor or Yangchuanosaurus (adult pandas measure around 1.2 to 1.9 m (4 to 6 ft) long, including a tail of about 10–15 cm (3.9–5.9 in), and 60 to 90 cm (2.0 to 3.0 ft) tall at the shoulder, while Sinraptor is around 3 meters (9.8 feet) tall and measuring roughly 7.6 meters (25 feet) in length, Monolophosaurus is about 5 metres long and Yangchuanosaurus' is considered 10.8 m (35.4 ft) long).184.186.6.124 (talk) 18:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

How would dinosaurs that died out tens of millions of years ago be the natural predator of a present-day animal? Sophie means wisdom (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Pandas birth

It is very odd how it happens And adult panda will sit up as if in a chair,then she pushed and the baby panda comes out with a-lot of water just like when a human gives birth.

pandas eat bambo brov — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.113.217 (talk) 09:16, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2016 - Taxonomic classification

Please change
Scientific classification:
[Nothing]

to

Scientific classification:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Family: Ursidae
Genus: Ailuropoda

Please refer to the Catalogue of Life page, here: http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e2e3653c631047a2e41328c4dc46151e/common/7bab383f007770375d1541673bce306d

160.111.254.17 (talk) 20:54, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  08:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Done  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  07:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2016

Citation #23 (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8861/bearbiteforces.png) is a dead link and should be removed. References to it in the article should have the [Citation needed] tag added.

Rlorenr (talk) 14:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Done -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 14:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Update lead?

Should the lead section be updated to reflect the IUCN's (very recent) reclassification of the panda as vulnerable? Lythronaxargestes (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2016

Still a endangered sepcies as Vulnerable species means a endangered species but not as bad as the endangered orange as the chinese goverment edited it to allow hunting and to make it extinct

198.52.13.15 (talk) 23:36, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Topher385 (talk) 01:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

In fact, the State Forestry Administration of China has officially responded to IUCN's reclassification, stating that from the point of view of conservation, the panda is still endangered， and announcing that the conservation efforts would not be accordingly lowered . This is clearly a proof against the current argument. And this anouncement has been added in the article. Greeneese (talk) 11:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Conervation Status

Should´nt the panda have a different picture for its conservation status? It is suppost to be Critically Endangered

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kianlolcat99 (talk • contribs) 01:24, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Reliable sources needed. Greeneese (talk) 03:27, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Conservation Status

The giant panda was considered endangered by the IUCN in the 1980s. Because of the fact that pandas reproduce so infrequently, it is very difficult for their population to recover from a low point.

One of the main reasons that panda populations have declined is habitat destruction. As the human population in Mainland of China continues to grow, pandas’ habitat gets taken over by development, pushing them into smaller and less livable areas. Habitat destruction also leads to food shortages. Pandas typically feed on several varieties of bamboo that bloom at different times of the year. The destruction of bamboo habitat is leading to shortage of food for pandas which comprises of about 99% of a panda's diet.

Thankfully, to combat this issue, the Chinese government has actively worked to restore and protect the bamboo habitat, and these measures have shown positive results. According to State Forestry Administration surveys, the panda population has increased since the Chinese government’s actions. Finally in 2016, the IUCN upgraded the giant panda’s status from Endangered to Vulnerable.

However, while an increasing panda population is good news for now, it is predicted that climate change will eliminate over 35% of the panda’s bamboo habitat in the next 80 years.

Rishabhsingh9512 (talk) 14:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 22:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

This is great:)

The article as a whole is great. Very informative and it seems as though everything is referenced properly. Hrm0815 (talk) 01:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

giant panda

they are black and white to blend in with the mountins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BDF1:3F00:B510:D90F:FC5A:6528 (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2017

The last two sentences of the first paragraph under "Taxonomy" should be removed: "The giant panda's closest extant relative is the spectacled bear of South America.[19] The giant panda has been referred to as a living fossil.[20]"

1. The giant panda's closest living relative is NOT the spectacled bear. Indeed this sentence contradicts the previous sentence. The panda split early in Ursid evolution, making it equally related to all other living bear species. Correct information and sources may be found on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear

2. The giant panda should not be referred to as a "living fossil." Primarily because the source for that comment is a dead link, but also because this term is misleading (see here for a discussion of the term and further references: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jul/06/why-its-time-to-make-living-fossils-extinct) 108.6.33.60 (talk) 00:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

 Not done--Please provide WP:RS in support of your proposed change to 1st statement.It is currently well-supported by a major reliable source.This is the link to the archived version of the second webpage.I am more open to changing this particular statement in light of new more reliable sources, but the source provided by you tries to challenge the term living fossil in general.As to the best of my knowledge, the term is still widely used in scientific literature and is not an obscure term.If you discover any source that specifically rejects the giant panda as a living fossil, re-open the edit request.Winged Blades ^Godric 10:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Evaluation

Under the title, Classification, the first sentence has a grammar error. There should be a comma before the word "because." Under the section of Reproduction, the male's role can be explained more in depth, since the mother's role has a detailed explanation on her behavior towards her cubs. Jizila (talk) 22:30, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Asterisks in the population chart

The meaning of asterisks in the population chart ("Wild" column) is unexplained and unclear. I might remove it or replace it with the primary source. --朝彦 | Asahiko (talk) 02:34, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Etymology

The etymology section ends in a question mark of sorts in connection with Nepali. But the word for "panda" in the Nepali article on the subject is पाण्डा, which it appears can be transcribed as "pāṇḍā". So is this the perfectly obvious origin of the English word, or is this a late borrowing by Nepali that replaces that language's earlier word? Largoplazo (talk) 11:15, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I would hesitate to apply the phrase "perfectly obvious" to very many word origins, and definitely not to this one. Webster's New World Dictionary says it's "apparently" original to Nepali, which would suggest its editors aren't completely confident. Other major dictionaries don't even agree about when the word entered the English language, stating variously 1825, 1834, 1820s, and mid-19th century. Check out the entry at AHD, which is usually rather conservative when it comes to etymological notes, and note the "probably" and the "perhaps". We could go into more detail in the section, I guess, but I don't suppose we could be more definite. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 12:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2017

I suggest adding this research study in Behavioural Ecology (2017) that examines why Pandas have black and white fur: Caro et al (2017). Why is the giant panda black and white? Behavioural Ecology Rogerallanwhite1992 (talk) 08:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. In other words, where would you like it to go and what do you want it to say? (It looks like a good suggestion.) Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 14:03, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2017

Please add the following to the chapter "In zoos" / paragraph "Europe".:

• Ouwehands Dierenpark, Rhenen, The Netherlands – home to Wu Wen (F) and Xing Ya (M) since April 2017. Hidde1234 (talk) 21:26, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

The photo of panda Qizai with the description "The Qinling panda has a light-brown and white pattern" is not true.

Qinling pandas have same black and white pattern as pandas from Sichuan. The ones found with brown and white fur are rare cases even among Qinling subspecies. Qinling pandas are slightly smaller than other giant pandas, but their fur color is not the feature of distinction.