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Good articleLinkin Park has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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December 10, 2007Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 20, 2007Good article nomineeListed
January 7, 2008Featured article candidateNot promoted
Current status: Good article


Musical Style and Influences

I found an old article from the New York Times news paper where the author, Kelefa Sanneh, wrote about how Linkin Park supposedly survived the decline of rap-rock's popularity by darkening the mood of their music upon the making of the album, "Minutes to Midnight". In the article, Sanneh says that "In retrospect, it's clear that the stratospheric success of Linkin Park marked the end of an era." Sanneh was referring to how Linkin Park may have been the last great rap-rock group of the 1990s before the genre itself nearly died-out. The article then describes how the group members realized the aforementioned decline in rap-rock, and had to adapt as a result. Later in the article, Sanneh says, "In deference to the current climate, they have de-emphasized rap-rock and tentatively embraced emo." This reflects the mood change Linkin Park did in order to retain the fans' interest in their music. The next album, "Minutes to Midnight", contained songs with overall darker tones, although some may argue that there were a few exceptions. Considering the success "Minutes to Midnight" has achieved, however, the group's decision to switch musical moods seems to have worked. I feel that this information might be a good addition to the Musical Style and Influence section because it delves more into the development of Linkin Park's music.Xenanraptor720 (talk) 08:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[1][reply]

References

  1. ^ Sanneh, Kelefa (14 May 2007). "An Emo Makeover After the Reign of Rap-Rock". New York Times Company. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Living Things first week sales

Under the Living Things and Recharged section of the article, I think we should state that Living Things sold 223,000 copies in its first week rather than over 220,000 copies in order to more accurately reflect its first week sales. The original source that was used to state that it sold over 220,000 copies also confirms that it sold 223,000 copies. Thanks. --Sasha.sov (talk) 17:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. Thanks. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  17:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reanimation

please change ((Main|Hybrid Theory|Reanimation)) to ((Main|Hybrid Theory|Reanimation (Linkin Park album)))

Done. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:43, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

Wikicode seems to have crept into the Timeline. 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.175.160 (talk) 15:18, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what caused it, but it has been fixed.Kellymoat (talk) 18:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2017

Linkin park released a second single on March 22nd titled "Battle Symphony". 207.35.68.17 (talk) 15:53, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rob Bourdon Wikipedia Page?

Part of me kind of feel that there needs to an official Wikipedia page for Linkin Park drummer Rob Bourdon. The only problem is that I need to cite the collected information so that I can be certain the page won't get deleted. The only notable source I could find was this [1], but even then it doesn't give you much information outside of his formation of Linkin Park with fellow bandmates Mike Shinoda and Brad Delson. I would like to ask anyone reading this whether they think there should be a Wikipedia page dedicated to Rob or not? Rotten Tardises (talk) 13:31, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.allmusic.com/artist/rob-bourdon-mn0000918807
Of course should be. He is a long time member of one of the most popular bands in the world. If it's not making him notable, there is something wrong in English Wikipedia. Of course, you have to add reliable sources so those who don't understand music, can see that there is something written about him in the internet. Other good source, for example moderndrummer.com. Stryn (talk) 16:03, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What has he done outside of Linkin Park?
And then, once you figure that out, would it require a standalone article and would it meet the requirements for a standalone article? Most likely, you would create an "Other projects" heading within this article instead of creating one on its own.Kellymoat (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think, other projects isn't the only notable thing that can be written in a standalone article. Look at the Brad Delson article, a large portion is dedicated to the Playing style and equipment part. That's something that could justify a Rob Bourdon article if the same amount of information can be found. --Gbuvn (talk) 17:12, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am not interested in using one article to justify another. Because any parent knows the proper response to that --- "If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you?" I have seen plenty of articles and sections of articles that got deleted after being there for years. I know a grammy winner that doesn't qualify for an article because he remains largely out of the public eye, and really only has credits and awards, which leads to very little press. Yet, I see local bands with articles.
However, as to a playing style - if this guy has a unique style and he is admired by or has inspired millions (like like Jimi Hendrix with the fuzz and feedback, or Eddie Van Halen's finger tapping), then certainly there would be tons of press regarding him. And that takes us right back to my original statement - who is he outside of LP, and is there justification for a standalone article. Kellymoat (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a small biography for Rob Bourdon available in List of Linkin Park band members. There was a high demand to create articles for Rob Bourdon and Dave Farrell. However we did not have enough reliable sources to establish notability or add substantial content. As previous editors stated, there is not much published information about Bourdon's early life, personal life, or even a critical discussion of his playing style. Bourdon rarely spoke to the media directly, but he's released a few Q and A's.[1][2], but these have been self-published through Linkin Park Underground. The content in Chester Bennington and Mike Shinoda's career goes beyond their musical careers and discuses their upbringing and work outside of music (film, art, influences, and families), which have all been gathered through interviews and articles. And yes, there are other musicians on Wikipedia who have played for far-less noteworthy band, but the 'other stuff exists' rationale is not really appropriate for adding or removing topics. I would be all for adding an article for Bourdon if we could find more reliable, attributable, and third-party information about him that is outside of Linkin Park. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  23:13, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2017

To Change the Total No of Selling albums from 70 million to 86 million as of calculated from individual albums selling nos from wikipedia page MilinSankar (talk) 02:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I applaud you for calculating the actual number, but there still needs to be a source to back this claim. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 02:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Rock

I was thinking that we should add pop rock as another genre of Linkin Park since their most recent album has tons of pop rock songs. Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 00:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NSF sure if there are any reliable sources. - TheMagnificentist 04:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
While I wouldn't mind the addition of pop rock, if some good sources are found, I haven't seen many sources yet that call them a pop rock band as a whole. Kokoro20 (talk) 07:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am also not opposed to adding 'pop rock', but we would need a reliable source that idenfies the band as pop-rock throughout their entire existence. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  13:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2017

Please change "On July 20, 2017, Bennington committed suicide by hanging.[147]" to "On July 20, 2017, Bennington died by suicide. [147]", where reference is as follows: "147. https://themighty.com/2017/07/linkin-park-chester-bennington-suicide/. July 20, 2017. Retrieved July 20, 2017. "

Reason: There have been concerns on various mental health forums regarding the way Bennington's death has been reported, specifically regarding the TMZ article that's being spread through social media. The concern has to do with the headline of the report, where the means of suicide is explicit. It violates safe reporting guidelines for suicide (for safety and other purposes), due to the sensitive nature of its subject matter in most cases. A public facebook post by an active mental health advocate talks about it here: https://www.facebook.com/alicia.raimundo/posts/10155195031196329. The aforementioned reporting guidelines can be found here: http://reportingonsuicide.org/. Ratneshchandna (talk) 03:36, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2017

On July 20, 2017, Bennington completed suicide by hanging.[149] Shinoda confirmed Bennington's death on social media, writing "Shocked and heartbroken, but it's true. An official statement will come out as soon as we have one."[150] It should be committed not completed Axelblaze69 (talk) 04:10, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you for pointing that out! regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 05:01, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Please discuss first below - FlightTime (open channel) 05:08, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2017

There are reference to Minutes to Midnight World Tour in section "2006–2008: Minutes to Midnight", but I cannot make a shortcut/reference out of it. Could anyone please do that and add double brackets? Heres the ref: Minutes_to_Midnight_World_Tour . In fact, it is included as a link on the section Concert tours: Headlining so you can take that one out of it.

"Committed suicide" consensus discussion

I'll start the consensus discussion. It has been suggested to phrase it "completed suicide", I'll suggest "died by suicide". Too much edit warring on this subject. - FlightTime (open channel) 04:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, The Associated Press Stylebook discourages "committed", and suggests alternate phrases. Even though Wikipedia is not written in AP Style, that is nonetheless one major writing style that errs against the use of "committed". For instance, Pitchfork selected to use "died by suicide", one of the AP's suggested terms, for their headline. The New York Times phrased their obituary in such a way that avoided an action verb near the word "suicide". "Completed" is neither encouraged nor discouraged by the AP. However, I suggest wording this in a similar (but not exact) fashion to the Times, since that reference is already in the article as the citation for that sentence. Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 04:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, the sources still say "apparent." We won't have confirmation until there is a coroner's report. Just noting. But yes, "committed" is a phrase to be discouraged, and the AP stylebook is persuasive authority on such matters. Montanabw(talk) 05:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

Unfortunately, it looks as though the GNAA has hijacked the article and has made it so that the whole article redirects to their website, along with a link at the top. Please for the love of god wikipedia fix this and find a way to keep them out.

--YLCC23 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)Someone who really wants the GNAA to get off the page[reply]

== Newest AlbumMisterryan (talk) 04:30, 21 July 2017

I'm not familiar with how to edit pages, and I'm not overly familiar with Linkin Park; however, the link for the newest album to present takes users to a gnaa press release, which does not seem to be correct.

- Actually, clicking anywhere on the page takes you to a GNAA press release (at black41.pe.hu/m). I can't figure out where that's being done on the page though to fix it. Is it maybe in one of the infoboxes? Treznor (talk) 04:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

- Annnnd its fixed now. Treznor (talk) 04:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

-Thanks. Glad to hear it. Just seemed disrespectful, particularly today. Misterryan (talk) 04:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)misterryan[reply]

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