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Farewell to the World: A History of Suicide by Marzio Barbagli, translated by Lucinda Byatt, 2015, Polity Press Jodi.a.schneider (talk)

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CHANGE It appears that while news media has a significant effect; that of the entertainment media is equivocal.[91][92] TO It appears that while news media has a significant effect; that of the entertainment media is equivocal[91][92] with studies showing fictional suicides are related to increases in potential suicidal ideation.<ref>http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2646773<ref> D wiki 54 (talk) 16:48, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Modify "committed suicide" to "died by suicide" in two spots?

New person here, so forgive any missteps. I noticed in the definitions section that mental health organizations recommend using more neutral language than "committed suicide", but "committed suicide" is used in two other places in the wikipedia article to describe suicide deaths (first paragraph of "History", third paragraph of "Religious Views"). Even if "committed suicide" is still commonly used in journalism/academia, I would suggest moving to more neutral language in those spots. P.S. I didn't see this topic in the archive, but again, newbie Emdroge (talk) 22:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Emdroge:, I would like to see the wording changed also. "Committed suicide" sounds like the victim committed a crime which is why I think it is recommended that "died by suicide" be used instead. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 22:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a change from 'committed suicide' to 'died by suicide.'--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 23:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Change in two spots. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:38, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe "committed suicide" is still used in the vernacular more often than "died by suicide" (Google returns 13.7 million results for the former versus 399 thousand for the latter), and all "committing" means is that someone dedicated themselves to a course of action. If I commit to getting more sleep, that's hardly a crime. I daresay that people who feel the word choice implies a crime don't really know what the word means.

Additionally, the word "commit" was deemed acceptable after an RfC in 2013. I therefore don't believe we should change it without another RfC to overrule the prior consensus. DonIago (talk) 06:12, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do not care at this point. Died is less controversial. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:13, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Less controversial according to whom? And if you don't care about a prior consensus, I would suggest that Wikipedia isn't an ideal site for you. DonIago (talk) 06:18, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(e.c.) My personal preference is generally to honor the wording that (most) mental health organizations recommend, but I'm not sure that doing so here is necessarily going to be considered "neutral". More to the point, are we envisioning this as the beginning of widespread change in related articles? If so, we'll have to get past the fact that "died by suicide" is not commonly used, while "committed suicide" is. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 06:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I work at a suicide hotline and we use the term 'suicided' rather than 'committed suicide' for the reasons I mentioned above. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 21:20, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That RfC was 4 years ago. I supported keeping "commit" at that point in time.

I was the one who brought this article through GA. And am one of its primary contributors.[1]

But sure can return it. User:Emdroge you, it appears, will need a new RfC. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:57, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is a committed Christian a criminal? If an employee demonstrates commitment to his company should he be locked up? When an aircraft is committed to a landing should we prosecute its pilot? Perhaps we should rather castigate those who seek to change the language due to ignorance. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the English language a word can have more than one meaning, depending on context. For this reason, what you wrote makes no sense. Since you raised the issue of Christianity, and the general theme of this discussion - the Roman Catholic Church used to declare, that those who lost their lives because of suicide 'committed' a grave sin by 'committing suicide' which denied them access to heaven and also denied them the right to a Catholic burial in a Catholic cemetary. Then came the Protestant Reformation, which sought to discard the 'doctrines of man' with a 'Bible Only/Bible First' viewpoint and a more literal interpretation of scripture, and then the theology grew that only rejection of the Holy Spirit or Jesus Christ condemns one to hell - not necessarily suicide - although most Protestant theologians still viewed most or all cases of suicide as a sin or wrong. Then came secularism and modern medicine, who viewed it through a therapeutic and psychological lens - of course the general view of the wrongness of suicide is still prominent in modern culture, with society and clinicians trying to prevent it in various ways with prominent debate in certain cases, such as euthanasia. But the term 'commit suicide' originates from theological morality issues hundreds or perhaps thousands of years ago. Of course now people say 'commit suicide' without thinking about the origins or original meaning of the term. Commit suicide therefore is an outdated term due to it now no longer being a criminal offense in almost all Western countries and modern thinking; see this section Suicide#Legislation.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 11:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yup it is an old term of dubious origins.. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The case for a sane person's suicide

One may consider to amend the article so that possible sanity of a person who suicides also is presented. You should know d*mn well that there are heavy reasons for the fact that people suicide such that people living under assaults from people without having the proper self-defence. This issue should be amended by the article. See more here: https://whatiswritten777.blogspot.no/2012/09/pro-and-con-arguments-of-assisted.html
"1. Warburton, N., 2004, p. 21. The Basics - Philosophy, 4th ed. Routledge: New York"
"The Problem of Evil. "...of the widespread practice of torture." and "...all examples of moral evil or cruelty: human beings inflicting suffering on other human beings..."" 109.189.66.223 (talk) 23:54, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:MEDRS

We already have a section on that Suicide#Rational Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:07, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mind adding the reference, "1. Warburton, N., 2004, p. 21. The Basics - Philosophy, 4th ed. Routledge: New York", after -> "...some people use suicide as a means of escape.[102]"? Making it the 103 as the 102 seems "hidden"? 109.189.66.223 (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]