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RFC on tennis player Andy Murray (Scottish/British)

There is an ongoing RfC to determine whether Andy Murray is a Scottish or British tennis player. Please lend a hand at the Andy Murray British tennis player or Scottish tennis player RfC. Thanks.

BLP violations

Today, there is ongoing massive edit of articles such as Biathlon at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Women's relay, where athletes are listed as disqualified but no references are added to the articles. (I suspect this is one user/IP who is edit-warring, but I am not going to start an SPI). Note that whereas the fact are correct (see [1]) adding them into articles without references constitutes BLP violations. I will try to add references myself, but unfortunately I have very little time this week. Some help will be appreciated.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:04, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is massive edit-warring, and I do not have time to follow up now. The articles will stay with BLP violations.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The IOC dq'd the relay team today [2] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:45, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but the references must have been in the articles (I finally added them for biathlon, but not for other sports).--Ymblanter (talk) 15:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Now, not quite unsuprisingly, there are mass edits in the articles pretending that medals have already been reallocated, see [3] as an example.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:26, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further update on https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/ website

A while ago there was concern about what would happen when SR/Olympics closes down and the info migrates to the new IOC website. Happy to say we now have a complete set of tab-delimited text files for all the Olympic athletes in SR. So when we know exactly what the address of the new website will be we can send you a file which gives the old and new addresses of each page in order to convert one to the other. For example
(78857) https:​//www.​sports-reference.​com/olympics/athletes/oe/al-oe​rter-1 will equal http:​//www.​(websitename)/athletes/78857​
Feel free to contact User:Billbambam or me Topcardi (talk) 01:43, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update - that is useful. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:34, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have anyone lined up to work on a bot to convert the links? @DatGuy: Kees08 (Talk) 14:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you've got a list of A that needs to be converted to B, I'm happy to do that for ya. Primefac (talk) 14:51, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I believe IABot was sent to archive it a while ago. Topcardi: Could you link a google drive folder with the text files? Thanks, Dat GuyTalkContribs 14:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Headers for team sports

We introduced headers for team sports in the 2016 Summer Olympics. I'm trying to add similar ones for these games, and I've done an ice hockey one which was straight forward enough (see below). However, making one for Curling that doesn't look ridiculous is harder, as the round robin with 9 games makes the table too big to be practical if the country names are written in full. The solution I'd prefer would to show each opponent's flag and IOC code only (So instead of "Norway", just a flag and "NOR"), which would cut down on the space needed. I don't know how a simple way to do that though, there's no template similar to Template:FlagIOC or Template:FlagIOCathlete that shows just the country code. Anyone got a good idea how to solve that?

On a related note, the country code OAR (for Olympic Athletes from Russia) would be nice if it was added! Are there any other sports that need a header that I've overlooked? Thanks in advance! -- Lejman (talk) 00:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll just go with flagicon and a manually written link for now. It looks good at least! :) -- Lejman (talk) 02:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me! Thanks for doing them. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not seeing this earlier. I've created {{flagIOCshort}}, which will produce (for NOR @ 2018 Olympics)  NOR. Also, OAR already exists (see  OAR).Primefac (talk) 15:12, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Curling

Team Event Group Stage Semifinal Final / BM
Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Rank Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Rank
Sweden men's Men's tournament  DEN
 KOR
 USA
 GBR
 CAN
 JPN
 SUI
 ITA
 NOR
Sweden women's Women's tournament Denmark DEN
 Canada CAN
 International Olympic Committee OAR
 Switzerland SUI
 United Kingdom GBR
 South Korea KOR
 Japan JPN
 China CHN
 United States USA

Ice hockey

Summary

Key:

Team Event Group Stage Quarterfinal Semifinal Final / BM
Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Rank Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Opposition
Score 		Rank
Sweden men's Men's tournament  Norway
  Germany
  Finland
Sweden women's Women's tournament  Japan
  South Korea
   Switzerland

North Korea at the 2018 winter olympics

I am running into 3rr territory, but hopefully there is someone who can restore that Japan has in fact qualified for the pairs event because PRK did not register. I understand that the IOC is trying to make a way for the PRK pair to still compete, but it is not even confirmed that they still will compete anyway.18abruce (talk) 17:04, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BRD comes to mind - when you're stuck, discuss on the talk? If you still reach a deadlock (or they don't respond) at least you'll demonstrate that you tried. Primefac (talk) 17:08, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I looked a little closer at the follow up edit by smartyllama and it appears to sufficiently express the current ambiguity with the PRK situation. And that particular editor did restore the sources, so good enough for me, for now. Thank you.18abruce (talk) 17:12, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1951 Pan American Games results

Does anyone know where I can find the official results of the 1951 Pan American Games? I'm getting conflicting sources on the results of the women's javelin[4][5] vs. [6][7]. Thanks. SFB 22:31, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This book has all the results [8] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Olympics

Hi. In Wikimedia Spain we want to organice Wiki Loves the Olympics again this year, and I want to know if you will have a list of athletes for the Olympics Games 2018. Thank you so much. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Qualification sections for 2018 Winter Olympics

Now all pages about individual events have been created. It would be great if someone knowledgeable could summarize the qualification requirements for example how it has been done here (my apologies that I copied this without a proper attribution from one of the articles, will try to correct). I am not qualified to do it myself, otherwise I would have done it. We need one paragraph for each sports (plus relays and team events could be a bit special).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:43, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Acknowledging @Sportsfan 1234: as the author of the paragraph I refer to.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I can create them and post them here... but I will do that on the weekend. Please remind me then, thanks! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks. I should be around and able to ping you.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sportsfan 1234:--Ymblanter (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will post them here. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:54, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For curling and ice hockey, I don't think the sections below are necessary, let me know what you think. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ymblanter:, not sure if the qualification links are on each page. I have not listed them below. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I will figure out where to add text, and in any case we can always add it later if I miss smth. Ice hockey and curling are the results of tournaments, I will see what I can write there and whether it is at all necessary. Thanks a lot.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I haven't really looked at (just skimmed) the text below, but if you're talking about using the same text across multiple pages we should probably use Labeled section transclusion so that if something needs/gets updated it will update across all pages. Primefac (talk) 16:12, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much the same across all sports, with minor event specific changes. @Ymblanter:, I am stopping for now and will finish the rest later. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:14, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks Sportsfan 1234. @Primefac:, it might be useful to transclude the text indeed, but so far we never used any piece in more than six instances.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:16, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Six instances is still quite a lot, but if you think it's not necessary that's fine. I haven't had a chance to really look at the situation (yet) so I'll trust your judgement (just let me know). Primefac (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Let us wait then until we have all the descriptions. So far the biggest are six for cross-country (not sprint, not relay, and not short distance) and four (two instances) for alpine skiing, but there are other sports coming with a lot of events (biathlon, snowboarding, freestyle skiing, short track, and speed skating).--Ymblanter (talk) 16:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)\[reply]
@Ymblanter: I have now added snoboarding/freestyle skiing. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:52, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
proposed extended content
Alpine skiing
(For Super G/Downhill)
  • A total of up to 320 alpine skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard only, which meant having 80 or less FIS Points and being ranked in the top 500 in the Olympic FIS points list. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the 2017–18 FIS Alpine Ski World Cup (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). After the distribution of B standard quotas (to nations competing only in the slalom and giant slalom events), the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[1]
(For combined)
  • A total of up to 320 alpine skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard only, which meant having 140 or less FIS Points and being ranked in the top 500 in the Olympic FIS points list. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Athletes were also required to have 80 or less FIS points in the downhill. Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the 2017–18 FIS Alpine Ski World Cup (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). After the distribution of B standard quotas (to nations competing only in the slalom and giant slalom events), the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[2]
(For slalom/giant slalom)
  • A total of up to 320 alpine skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 140 or less FIS Points and being ranked in the top 500 in the Olympic FIS points list or meeting the B standard, which meant 140 or less FIS points. Countries not meeting the A standard were allowed to enter a maximum of one B standard athlete per gender. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the 2017–18 FIS Alpine Ski World Cup (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). After the distribution of B standard quotas (to nations competing only in the slalom and giant slalom events), the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[3]
Biathlon
Bobsleigh
Two men
  • The top three countries in the 2017–18 Bobsleigh season (including the World Cup, Europe races and Americas Cup) were awarded the maximum three sleds. The next six countries were awarded two sleds each. The remaining nine sleds were awarded to nine different countries, with South Korea being awarded a slot as host nation..[4][5]
Four men
  • The top three countries in the 2017–18 Bobsleigh season (including the World Cup, Europe races and Americas Cup) were awarded the maximum three sleds. The next six countries were awarded two sleds each. The remaining nine sleds were awarded to nine different countries, with Australia being awarded an Oceania continental quota and South Korea being awarded a slot as host nation.[6][7]
women
  • The top two countries in the 2017–18 Bobsleigh season (including the World Cup, Europe races and Americas Cup) were awarded the maximum three sleds. The next four countries were awarded two sleds each. The remaining six sleds were awarded to six different countries, with Australia being awarded an Oceania continental quota, Nigeria being awarded with the African quota and South Korea being awarded a slot as host nation.[8][9]
Cross-country skiing (10km men/15k women)
  • A total of up to 310 cross-country skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 100 or less FIS Points or meeting the B standard, which meant 300 or less FIS points in the distance classification. Countries not meeting the A standard were allowed to enter a maximum of one B standard athlete per gender. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the FIS Olympics Points list (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). Countries also received an additional quota (one per gender maximum) if an athlete was ranked in the top 300 of the FIS Olympics Points list. After the distribution of B standard quotas, the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[10]
For all other events (minus relays/sprint/team sprint)
  • A total of up to 310 cross-country skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 100 or less FIS Points in the distance classification. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the FIS Olympics Points list (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). Countries also received an additional quota (one per gender maximum) if an athlete was ranked in the top 300 of the FIS Olympics Points list. After the distribution of B standard quotas, the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[11]
Relays
  • A total of up to 310 cross-country skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 100 or less FIS Points in either the sprint or distance classification. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the FIS Olympics Points list (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). Countries also received an additional quota (one per gender maximum) if an athlete was ranked in the top 300 of the FIS Olympics Points list. After the distribution of B standard quotas, the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter the event if it had qualified at least four male athletes, and a country could enter only one team.[12]

Note the last line needs to switch men for women for the women's relay

Individual sprint
  • A total of up to 310 cross-country skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 100 or less FIS Points or meeting the B standard, which meant 120 or less FIS points in the sprint classification. Countries not meeting the A standard were allowed to enter a maximum of one B standard athlete per gender. The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the FIS Olympics Points list (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). Countries also received an additional quota (one per gender maximum) if an athlete was ranked in the top 300 of the FIS Olympics Points list. After the distribution of B standard quotas, the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of four athletes for the event.[13]
Team sprint
  • A total of up to 310 cross-country skiers qualified across all eleven events. Athletes qualified for this event by having met the A qualification standard, which meant having 100 or less FIS Points The Points list takes into average the best results of athletes per discipline during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018). Countries received additional quotas by having athletes ranked in the top 30 of the FIS Olympics Points list (two per gender maximum, overall across all events). Countries also received an additional quota (one per gender maximum) if an athlete was ranked in the top 300 of the FIS Olympics Points list. After the distribution of B standard quotas, the remaining quotas were distributed using the Olympic FIS Points list, with each athlete only counting once for qualification purposes. A country could only enter a maximum of one team for the sprint consisting of two athletes.[14]
Figure skating (men's)

A total of 30 skaters qualified to compete for the event, with each country allowed to only enter a maximum of three. 24 quotas were handed out during the 2017 World Figure Skating Championships and the remaining six were given out at the 2017 CS Nebelhorn Trophy. Each country decided the entry of its teams, and athletes winning the quota were not necessarily granted the right to compete.[15] All athletes competing must have met the minimum total elements score, which does not include component scores. For the short program this was 25.00 and the free skate 45.00.[16]

Figure skating (women's)

A total of 30 skaters qualified to compete for the event, with each country allowed to only enter a maximum of three. 24 quotas were handed out during the 2017 World Figure Skating Championships and the remaining six were given out at the 2017 CS Nebelhorn Trophy. Each country decided the entry of its teams, and athletes winning the quota were not necessarily granted the right to compete.[17] All athletes competing must have met the minimum total elements score, which does not include component scores. For the short program this was 20.00 and the free skate 36.00.[18]

Pairs

A total of 22 teams qualified to compete for the event, with each country allowed to only enter a maximum of three. Originally only 20 spots were available, but due to the invitation of the North and South Korean teams, the quota jumped to 22. 16 quotas were handed out during the 2017 World Figure Skating Championships and four were given out at the 2017 CS Nebelhorn Trophy. Each country decided the entry of its teams, and athletes winning the quota were not necessarily granted the right to compete. The South Korean were given an additional quota as host nation, after they failed to qualify through the World Championships or Nebelhorn Trophy.[19] North Korea, who originally qualified at the Nebelhorn Trophy, did not register its athletes in time. However, after the country agreed to participate in the games, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) allowed the pair to compete.[20] All pairs competing must have met the minimum total elements score, which does not include component scores. For the short program this was 20.00 and the free skate 36.00.[21]

Ice dance

A total of 24 teams qualified to compete for the event, with each country allowed to only enter a maximum of three. 19 quotas were handed out during the 2017 World Figure Skating Championships, however the Denmark had to return the quota as one of their athletes did not have citizenship (and was the only eligible team from the country). This meant the remaining six were given out at the 2017 CS Nebelhorn Trophy. Each country decided the entry of its teams, and athletes winning the quota were not necessarily granted the right to compete.[22] All pairs competing must have met the minimum total elements score, which does not include component scores. For the short program this was 19.00 and the free skate 29.00.[23]

Team event

A total of 10 teams qualified to compete. Each nation must have qualified in three of the other four events to be considered for the team event. All athletes must have qualified for one of the other four events. However, if a nation did not qualify in one of the other four events, it was awarded an additional quota only for the team event. This was only used for Israel in the women's event.[24][25][26]

Section break

Freestyle skiing (Aerials)
  • The top 25 athletes in the Olympic quota allocation list qualified, with a maximum of four athletes per National Olympic Committee (NOC) allowed. All athletes qualifying must also have placed in the top 30 FIS World Cup event or FIS Freestyle World Ski Championships during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018) and also have a minimum of 80 FIS points to compete. If the host country, South Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics did not qualify, their chosen athlete would displace the last qualified athlete, granted all qualification criterion was met.[27]
Freestyle skiing (Moguls)
Freestyle skiing (Ski cross)
Freestyle skiing (Men's halfpipe/slopestyle)
Freestyle skiing (Women's halfpipe/slopestyle)
Nordic combined (individual events)

Using the Olympic Quota Allocation List and Continental Cup Standings, when no athletes remain in the allocation list (which includes results from July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018), the top 50 athletes were awarded quotas (with maximum of five per country). Only maximum of four could be entered into this event. The remaining five quotas were given to countries with three athletes to make a team. If a minimum of ten teams were already formed in the first 50, then the remaining five quotas would be allocated using the allocation list or continental cup standings.[32]

Nordic combined (team)

Using the Olympic Quota Allocation List and Continental Cup Standings, when no athletes remain in the allocation list (which includes results from July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018), the top 50 athletes were awarded quotas (with maximum of five per country). Only a maximum of one team of four athletes could be entered into the event. The remaining five quotas were given to countries with three athletes to make a team. If a minimum of ten teams were already formed in the first 50, then the remaining five quotas would be allocated to the individual competition.[33]

Luge
Short track speed skating (500/1000m)

The top 32 athletes using the

Skeleton
Men

30 athletes qualified. Qualification is based on the combined rankings (across all four tours) as of January 14, 2018. The top three countries received three quotas each, the next six received two each and the last nine were awarded to nine different countries. Men had to be ranked in the top 60, after eliminating non-quota-earning competitors from countries that have earned their maximum quota. Ghana was awarded the continental quota for Africa.[34] Competitors must compete in five different races on three different tracks during the 2016/17 season or 2017/18 season.[35]

Women

20 athletes qualified. Qualification is based on the combined rankings (across all four tours) as of January 14, 2018. The top two countries received three quotas each, the next four received two each and the last six were awarded to six different countries. The Netherlands rejected one of its two quotas. Women had to be ranked in the top 45, after eliminating non-quota-earning competitors from countries that have earned their maximum quota. Nigeria was awarded the continental quota for Africa, while Australia received the Oceania quota. South Korea qualified as host nation.[36] Competitors must compete in five different races on three different tracks during the 2016/17 season or 2017/18 season.[37]

Ski jumping
Snowboarding (parallel)
Men's halfpipe
Women's halfpipe
Men's snowboard cross
Women's snowboard cross
Men's slopestyle
  • The top 40 athletes in the Olympic quota allocation list qualified (for both big air and slopestyle, the rankings were combined). This meant only a maximum of 40 could qualify across both events. A maximum of four athletes per National Olympic Committee (NOC) was allowed. All athletes qualifying must also have placed in the top 30 of a FIS World Cup event or the FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2017 during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018) and also have a minimum of 50 FIS points to compete. If the host country, South Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics did not qualify, their chosen athlete would displace the last qualified athlete, granted all qualification criterion was met.[43]
Men's big air
  • The top 40 athletes in the Olympic quota allocation list qualified (for both big air and slopestyle, the rankings were combined). This meant only a maximum of 40 could qualify across both events. A maximum of four athletes per National Olympic Committee (NOC) was allowed. All athletes qualifying must also have placed in the top 30 of a FIS World Cup event (in either big air or slopestyle) or the FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2017 during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018) and also have a minimum of 50 FIS points to compete. If the host country, South Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics did not qualify, their chosen athlete would displace the last qualified athlete, granted all qualification criterion was met.[44]
Women's slopestyle
  • The top 30 athletes in the Olympic quota allocation list qualified (for both big air and slopestyle, the rankings were combined). This meant only a maximum of 30 could qualify across both events. A maximum of four athletes per National Olympic Committee (NOC) was allowed. All athletes qualifying must also have placed in the top 30 of a FIS World Cup event or the FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2017 during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018) and also have a minimum of 50 FIS points to compete. If the host country, South Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics did not qualify, their chosen athlete would displace the last qualified athlete, granted all qualification criterion was met.[45]
Women's big air
  • The top 30 athletes in the Olympic quota allocation list qualified (for both big air and slopestyle, the rankings were combined). This meant only a maximum of 30 could qualify across both events. A maximum of four athletes per National Olympic Committee (NOC) was allowed. All athletes qualifying must also have placed in the top 30 of a FIS World Cup event (in either big air or slopestyle) or the FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2017 during the qualification period (July 1, 2016 to January 21, 2018) and also have a minimum of 50 FIS points to compete. If the host country, South Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics did not qualify, their chosen athlete would displace the last qualified athlete, granted all qualification criterion was met.[46]


Speed skating
References

References

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Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics

Sportsfan 1234, I noticed you just killed Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics; what are your thoughts for where the ice hockey team should be listed? Primefac (talk) 16:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts are on the 2018 Winter Olympics talk page. I think the team should be listed across both North and South Korea's individual pages and a note on the 2018 Olympic page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, I believe a dab to North and South is better than a redirect to 2018 Winter Olympics.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, cool, didn't see that conversation. Also, we already have Korea at the Olympics, so I agree that we should probably redirect there. Primefac (talk) 16:51, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves

Shouldn't we redirect articles in Category:National records in Olympic weightlifting per WP:LISTNAME. Example: "Albanian records in Olympic weightlifting" → "List of Albanian records in Olympic weightlifting"? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That seems reasonable. I'd probably wait until there's a consensus (either here or elsewhere) before moving that many pages, though. Primefac (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it is reasonable (though this is not redirecting, this is moving).--Ymblanter (talk) 08:57, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Pelmeen10: FYI - weightlifting is not the only group with this issue. See Category:Sports national records. Thanks. SFB 19:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FIS quotas and PRK

With the (confirmed) news about the number of North Koreans participating, I find it odd that the FIS did not include them in their quota list for cross-country and alpine skiing. I was hoping for some opinions on why this may be, or news that I am missing. It occurred to me that it is possible that the 2 men and 1 woman could be included in the South's quota of 2 men and 2 women for each discipline, but I don't think so. Any direction on how to handle this would be appreciated.18abruce (talk) 14:42, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine North Korea is not part of the 320 and 310 athlete quota for alpine skiing and cross-country skiing respectively. The IOC is essentially creating athlete quotas for North Korea to participate in, which allows them to circumvent qualification rules (North Korea has no business in qualifying 2 men in alpine/cross-country skiing). This was done for Saudi Arabia in 2016 to allow four women, including two in athletics to compete. JoshMartini007 (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Serbia and Montenegro vs Yugoslavia

So basically Yugoslavia at the Olympics contains everything (like medals) from 1920–1992. And Serbia and Montenegro at the Olympics everything from 1996–2006. But the articles we have here Yugoslavia at the 1996 Summer Olympics, Yugoslavia at the 1998 Winter Olympics, Yugoslavia at the 2000 Summer Olympics and Yugoslavia at the 2002 Winter Olympics. And then again Basketball_at_the_Summer_Olympics notes as Serbia competing at 1996. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:15, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the Breakup of Yugoslavia happened in '92ish and FR Yugoslavia is now called Serb&Mont, I'd say that the existing split is awkward but (for the most part) accurate. Primefac (talk) 17:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


That is the event, the break-up of Yugoslavia occurred in 1992, but part that encompassed Serbia continued to be called Yugoslavia. From all of Yugoslavia up until 2002, only Serbia and Montenegro remained, which in 2003 founded the State of Serbia and Montenegro. On May 21, 2006, a plebiscite in which 55.5% of Montenegrins expressed the desire for separation. On June 3, 2006, Montenegro declared itself independent, and thus Yugoslavia was formally extinguished. Two days after Montenegro's independence, Serbia also declared. End of the name Yugoslavia only in 2003 (User talk:74Account) 17:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The name Serbia&Montenegro was not used back in 1994. Moreover, it appears that Yugoslav athletes actually continued to compete under the old SFR Yugloslavia flag and with the old country code (YUG) on the olympics held from 1994 until 2004 as evidenced e.g. (here, here and here. Therefore wikipedia's counting of the medals from that period for Serbia and Montenegro is wrong as the IOC did not award them like that. This shows very clearly that the IOC has awarded the olympic medals achieved by all the Yugoslav competitors (up until 2004) to one and the same entity.Tvx1 19:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some discussion years back: Talk:Yugoslavia_at_the_Olympics. "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" and "Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" are a bit different (by the members of it). But if the title says "Yugoslavia at the Olympics" (with the same YUG code) then we should include those 4 Olympic Games there (I mean let's try to think from the sporting point of view rather than politics). Tvx1, your edits were only half the solution because many articles should be rewritten or content moved. I'm gonna suggest a merge to see what other people think, maybe I'm wrong. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 20:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, more accurately my edits were just the start of the solution. A lot of articles need to be tweaked. I don't think the merger is a good thing though. We always have separate articles dealing with the appearances of the different national delegations at the individual olympics (e.g. Belgium at the 2008 Summer Olympics, Great Britain at the 2012 Summer Olympics). I also disagree with merging Serbia and Montenegro at the Olympics with anything. Serbia and Montenegro (IOC-code SCG) did compete separately at the 2004 Summer Olympics and 2006 Winter Olympics.Tvx1 21:43, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By merging I meant to include content of those 4 games (appearances, medals etc), not the whole articles to made one gigantic article. I couldnt find a better template to use. Pelmeen10 (talk) 23:26, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Until 1992 existed SFR Yugoslavia with 6 republic, since 1992 exist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (2 republics, Serbia and Montenegro)...............things until 1992 and after 1992 should not be merged. Even IOC consider 1996 and 2000 as Serbia and Montenegero. And what should be merged is Indepedent Olympic participants at 1992 with FR YUG and SCG --Backij (talk) 00:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC) Also flags listed for Yugoslavia at 1996 and 2000 Olympics are wrong!!![reply]

The COI considers until 2000 as Yugoslavia, respecting the decision of the heads of government of the time, proof in these photos: [[9]] e [[10]] (User talk:74Account) 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I undid these edits because these articles, tables, and records are structured according to IOC's NOCs. Please adhere to these standards. Jmj713 (talk) 02:53, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And according to the IOC the 1996-2002 medals were awarded to Yugoslavia. Your reverts make no sense and you’re the one not adhering to the IOC’s standards.Tvx1 04:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See our All-time Olympic Games medal table which is very precise and well researched. The Timeline of participation at Yugoslavia at the Olympics also reflects this. Thus these articles also have to conform. Jmj713 (talk) 19:39, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
These were already updated. You can always help to fix others. The IOC is very clear as to who they credit the appearances and medals with. Your continuous reverting of correcting information are not helping anyone in any way. It's just being pedantic over exactly following Wikipedia process and is only wasting people's time. You should be focusing on showing accurate information instead.Tvx1 19:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, article of sports at the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics, should be overchecked. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want like that you need to correct flags as 1996, 1998, 2000 and 2002 articles, no star.....you can see in the photo on jersey which you attached.--Backij (talk) 04:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If they are so different, then why do both have titles "Yugoslavia at the ... Olympics"? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:51, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You don’t seem to realize that while it may have been called the same name at the time, it’s not the same entity. That’s like combining USSR and the Unified Team. Also, often the reverse has happened, where a name changed but the entity remained the same, which is why the IOC considers Rhodesia totals as part of Zimbabwe’s. Jmj713 (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With this logic Olympic Athletes of Russia's statistics should go under Russia, just because they represent Russian athletes? Maybe it's better to seperate Yugoslavia's Olympic articles to SFR Yugoslavia and FR Yugoslavia or atleast those conserning 4 games (1996–2002)? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they were different political entities. They were not however different olympic entities. The olympic delegation did not change, it just represented a different political entities. The Yugoslavia at the olympics article gives the complete story of the three different political entities the Yugoslavia olympic delegation represented at different staged of history. The Olympic delegation is considered one continuous one however and that's the only thing were care about. The IOC awarded all olympic results to one and the same entity (Yugoslavia (YUG)) until 2002.Tvx1 18:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslavia or Serbia - FIBA Basketball World Cup and Eurobasket Yugoslavia [[ https://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/p/rpp//tid/390/_//teams.html ]] Serbia [[ https://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/p/rpp//tid/96799/_//teams.html ]] Serbia Nationalista User Bozalegenda promotes war pro editions Serbia. User talk:74Account) 1 February 2018 (UTC)

The "Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" was more closely related to Serbia and Montenegro than the "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia." It's a shame both nations were called Yugoslavia, but it seems illogical to combined the two Yugoslavias unless you completely merge Serbia and Montenegro as well and note the name change.JoshMartini007 (talk) 15:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, it doen't matter that they were more related to Serbia&Montenegro. "Olympic Athletes from Russia" is also seperated from Russia, even though there's no doubt which country are they related (coming from). We are not giving Soviet medals to Russia just because they were the successor state of Soviet Union. We are not giving any Soviet medals to any other later independent country, whatever their actual nationality. We should not make an exeption and seperate Yugoslavia before they finished competing under Yugoslavia. All-time Olympic Games medal table has every version of Germany seperated, they also seperate all the Indepenent Participants from their actual country. So lets keep a certal line here – matters the name they compete under. It's possible to seperate them in Yugoslavia at the Olympics article and make a note of it in the other articles. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FR Yugoslavia is Serbia and Montenegro just like Rhodesia is Zimbabwe so to separate them makes no sense. The two Yugoslavias are different. It would be like keeping Russia and the Soviet Union's medals together. JoshMartini007 (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Pelmeen10: Mate i dont know are you making jokes here with us or what? Once again Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1943–1992) and Federal Republic of Yugoslavia / Serbia and Montenegro (1992–2006) are not the same country. They have different names, different flags, different passports, everything was different. FR Yugoslavia played against other republics from SFR Yugoslavia (Croatia, Slovenia and others). So what the hell Croats have with FR Yugoslavia gold medal in Eurobasket 1997 when they played against each other on that tournament. Is this so hard to understand.--Bozalegenda (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but both versions of Yugoslavia participated under the same name. FR Yugoslavia was only Serbia+Montenegro, but in Olympics they did compete under "Yugoslavia", not Serbia&Montenegro – that's why Yugoslavia at the 2000 Summer Olympics is not called "Serbia&Montenegro at the 2000 Summer Olympics. Yugoslavia doesn't mean SFR Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia can either stand for SFR or FR. So the arguement with Croatia, has no meaning. With the sources provided there's no reason to make Yugoslavia into Serbia&Montenegro or just Serbia. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Technically at the Olympics the nation is referred to by its full name, at Wikipedia we shorten it (for various reasons). It's why we have Russia instead of Russian Federation, Macedonia instead of FYR Macedonia and South Korea instead of Republic of Korea. We can argue whether SFR and FR Yugoslavia are the same, but S&M needs to go with FR Yugoslavia. JoshMartini007 (talk) 19:14, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@JoshMartini007: That's write mate, thank you for supporting me.--Bozalegenda (talk) 19:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The olympic delegation however was one and the same until 2002. I just represented three different political states at different points in olympic history. Yet the the delegation recognized by the IOC was one and the same until 2002: Yugoslavia(YUG). A [Serbia and Montenegro (SCG) delegation only appeared in 2004 and 2006. No FR Yugoslavia (FRY) delegation ever appeared at the olympics. And we have to list medals in the articles of the Olympic delegations these medals were actually awarded to. There have been many Olympic delegations on many olympics which did not match a political entity. Our articles intend to show the performances of the different olympic delegations, not of the political entities.Tvx1 18:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
When this and this get merged then you could give all medals to your imaginary Yugoslavia (which never existed). And that merge will never happen, and do you know why? Because they are two totally different countries with only similar name. I know that cause I lived in that country, and I know that we have to change our passports, documents, flag and everything. So once again SFR Yugoslavia and FR Yugoslavia are not the same thing.--Bozalegenda (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The country that was competing in 90s and early 2000s was FR Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro). That country has nothing with an old SFR Yugoslavia (six republics- Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Monenegro, Slovenia). In FR Yugoslavia we had a new flag, new passports, everything was new. In 2003 FR Yugoslavia just changed their name to Serbia and Montenegro. When FR Yugoslavia won the Eurobasket 1997 they played against Croatia, and now someone wants to add that gold medal to Croats and other countries from SFRY?? All countries from ex SFR Yugoslavia have their own national teams from 1992 and they have nothing with medals from FR Yugoslavia.--Bozalegenda (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the country that was competing in 90s and early 2000s was Yugoslavia(YUG). The political entity it represented was FR Yugoslavia. The IOC registered country was the same as the pre-1992 however and the medals were thus awarded to the same olympic country.Tvx1 18:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Tvx1: No that's not correct. Thats a mistake on that site. It looks like you are learning me what passport and flag did my country used from early 90s till 2006.--Bozalegenda (talk) 19:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is Bozalegenda as we know him. If a source doesn't fit him, then there is "a mistake on that site".--2003:C8:7F21:595B:45B9:BDEC:5E10:AEB8 (talk) 19:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

this version is official FIBA ARCHIVE [[11]] so it was well locked to prevent some Serbs from disrespecting the other Slav peoples Because what has come from Yugoslavia will never be only from Serbia User:74Account

Also before anyone argues about the country code being the same this has happened many times See here. Some examples; DR Congo had COK (now Cook Islands), Guyana had GUA and GUI (now Guatemala and Guinea), Mongolia had MON (now Monaco) Niger had NGR (now Nigeria)and Nigeria had NIG (now Niger). Just because FR Yugoslavia used YUG doesn't mean they are the same country. JoshMartini007 (talk) 18:30, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far is the IOC were concerned, they were one and the same Olympic country. The medals were awarded to one and the same Yugoslavia(YUG). This not simply about the usage of "the same country code".Tvx1 18:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Winter Olympics torch relay

Project members are invited to improve the 2018 Winter Olympics torch relay article, which is currently little more than 2 large maps. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:46, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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