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I have resubmitted

I have resubmitted the article for a re-review, please let me know if it reads better now? If not, can you give me an example of how to improve it. thank you


Q on reference source language

07:53:55, 14 November 2017 review of submission by FriendlyB


Dear Thereodislong,

thank you for reviewing the draft "Dr. Petry Textile Auxiliaries".

For the sources, I cited independent sources, such as - http://www.genios.de/fachzeitschriften/artikel/MTB/20080617/umweltschutz-und-nachhaltigkeit-in-/060817061.html - https://www.biooekonomie-bw.de/de/fachbeitrag/aktuell/insektenchitin-macht-textilherstellung-nachhaltiger/

In order to have more evidence, I added information from further independent sources and references: - https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/6311207Z:GR-textilchemie-dr-petry-gmbh - https://www.bluesign.com/industry/chemical-suppliers/references/textilchemie-dr-petry

Thank you in advance for re-reviewing.

Thanks for your help!

Thanks for your assistance with Draft:InnoCare. I have included

and noted it on your user page that I work for that company. They're not paying me to create this page, I just think it would cool to have a Wikipedia page. Let me know if there's anything else you can suggest to improve my draft. I appreciate your help!

05:44:48, 23 November 2017 review of submission by Lizzybunker

I've added the appropriate citations!

Invacio

Hi Theroadislong I've edited the text - please let me know if it's better this way I appreciate your feedback!

00:53:26, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Cmolaro


I added more 3rd party sources that are verifiable and are independent, professional sources (not personal blogs or sites). I now have 15 citations.

Please let me know what else you think is required to have it accepted?

12:54:53, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Llewol


08:40:08, 28 November 2017 review of submission by Salt&pepper12345


Hi there, thank very much for your care and consideration to to help build this page. I can understand why the review was rejected, as i hadn't cited enough sources on the first draft. I was wondering if you'd mind having a read over the latest draft and checking if it is better now thank you. SP

13:22:45, 4 December 2017 review of submission by 79.106.95.85


21:10:13, 6 December 2017 review of submission by Innocent Cuty


Dear Theroadislong

Hope you are fine and doing good.

I am requesting for a review again as the major comment for rejection/decline of this article was its Reference section or having less references. Now, the draft has been updated, and more than 20 solid references have been employed, with more historical details, and best possible bibliographic support in the light of the available literature. This single page article is now having over 25 appropriate references, and are strengthened with new data.

Your anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.

Sincere Regards

Dear Theroadislong

Thank you very much for your prompt response.

The objected references (facebook) has been udpated with the departmental URLS (links to the webpages). I think, these were the most up to dated and regularly updating references. Moreover, the last paragraph was deleted, because the book describing the paragraph and the mentioned material is in press (which is written by Dr. Ikram), and once the book got published, the three to four lines paragraph will be inserted again.

I do hope, that the draft will get approved now and will get online, as after coming across other such articles, this one seems to be far better than those.

Your prompt and positive anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.

Thanking you in anticipation

Sincere Regards

07:43:09, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Kgkg90


23:49:06, 23 December 2017 review of submission by Pearl ally


The submission's referencing was improved as advised, and I added a few more. More information on his teachings and publications were added. The page exists in 3 other Wikipedia: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell

In-depth coverage

I added RPG Site. Is that a reliable source?

02:14:50, 26 December 2017 review of submission by Pearl ally


Please see references 15,18,19,21,22

07:39:46, 28 December 2017 review of submission by Nat.johnson


Hi Theroadislong! I have recently uploaded a draft of the article "Admitad" here and you have declined it. Could you kindly explain what can I do to make it right? Is it possible to work with you as my mentor on the draft? Or, maybe, you can help with writing, could you kindly tell me what is the best option? admitad is a global company, it already helps over 630,000 people worldwide. I believe, that it needs to be on Wikipedia.

23:24:44, 4 January 2018 review of submission by Yesterdaysfire


Hi there!

I was just wondering what the issue was with my article submission? I tried to follow all the guidelines. I hope that I can make any revisions that you may require!

edited

Hi there Thanks for your comment. Made the edits per your notes on the page for David A. Hurwitz. GigiH0118

13:36:39, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Tearstosweat


More reliable references like newspaper sources(Times of India, Decaan Chronicle) are added

00:42:00, 26 February 2018 review of re-submission by Vliander


Dear Theroadislong,


Thank you for your valuable time and timely reply.


The bellow listed recognition letters and independent press publications may provide a more in-depth coverage regarding different subjects about Carl-W. Röhrig's life and work mentioned in the WIKI article.


I now additionally added the following references to the Citations and References section in the article:


8. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1992). "Newspaper Article". DIE WELT - Independent Daily Newspaper for Germany.

9. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". East Grinstead Courier, United Kingdom.

10. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1989). "Recognition Letter". by the National Geographic Society, Washington D.C.

11. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". THE PRESS, Christchurch, New Zealand.

12. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1992). "Recognition Letter". by Heinz Sielemann, Munich, Germany.

14. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". BILD Newspaper, Germany.

17. Röhrig, Carl-W. (2003). "Newspaper Article". Fränkischer Tag, Newspaper, Germany.


I am looking forward hearing from you.


Sincerely,

Vliander


Vliander (talk) 00:42:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

12:27:00, 26 February 2018 review of re-submission by Vliander

Dear Theroadislong,


The article was written from a neutral point of view and reliable sources where provided.

The questioned links in regards to Röhrig letters could be removed if required.


Sincerely,

Vliander

07:42:26, 26 April 2018 review of submission by Vnk414


I've added all the references citations to the Article and I am perfectly sure that the article is ready for it's publication and Important Note the Article is not a single percent related to any promotion of the person, Wikipedi is a free encylopedia everyone here are free to express their views. The person in article has achieve a great place in Aviation, so I doesn't think that the Article is promoting him as he doesn't requires any promotion, the Article is created so that the People could easily get information about him as Wikipedia is an easy acces Encyclopedia,Regards Vnk414 (talk) 07:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 08:25:43, 27 April 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Vroonmenon


Hi,

So I was working on this page of a company called Baseline Ventures India. When I submitted the first draft, I got feedback saying that it sounded more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia entry. So I reworked on the article in consultation with your team. And submitted the article. I have got the same feedback. I spoke to your team and worked on their feedback, I referred to other sports marketing companies like WMG, IMG, Gestifute for further references. I worked exactly on those lines. Yet it has got submitted whereas their articles with all mention of the kind of money they have made and business done appears on your website. I will await further feedback to understand why the article got rejected and how can I finally get this submitted.

Vroonmenon (talk) 08:25, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:02:03, 27 April 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Greenvintageshoe


Hi there, thanks for your feedback. No, I'm not being paid to do this and have no conflict of interest to declare. Just, it seems obvious to me - by the Google searches for 'Galsworthy wikipedia' and Wikipedia internal references, and by his 60k twitter followers and media appearances/references - that Galsworthy should have his own page. I'll find some more sources. Sorry - I'm learning with this! Caroline

Greenvintageshoe (talk) 11:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pulse Microsystems

Thank you for your feedback Theroadislong!

I added notable contributions to the apparel decoration industry. Do you have other suggestions? The company has a full list of awards and accolades, but I do not want it to sound like marketing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csgoldberg (talk • contribs) 18:39, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see where you commented about adding third party sources. Given that the company operates in a manufacturing B2B environment, the only articles are from trade publications. I was told that this is unacceptable. Is there a way of making this OK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csgoldberg (talk • contribs) 18:49, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 18:51, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

06:49:42, 28 April 2018 review of submission by Vnk414


I've added all the references citations to the Article and I am perfectly sure that the article is ready for it's publication and Important Note the Article is not a single percent related to any promotion of the person, Wikipedi is a free encylopedia everyone here are free to express their views. The person in article has achieve a great place in Aviation, so I doesn't think that the Article is promoting him as he doesn't requires any promotion, the Article is created so that the People could easily get information about him as Wikipedia is an easy access Encyclopedia,Regards Vnk414 (talk) 06:49, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

band

hello i want to make article about the music band — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vladawer457b (talk • contribs) 10:26, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Vladawer457b: Make a draft and submit it. Please do not change comments. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 10:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept my article

You have reviewed my article please help me and you can make some changes to common mistakes please submit my article Eyu Kassa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyukasssa (talk • contribs) 14:40, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm you are not notable enough for an article yet. Theroadislong (talk) 14:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Franklin

This is not an attack page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wpgjameswow (talk • contribs) 15:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well... it looks remarkably like one to me, but an admin will decide. Theroadislong (talk) 15:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse invites to WP:ORGNAME violators

First off, thanks for all the work you do reviewing AFC/draft material. I know it is a severely backlogged area and needs a all the help it can get.

That being said, I have noticed that quite often when reviewing reports at UAA, I find you have invited accounts with obvious username violations to the Teahouse, sometimes even names you have yourself reported for those violations. Does that not strike you as a bit inconsistent? Inviting them to discuss things while at the same time requesting they be blocked for obvious policy violations? It feels like a game of Good cop/bad cop only without an actual goal in mind. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BeeblebroxThe invites have not been sent by me though, they are automatically generated when declining AFCs. Theroadislong (talk) 18:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh I see there is an option to NOT invite to the Teahouse....sorry I will make sure to uncheck this when appropriate, thanks for the heads up. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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hi, so im unable to put some unsourced content or own words I read some policy you can find sources but manage to make your own words? the paragraph you deleted was from my school handbook btw and it was not from the internet and made it into my own words, and check this article though Holy Child College of Davao, Inc. No references or sources at all Davidtran84 (talk) 06:57, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see other crap exists. Theroadislong (talk) 11:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what you or I have to say about your school. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. Theroadislong (talk) 11:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ow apologize for that I'm quite new to Wikipedia but thanks Davidtran84 (talk) 07:22, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Bolding

Hello. I removed the bolding in my article as you kindly requested. I would like to ask if I can use italics instead. I think if there is some differentiation makes the reading easier as well makes some important information more visible.

Please suggest on this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartographies (talk • contribs) 13:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spamming Apology

I sincerely apologize for adding a link in Wikipedia. I did not realize this violated the code of conduct. I will not make the mistake in the future. Thank you very much. -Daniel Mains — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mainsdan (talk • contribs) 14:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

14:27:58, 1 May 2018 review of submission by Mileslong123


I do not understand why you have knocked this back. All the information is factual and independently referenced. I copied the format of Microsoft and apple who have accepted entries. Your comments say the information should be independently referenced, which it is. I have written it as a 3rd party, it is not about me. Can you please provide more guidance and be specific. Mileslong123 (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional terms include "Partnering with Worldpay they provided a total online shopping solution" "SymShop was an off the shelf shopping solution designed around easy customisation and website integration" "created audit and risk solutions for their clients" "a suite of tools that allowed companies to collaborate and embed risk management company wide" "which allowed non programmers to produce dynamic web solutions" "created a new super tool so risk and audit data could be shared and viewed together" "Symbiant claim several innovations most notable in the world or risk management" Symbiant claim several innovations most notable in the world or risk management" etc. Theroadislong (talk) 14:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think i understand what you mean now. Thank you.. I couldn't see it. Made the changes you suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mileslong123 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is the article now acceptable ? Mileslong123 (talk) 17:23, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly no I do not work for the company nor am I being paid by them. My Brother worked for them but left earlier this year, that is how I know the company and as they didn't have an entry thought it would be a good one to start my Wiki career. This company has been around since google started, they have a really interesting story and are a major player in their field. SO, your original issue was the article seemed to be biased and not independent enough, now it's the reference material that isn't independent enough or of good enough quality. So as I am independant and these are independent published articles from numerous different sources (books and magazine articles) I am at a loss as to what you consider a good enough source of reference. A person can not add an entry on a subject they know nothing about. Obviously. So for someone to be bothered enough to spend time doing an entry there has to be a passion for the subject. This passion can be found in many wiki articles. So based on this insight can you provide any constructive comments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mileslong123 (talk • contribs) 07:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong a person certainly can add an entry on something they know nothing about, anything you know about the company is irrelevant. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what you or I have to say about the company. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject.
  • This [1] is a primary source.
  • This [2] is just a listing. Its an article, why are you saying this is a listing? It's a full chapter.
  • This [3] doesn't mention Symbiant. Yes it does on page 500
  • This [4] is just a listing again. A full chapter is not a listing. This is an article. from page 25 onwards.
  • This [5] is a good reference and we need more in-depth ones like this.

Hope this is useful you can ask for further help at the Teahouse. Theroadislong (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC) What is your definition of a listing ?[reply]

Referenses at Nadezda Tokareva's page

Thank you! Please, take a look, I have changed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagittaviolin (talk • contribs) 15:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gbenga

Thanks for the help, I still need more information from you to avoid mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whizzstardom (talk • contribs) 15:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Short One Player

Thanks for your earlier review of this article.I have since made further changes and added more substance into it, including awards and overseas performances. Appreciate this could be accepted. Thanks. Xiaomao8788 19:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xiaomao8788 (talk • contribs)

I have referenced a source as requested. Still not posting

Sir,

I have referenced a source as requested by you. My posting is still being taken down. Could you please tell me specifically what I am doing wrong so I can do research and or ask the correct questions in order to get it corrected. I am confused. Dewitt Travis (talk) 20:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks,

You have apparently uploaded documents to Google Drive to use as a source this is just not acceptable. See WP:RS for what constitutes a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 20:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable source I met criteria.

Sir,

That is what I thought. Please be advised that my source meets the criteria listed. It is a sworn statement, a deposition, taken by a former Dean of MUSC.

Wikipedia. ...Must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet.

A third party produced the deposition of the dean under oath. The third party is reliable and it is archived. The posting of the deposition and whom took it and where it is archived should meet all of the creitia of wikipedia. I made a statement and I am proving that it is correct, using the school's own words as the appropriate source.

Wikipedia

The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content. In general, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication.

My statement is 100 percent accurate. I am using the school's sworn statement as my source. To me it meet the criteria that the source must be reliable for the statement being made. I will try it again. I will document the third party who created the documents under oath. I will document where the document is archived. I will document the school official who made the remarks. I will provide a link to the actual document showing that is is a true reliable statement.

Please after I post it again do not take it down. I am meeting all of the requirements listed by wikipedia. I will have the location of where the document is and the third party who produced the document of my source under oath.

ThanksDewitt Travis (talk) 22:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Dewitt, you don't seem to understand what we mean by a reliable source. An article in the New York Times has been checked for accuracy, bias, etc. by editors, copy editors, and possibly fact-checkers. A deposition is one person's unsupported statement. The NYT article might be wrong; the deposition might be a pure jewel of clear truth. That does not matter when speaking in our collective voice. A statement tucked away in an archive somewhere does not constitute any form of published source, and certainly fails the language you quote about being subject to "more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing". --Orange Mike | Talk 23:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Orangemike: The poorly sourced content has been added back for a third time into the lede section of Medical University of South Carolina. Theroadislong (talk) 07:09, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

? changes required

This is a spiritual reference and holistic healing method.. Why no reference in wikipedia it is the same as the word Karma. or Colour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GCMind (talk • contribs) 10:43, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Draft:Karmacology - Study of Colour and its affects on your Karma Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hello, Manuel Botchway here you left me a message to join teahouse, but before i join i will be very happy to have someone mentor me on how to be better as a writter on wikipedia and would be happy if you can help me. --Manuel Botchway (talk) 11:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Medical university of South Carolina

Sir,

I saw your edits. When I clicked it it did bring me to this page documented an English Wikipedia content guideline. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions.

As you know I did use the sworn testimony from a dean at the medical university of South Carolina, which was recorded and archived by a third party whom I documented as my source and I also provided the sworn testimony to be viewed by all. It is not a published article in a book, but it does meet the overall purpose: Is the statement true and can it be backed up and verified by a reliable source.

I think this is an important edit on MUSC... The good and the bad. The school deprives students of their constitional rights before dismissing them by providing them no due process of law...Dewitt Travis (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The fact remains it is NOT a reliable source, it is a primary source, you have edit warred to include the content, please also see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Theroadislong (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded to your comments, can you please read my responses and relook at your findings. What is your definition of a listing and no mention. What you refer to has listings are chapters and no mention is a half page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mileslong123 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The "articles" are just routine business listings or they are written by the company CEO neither of which are suitable reliable sources If you want a second opinion ask at the The Teahouse, or re-submit and I will let another reviewer look at it instead. Theroadislong (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Testia,_an_Airbus_company

Hello dear Theroadislong,

Thanks a lot for your previous review of my article. Would you mind having a second look?

I have made several changes, and I beleive after all those versions we are getting closer now :).

Cheers and thanks in advance!

Teddy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Testia,_an_Airbus_company — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddy.canadas (talk • contribs) 10:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for your comment!

I re-wrote quite completely the article again. Does that look better to you? As you indicated I: > removed the promotional tone > made the history section in prose format rather than list > removed the external links

Thanks a lot,

Teddy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddy.canadas (talk • contribs) 12:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel S. Trott article submission

Spiritandfire444 (talk) 12:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Hi Theroadislong: 5/7/18 I am new to wikipedia so please forgive me inexperience. What specifically would help my draft article be accepted? Thanks![reply]

Guillermo

Topic for Draft: Tri-Valley Sikh center : status : declined by you.

Hey theroadislong,! Thank you for your time to review my article so my question is that before rejection did you referred to its talk page I have posted A bunch of links of official news media here. So to your reference can you explain me how that well publicized and official news papers are owned by me.?? I didnt get that plus I didnt do references on the main page because in comment I told I am a Newbie and Dont know the proper way for citations So asked for help.!

Plus moreover this is not A my private place It is a religious Temple like any other temple in the area they have wiki .! This was new one So I though I would make one.! Instead of helping me you guys keep on rejecting please help me how can I get this published to the mainspace.!

thank you.! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taransingh (talk • contribs) 17:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the references to the article page, nobody will expect to see them on the talk page. As to your other comments, I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

External link on the body of article (Lucent University)

Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for taking your time to review my article.

I've removed all the external links from the body of the message.

Should I remove them from the External Links section too?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acirmandello (talk • contribs) 20:20, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed two irrelevant ones, the article needs independent sources to establish notability unless it has been written about in independent published sources we cannot have an article about it. Theroadislong (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

— Preceding signed comment added by Theroadislong (talk • contribs) 20:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May I submit the Draft for review again? There is no problem for me to have that links removed. Acirmandello (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2018
You can submit for review again, but it will be rejected again because it has no references. Theroadislong (talk) 20:41, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for helping me. I've added two references regarding the branding registration given by United States Patent and Trademark Office and the Letter of Exemption given by Florida Department of Education. Can you tell me if they are valid sources? Acirmandello (talk) 21:17, 7 May 2018

Draft:Tri-Valley Sikh center

Thanks for your help should I add more for this church pr should I resubmit it.??? Because Today I got clearance from the church for this information amd they appreciated your time and told If you need any additional information because this case was in news from 2014 and now their seems light as most of the people in area don’t know what exactly happened sp for that purpose and for the information about the chruch I had written this article.!

btw thank you so much for your help.! It matter Alot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taransingh (talk • contribs) 23:50, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need clearance from the church? Wikipedia has no interest in what they might want to say, only what reliable sources say, which you have now added, I will let another reviewer take a look, thank you for the barnstar but I am not an admin. Theroadislong (talk) 08:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What references would be best for my article

Thanks for reviewing my article - I see what you mean about my references. Most of my information has come from books on the subject and a few documents of demolition records. Is it worth putting these books (with page references) on my references or must I find actual websites and online evidence. I am fascinated by the peerage system in Britain and would find it very satisfying for Wikipedia to have a complete encyclopaedia of all the peerage titles, (even the slightly obscure and unimpressive ones such as the Earldom of Deheubarth) so would greatly appreciate any advice you can give me.

Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TitusAndro (talk • contribs) 07:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Books are great references, sources don't have to be online, see WP:REFB for help with formatting. Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Maui Wowee

hi can you check my draft if its ok? thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuyaphong (talk • contribs) 10:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong I hope you're not ignoring message I need you guys to check my draft Draft:Maui Wowee  :(
We are all volunteers here, constant badgering will win no favours, please be patient, your draft is poorly written with only two low quality sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Raymondskie99 Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) Hi, people! I thought Maui Wowie was a kind of grass? – it was in the 60s (yes, I know, if you can remember the 60s you weren't there!). I've speedy-nominated the draft as G12, unambiguous copyright violation. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jamie Langton

Hi- am totally confused? This was submitted to Wiki previous (under British TV producers/directors) with changes requested to comply with guidelines. Also, I'm sorry if you feel I haven't done enough to qualify being included, but if after 30 years of being responsible for some of the UK's top TV shows and talent, then I'm not sure what does. I've noticed under Educating Essex the director was logged as David clews, please be aware I was the gallery director of this show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:3601:5800:A0B4:145:9852:5F96 (talk) 11:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you are referring to. Your edit history only shows this one edit. Can you tell me what article you are working on? Theroadislong (talk) 11:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I believe he's referring to Draft:Jamie Langton, which I declined earlier. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Marc di Saverio

Can you help me to write a bio with me? I think it is important, and i can prove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoparid 3000 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft has no sources. Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by reliable sources so that information can be verified.

We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject.If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article.

Citation needed for Livermore Gurdware?

So what to add more.! In reference there is everything what can else I post.?? Can u tell me.??— Preceding unsigned comment added by Taransingh (talk • contribs) 12:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission

I have make a few edits and resubmitted the draft: SerenataFlowers.com. I would be grateful if you would please review it and inform me of any more issue with the page. If there is, your help would be highly appreciated. Thank you. Jamesreadings (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission: Bret Weinstein

I've resubmitted this article that was initially rejected for not demonstrating the requisite notability of the subject. Since that rejection, Weinstein's notoriety in third-party outlets (like NYT) has increased dramatically and the article now reflects that fact. Let me know. Lukacris (talk) 18:17, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SerenataFlowers.com draft page

Hello, I have searched within Wikipedia for articles of the requested awards, and could find none. What about if I delete the awards section, would the article have any chance of being published? Thank you. Best regards, Jamesreadings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesreadings (talk • contribs) 18:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SerenataFlowers.com

Hello, I have searched within Wikipedia for articles of the requested awards, and could find none. What about if I delete the awards section, would the article have any chance of being published? Thank you. Best regards, Jamesreadings. Jamesreadings (talk) 02:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But how would that make the website notable? Theroadislong (talk) 06:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about the website or the awards? Jamesreadings (talk) 12:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If the website SerenataFlowers.com had received notable awards then it might help the draft pass WP:GNG at the moment there is no indication of why it is notable enough for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 12:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote (in February): "Wikipedia cannot be used a reference. I am astonished that someone would actually pay you for this poor quality work". I am not. Clients who pay a Wikipedia editor are often just as ignorant as the paid editors. Btw, that flack has been reincarnated. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have forgotten to which draft article I was referring to here? Theroadislong (talk) 07:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

re poss delete terence hogan

It was kind of you to let me know this is being discussed. I put up the page years ago. I recently came back to it to upload pictures. I wanted the page to say that crime does not pay. The page was edited by someone very kind. The photographs were deleted, that is fine. I am not amending or asking to add photos to this article anymore. I have a number of citations I have put in. I am so new to this that I am lost. I am so sorry to write to you but I cant understand why this is happening. I thought wiki was a family of kind people willing to help. It is all very upsetting and I do not know what to do? would you mind giving me your thoughtd kareenzKareenza (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by reliable sources so that information can be verified.

We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. It is possible that your father is notable enough for an article, but at present the sources don't support this adequately. I don't know anything about the problem with photographs. Theroadislong (talk) 09:45, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

terence hogan

hello I think most of my article has been deleted now including the photograph. I dont understand why someone would be this cruel to do this. I cited everything and the original article has been online since 2011. I am new to wiki and some people just are not giving me a chance. I think the article is not on a deletion list but someone has more or less pulled every thin from it so it is a skeleton. Why would anyone do that, osh it is so upsetting and it is personal as someone obviously does not like me kareenzaKareenza (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE don't take this personally! All Wikipedia article require citations for ALL content that is included, the content as written was not correctly sourced but it can all be added back as long as there are suitable sources. I would strongly advice you not to edit it and trust the community to create a worthwhile article it will happen I assure you. Theroadislong (talk) 18:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You are very kind yes I have taken it personally as I am so new and I put in complete citations inc isbn and publisher etc of everything. Youtube link to the bbc which had researchers to check all facts. I detailed every book he has been in. so I am not sure why these citations were not looked at there were four, but prob not correctly put in. Anyway I will take your kind valuable advice and hope maybe someone will help create a better article but I have a feeling it will be forgotten which would be a shame as I try and use it to tell people crime does not pay. I had an awful childhood, always on the run and then stuck in boarding school so I never glamourise crime. But here I am moaning, forgive me and thank you again for your hopeful words to me kareenzaKareenza (talk) 18:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please read Wikipedia:RIGHTGREATWRONGS that is not what Wikipedia can be used for, we also cannot use content sourced to The Daily Mail or Youtube as they are not considered reliable sources I'm afraid. All good wishes, I am working on the article. Theroadislong (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Btw the Guardian newspaper has emailed me a copy of Terence Hogans obituary which I can send if that helps re verification? kareenzaKareenza (talk) 11:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC) wow thank you, i have all the books here that he has been in and rare photos used in the article which is copyrighted to me but look thank you again and I will try and get some sleep and stop worrying! Very very best wishes kareenzaKareenza (talk) 19:09, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The books would be excellent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, TRIL - I was actually in the middle of citing sources right about the time you removed a bulk of the article. I saved it, and was wondering if you'd be okay with me replacing what you've done and adding back what I did before the edit conflict, and then you can go back in and delete or fix as needed? Atsme📞📧 19:17, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The previous content was not neutral in tone and not sourced please feel free to add your content now as long as it is sourced. Theroadislong (talk) 19:21, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I know - I was in the middle of working on it - I added some sources, but it needs more work. The user who has been working on it has a COI and should not edit any of it. Atsme📞📧 19:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please note...Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. You have restored unsourced content. Theroadislong (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong The Guardian newspaper has just sent me a copy of Terence Hogans obituary if that helps for verification as it includes all his crimes and home life. kareenzaKareenza (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Clive Wilkins

Hi there Theroadislong,

Maybe this is the time the Clive Wilkins entry needs to be revised and seriously updated with more recent info. It has, as you have no doubt spotted, been some years since it was last looked at. Your comments suggest that the article needs references. How should references be added to the text? Please respond to explain and maybe give examples. I will update the entry and add verifiable references in the text and hope that moves the article in the right direction. If however the method of present of said info is incorrect please inform me and I will endeavour to change things to suit. With a bit of luck I might be able to work out how to add photos too. Best wishes

Jean Scott Thomson (talk) 10:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)Jean Scott Thomson.[reply]

Please read WP:REFB for help with referencing. I have had a quick look but can find no independent sources that mention him in depth. It will be deleted if you cannot find any. I was at college with him back in 1972 so would like his article to stay if possible! Theroadislong (talk) 11:02, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clive Wilkins Artist and author

Hi there Theroadislong, You know sorting reference (for fear of losing the entry) on the wikipedia entry for Clive Wilkins, artist is not easy. Can you look over the changes I have made and see what you think? Feel free to tidy the entry up if you can. or alternatively give me some clues as to how this works.

Please don't delete the entry after 7 days as you suggest. It can be worked on to be improved. Best wishes Jean Scott Thomson (talk) 13:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)Jean Scott Thomson[reply]

I am not an admin so cannot delete the article but if it was sent to articles for deletion WP:AFD it would certainly be deleted as it is in a terrible state, the only working reference is a mirror (copy of Wikipedia) so isn't valid, the other external links you have added are primary sources. Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by reliable sources so that information can be verified. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Do you have a connection with Wilkins by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clive Wilkins

Dear Theroadislong, Clive wonders who you might be if, as you say, you were on a foundation course together. Did you know each other well? Indeed, might you come to our aid and help salvage this Wikipedia page? I am sure we would be most happy to meet up to get this working properly. Are the references to research papers published as part of 'The Captured Thought' not viable then? This is work published and endorsed by an independent organisation,'The Royal Society' no less as well, as other notable scientific magazines, and indeed the providence to do this work came out of Clive's experience in both painting and writing as well as his position as artist in residence in the department of Psychology at Cambridge University. The opportunity to speak at the Hay Festival on two occasions is likewise an independant accolade that suggests some work of worth. Could you give some clue as to what is required here to make this work? Not being a regular contributor to Wikipedia results in all this seeming a little foreign and difficult to navigate I am afraid. Is there any way of having a page set up for us professionally in order to get this working efficiently?

Best wishes Jean Scott Thomson (talk) 16:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)Jean Scott Thomson[reply]

As I have a conflict of interest in that I went to college with him, it would be inappropriate for me to edit the article. Professional paid editing is VERY much frowned upon also. You should declare your conflict of interest on your user page and on the article's talk page too. Other editors are now editing and I have faith that if Clive is notable then the article will be cleaned up, revised and hopefully kept. All good wishes. 16:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Clive Wilkins

Hi The road is long, indeed it is!! phew. Please have a look and tell me if the changes that have been made comply. This is very difficult and complex it seems~ at least it is for someone who has no idea what they are doing~ that's me of course! best wishes Jean Scott Thomson (talk) 17:29, 14 May 2018 (UTC)Jean Scott Thomson[reply]

I'm afraid it is not improving, I would strongly suggest you stop editing the article and allow other neutral editors to take a look. Theroadislong (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clive Wilkins has been deleted

Oh well... it’s not life threatening. Sorry we couldn’t fix it.

-)))

It’s all probably for the best... it all seemed just too complicated.

Get in touch if you feel you could help. You would be welcome to.

zapikfutura@hotmail.com

Best wishes

Jean Scott Thomson (talk) 22:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC) Jean Scott Thomson[reply]

== Terence Hogan ==Template:Theroadislong

Hi Please dont give up on this. They took everything down and it is not the same. I am getting help with pics but am fighting the system. I feel very ignorant and not allowed to have a voice. I thought people were helping and maybe the heart of the article has gone for other peoples pleasure not mine. PLEASE rehelp me if you can. I have now got permission from THE daily mail re photos that Rehman wants. I am so over stressed with this I cant tell you. I am doing it because of my step mum who is very ill and may pass and I wanted her to see this. I do not know who is helping and who is not, I keep trying to please people and doing what they say because I believed they know best but this seems not right as I have been told so many things. I was accused of vanadalism, I was blocked, then the article was up for deletion, now all that has been reverted, now people drop in and out but I dont think they really care and ...I DONT KNOW what is happening, People come and go apart from Rehman who is doing pics. I am frightened that it will be left and just not finished. PLEASE PLEASE come back. No one approaches me and says are you ok with this karen, from my view I would never treat a person like this who has no knowledge of wiki. I have had to go to my Daily Mail editors and ask for copyright permission. I have had to worry my step mum, but Rehman has been amazing, but the article has been shredded and nobody cares. Maybe it is because of my newspaper who I work for I write for HEALTH and dont need someone to send me their sympathy for who I write for and I am very offended. Please support me, I am very lost in all this, and sometimes changes seem to be just for someone to say I know more than you but I have heard wiki does not like changes by a relative of an articles- I dont know what to say. My family cant believe this pls theroadislong help!!! kareenza

@Kareenza: I'm not sure what the problem is? The article is in much better shape now apart from the last section which requires more citations. I'm afraid that Wikipedia doesn't consider the Daily Mail a reliable source for anything, so that source is best avoided, as for photographs if the copyright is yours (ie. you took the photographs) then you are free to upload them. No article is ever finished they are always works in progress, and this one is improving all the time. Theroadislong (talk) 14:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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