User talk:Doug Weller

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Translated artciles

Hello DW. I have translated this article from de.wikipeda. There are additional sources and contents though. Is there a specific tag indicating that an article has been translated from x.wiki? Puduḫepa 09:09, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

(talk page gnome)@Puduḫepa: {{Translated page}} may be what you are looking for. If it's too much trouble, as long as there's a clear enough message on the talk page about the origins, this is sufficient for copyright attribution. I hope this helps, —PaleoNeonate – 23:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, @PaleoNeonate:. If I understand correctly, the template should not be on the mainspace but on the talk page? Puduḫepa 06:21, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Puduḫepa: absolutely. You're welcome, —PaleoNeonate – 06:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Duck-sock

Hi Doug. Thanks for your help on a recent SPI case. You suggested that article protection could be used. This would be quite useful, as this user jumps from IP range on a very regular basis. Their latest target is this article, a tournament that starts tomorrow. Would it be possible to protect this for the next few days, ideally for a week? No worries if not. Thanks again. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:18, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

For your work on the Williamson-thing(s). Perhaps I should have seen that coming, but I didn't. If it goes no further I see no personal problems. I guess I'll notice if it happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: do let me know, by email if more appropriate. I've got reason to worry though about the Admin he targeted. Doug Weller talk 19:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Will do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:13, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

The article is better now though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

User refusing to gain consensus for their edits

Hi again. I reverted a user over at Antifa (United States) telling them to gain consensus for their edits in the talk page first, since they drastically changed the lede and other parts of the article, and they refused to do so. Can you please do something about this? Thanks, QuestFour (talk) 00:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Fort Ancient Culture dating system

Hey, thanks for making the changes back to what the article was originally using. Someone else other than me had originally changed the headings on the various section fro CE to AD, I just changed the body to match, not knowing that the headings had recently been changed. I just want to match the manual of style and have them all be the same on an individual article. And whoever did change the headings likely is doing so elsewhere, rather haphazardly, without even changing the articles actual text. So I would advise you to look in on what he is doing, since neither of us want that, or articles to be changed from their original dating systems.NDV135 (talk) 08:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)NDV135

This doesn't make sense

I don't understand why you changed "in order" to "out of order" here [1]. Also, you can't change your post after multiple people had already agreed with you below that a block is in order. Please go back and WP:REDACT properly -- striking old text and re-dating with ";edited ~~~~~" and hopefully adding an explanation for your change. Also fix the user link that's missing the closing brackets. Why is a block out of order if a ban is in order? Does not make sense. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 08:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Requested merge - needs an admin to execute

Doug, back in May there was a discussion at Talk:Alexander the Great in the Quran which seems to have resulted in a consensus that that article should be merged into Dhul-Qarnayn, with some indications that the article Cyrus the Great in the Quran should be similarly treated. (Both Alex and Cyrus articles look like pov forks to me, no doubt with a deep history). User:Mathglot suggested this towards the end of the discussion but didn't action it because he was involved in the discussion - and in fact no one actioned it. A user called User:AhmadF.Cheema objects to this, but he's currently in an edit war with me and seems not to understand Wikipedia policy at all - he wants to treat traditional Islamic scholars as RS, which they are not. Anyway, if you don't fear getting involved, you might like to contact Mathglot (is he an admin?) with a view to actioning this. And as for me, I really, really want to get out of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.209.79 (talk) 05:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

P.s. - I've left a message on Mathglot's talk page too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.209.79 (talk) 05:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Z. Williamson (2nd nomination)

@Koncorde: suggested I pass this information to you directly. More canvassed people, more hate on his facebook page. [2], [3], [4], [5] and a legal threat [6]. Thanks. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 12:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Related, I think this might be the Trasel thing again. [7] It looks like they are trying to fake a signature to an account. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 13:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@Koncorde:Also, he is back to making extreme statements in canvassing. Things like "Wikiphags" [8] and "Wikipedo" [9] and "subhuman liberal shit" [10]. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

He's blocked and commuunity banned. That's all we can do, but reporting him to Facebook might be next. Doug Weller talk 16:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I am concerned about the effects otherwise. I created a deletion discussion page about an author I've never heard of because one of his canvassed editors [11] removed a proposal from it. It was closed by Hullabaloo Wolfowitz with what I feel is a very un-civil commentary accusing me of attempting disruption and not writing it in good faith. I don't care the eventual status, if the person is notable and the article can be cleaned up with good sources that's great because it means my discussion creation did some good and poked some people into motion fixing things, but I dislike the accusation. If I read the policy correctly, is it not the case that canvassed persons are considered editing on behalf of the banned person? Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 17:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Conflict of interest may be considered, but at the same time many people are personally invested in many topics and edit without issue thousands of times per day as they follow the Wikipedia rules regarding neutrality, accuracy and verifiability. Koncorde (talk) 18:12, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Ask at WP:ANI but you need to show they've been asked to do it. Doug Weller talk 18:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I understand, what is needed? For instance, in timeframe this [12] appears to have been done in response to one of his posts today that I linked above. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 18:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, @Letcreate123: had already posted the same question but I am asking again with some of the latest I have found at WP:ANI as you suggested. Just letting you know. Thank you again. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 23:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Just letting you and @Koncorde: know that I have followed up again with WP:ANI as the attacks this morning have gotten worse not better. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 15:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Also should I report this to WP:ANI or is there another place it should be reported? Jmaynard appears to be editing on Williamson's behalf. [13] "Jay Maynard Actually, I expect Tom Kratman to be next." "Aaron Bosen They already tried." "Glenn Edward McNally Jay Maynard didnt they already go after tom" "Michael Z. Williamson Yeah, they're in the process of trying to delete his right now." 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

The above was followed within minutes by Jmaynard making three ugly and inciteful accusations of a conspiracy against "conservative" authors, [14] [15] [16] [17]. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 16:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

[18] "Jay Maynard So I see. Commented over there, too." 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

This looks like wp:outing have they (that is they not anyone else) said this is their YouTube account)?Slatersteven (talk) 16:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

First it's Facebook not YouTube. Second Williamson is banned because in part of things he previously did on this very Facebook account [19]. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 16:27, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Fine, @Koncorde: too. [20]. I quit. You do whatever you want or need to, I've been called a "dog fellator" today and I've had it. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Revdel at Gareth Arnold

Some edits to Gareth Arnold should be redacted per WP:CRD#2, I think: [21] and probably [22] and [23]. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:24, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Taken care of. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ken Power (2nd nomination)

A tag has been placed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ken Power (2nd nomination) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Duplicate of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ken_Power

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Masum Reza^📞 17:50, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Masumrezarock100: the only reason I didn't was so that anyone seeing [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion#Can someone fix the mess Twinkle has made to my Ken Power AfD? That's been done and I've deleted it. Doug Weller talk 17:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting the page. And sorry for messing up. I am embarrassed that I did 2 reverts. Lol. Masum Reza^📞 18:01, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Masumrezarock100: don't worry, no problem at all. Doug Weller talk 18:03, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

E-mail

Got your e-mail. I'll comply. Tgeorgescu (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Response

Hmmnn... Is that a nasty threat to block me that I see there on my talk page that proves my point about moderators playing favors inappropriately to other users? Because that is the way I'm going to choose to interpret it, at the rate your going, here. Pragmatically, unless you want to end up added to the DRN, please stay out of DRN matters that don't directly concern you. Thank you for flying. Goodbye. 24.155.244.245 (talk) 08:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)