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DYK for Space climate

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some bubble tea for you!

Credits where it is due. Thanks a lot for relisting AfDs with vote stuffed Keep comments and thereby maintaining the sanctity of AfD. Cheers from a fellow AfD contributor. DBigXrayᗙ 11:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...and in case you are wondering, I was referring to this excellent relist. --DBigXrayᗙ 11:31, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Checking on Measures for Justice article creation

I see that on January 30 2019 you removed a Requested Article idea in the Business and economics/Organizations section under M, with the note "Removal of idea - selected for work." Am I right in thinking this was the suggestion for an article on Measures for Justice? And if so, do you know when this article might be posted? Thank you so much for taking up the suggestion.

Egallo25 (talk) 19:57, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Egallo25: - hi there. It's tricky for me to say - my biggest article I did in 3 days when I had nothing to do, others took a fair while. If you want to work on it then go ahead, I can always feed in any content I've made - just let me know if you move it into mainspace (article space). It can also be put back in the requested articles if you want, though if you spot someone else take it, let me know. I'll take it off if I get close to finishing my version. Nosebagbear (talk) 20:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: Thank you for the update. Since I work for the organization as a freelancer, I think I'm not supposed to create the article and that it instead should be written by an established Wikipedia editor. We're just eagerly awaiting it. If it went back into requested articles I'd worry that it would take a while for someone else to notice it, so I think it's best in your hands. Thank you
@Nosebagbear: If you don't think you will complete the Measures for Justice article soon, could you put it back into the Requested Article section, in hopes someone else might do it? It's been seven months, and nine months since the idea was suggested, so we're just hopeful that we can get it done somehow soon. Thanks so much!
@Egallo25: - sorry, I missed this, (for future note, to "ping" someone, you need to add the ~~~~ at the end of your whole message). You are of course right to do so. I'll only take it off the RA if I've made major progress in writing it (which I only do if I'm going to finish it). Nosebagbear (talk) 09:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WES

Good to meet at the WES LSE event. Andrew D. (talk) 15:39, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson: - and you! Had a look at your userpage post-event and realised I missed a chance to talk about article creation. Nosebagbear (talk) 08:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In the last week, I've created: Beach cleaning; Davies White; Elizabeth Georgeson; Harold George Jerrard; Mordaunt Cohen; Political Achievements of the Earl of Dalkeith. I now realise that that's not quite one a day so I should increase my pace to match the prodigious Jess Wade. So, while I'm in this mood, it's still a good time to discuss article creation. What's on your mind? Andrew D. (talk) 08:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC>

you havent seen anything

unless you have seen {{welcome-menu}} JarrahTree 12:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree: - I feel that I'm missing a joke (unless this is just a very specific wiki-advertising piece), but can't remember what it was in reference for - apologies for any humour foiled. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:14, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- the sheer volume of links via that template outdoes any concern about links -(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:UniKoln&oldid=898561534) -I dont think many people take much notice of guidelines anymore never apologise - see my user page on that - we all are terribly serious here... JarrahTree 00:04, 25 May 2019 (UTC>

Draft:Eugene Maynard Freedman

I notice you put Draft:Eugene Maynard Freedman under review. I was also digging into it, and would strongly recommend declining it because it cherry picks from the available sources to memorialise him rather than being a neutral profile. It whitewashes by giving undue weight to positive things while ignoring those that are negative. I'll elaborate in a concurring (or dissenting) opinion when you finish your review. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Worldbruce: - I passed it as I felt it wasn't so drastic as that it would fail AfD - however my reading of the two good sources (plus a little bit in a couple of books I found when looking for an additional source) do indeed indicate significant hostility towards the man. I planned on cutting the gordian knot by just adding a paragraph myself Nosebagbear (talk) 15:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ,I have corrected errors and removed all the external links on the main text of my article . I would like to know if there are other parts i should correct or add as well Rumbidzainokutenda (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:39, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:2017 Stockholm truck attack

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:2017 Stockholm truck attack. Legobot (talk) 04:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hope that answers your questions

Hope that answers your questions. If you have any others, feel free to ask. Buffs (talk) 21:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AfC Response

Hi , i have 

all unnecessary links in the main text . please can you advice if there are other part I should correct as well

Rumbidzainokutenda (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Translation from Russian to English the article about The LitRes company

Thank you for your answer here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk

1. > Firstly, you need to fix the copyright, as you've declare it's a translation of another wikipedia version. Please make a blank edit and in the summary add a URL link to the view history of the article you've duplicated this from

- Can you please explain to me what the "blank edit" is? And if it's not difficult for you to provide me more details how I can do it?

2. > While this comes from another Wikipedia, that doesn't mean it meets our rules. Wikipedias can set different rules, and en-wiki has strict notability rules for companies, so better sourcing is needed.

- But what if sources are in Russian not in English?

3. > While it's not extreme promotionalism, it reads more like what they'd say on their website, listing all the good things they do/offer. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

- Can you please explain what the article should be about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashashko (talk • contribs)

Firstly, please make sure to sign your comment with ~~~~ - I do lots of AFC stuff so helps me track do who I'm talking to :)
1) A blank edit is just an edit where you don't make any substantive change, in order to put something in the edit summary. You have to change something so people often fix a typo or add a space somewhere. You edit in the same way you would normally add content. You want to add the URL of the history of the article. (e.g. if you were duplicating content from Politics of Asia you would cite https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Politics_of_Asia&action=history )
2) Sources in Russian (or any other language) are fine.
3) For this I'd suggest having a look at some other company articles. You should find a few yourself - you don't want to look at massive pages like Google, but smaller ones like AWB Limited, which you'll see gives a more balanced summary both about the company generally but also good and bad representation in the news. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:55, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Fairness Project

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fairness Project you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen you mention your distaste for the oversighter icon in a couple places and I'm curious what about it you find so "creepy"? I'd say the pending changes icon is far more unsettling, and what I thought you meant at first. Wug·a·po·des​ 22:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I actually quite like how creepy the oversight logo is - I just find it entertainingly Orwellian - the logo gives the idea that there are bits and pieces of the encyclopedia being taken out without anyone knowing (I realise on a very literal, minimalist sense, this is accurate).
I find the pending changes logo a bit odd, but without the well crafted sinisterness Nosebagbear (talk) 22:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I misread then. I always thought the symbolism was kind of clever, but now that you put it like that I agree that it is kinda creepy to think about! Best, Wug·a·po·des​ 23:15, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't have said you misread - creepy isn't generally a positive description to give something! It definitely is clever symbolism, and it's interesting to see how it gets interpreted (perhaps I have too much paranoia). Cheers Nosebagbear (talk)

Your GA nomination of Fairness Project

The article Fairness Project you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Fairness Project for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 10:41, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Southern strategy

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Southern strategy. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Service award

This has been long due. Thanks for being such an amazing all round contributor. --DBigXrayᗙ 17:31, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This editor is a Veteran Editor II and is entitled to display this Bronze Editor Star.
@DBigXray: - that's very appreciated, though I feel a bit ridiculous claiming my technical length as an editor - 18 months ago I'd only made about 150 edits! But I was really happy to get my GA, I'd fallen a bit away from content creation so it was nice to do some more. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would not worry about technicalities. It's hard to stay away from Wikipedia even if you are not editing, unless ofcourse you are in a cave, (in that case, you will have better things to worry about). IMHO, you have already compensated the years with your edit counts. So be proud. I had read your recent rfa votes and was glad to see us sitting on the same side  of the fence, no matter which. Shows that we think similarly. Congratulations on your GA. It makes you a step ahead of me since I am yet to get one. I will be glad to collaborate if you find yourself overwhelmed with a GAR. Cheers. --DBigXrayᗙ 18:11, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New evidence regarding the notability of ADSR_Online_Midi_Editor_and_Player

I am respectfully requesting that you change your "Delete" vote regarding ADSR_Online_Midi_Editor_and_Player, in consideration of the following new information that has just surfaced:

I just discovered that Classical_Archives (the largest classical music site in the world), has endorsed the product that this article describes, for the past two years. The following website contains the statement "MidiPro.org is the ONLY Online Midi Editor": https://www.classicalarchives.com/midi.html

Considering the following facts, I can't imagine a stronger indication of notability:

  • Classicalarchives.com does not accept any advertising or user-entered editorial .
  • Their website does not mention any other Midi Editors, so they are not a "Midi Directory" website.
  • I have no relationship whatsoever with Classicalarchives.com

The following webpage shows that this endorsement has been prominently displayed on their website since at least April 26 2017 https://web.archive.org/web/20170426053227/https://www.classicalarchives.com/midi.html.

The reason you gave for your Delete vote was "I still don't think sufficient sourcing is available". I hope you agree that that reason no longer stands.

Thank you for your consideration. MySonLikesTrump (talk) 23:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Betty Cantor-Jackson

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete DYK nomination

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eva_Dichand

Hi There i don't know if this is the right place to ask you about the submission process of our article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eva_Dichand But i though might as well give it a try here?

So i was wondering about your comment: "The first source is interesting, it's in effect an indirect circular reference to ourselves (or our German siblings) Nosebagbear (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)" What does this mean exactly. I could not make sense of it. Do you mean we are referencing wrong or that the resource needs to be removed. Also i don't know why the article was rejected as it is a translation from a german Wikipedia article that is already published in the german Wikipedia.

Please help us understand what to do here.

Thanks (Heute marko (talk) 08:29, 26 August 2019 (UTC))[reply]

@Heute marko: - hi there.
So you can't cite to Wikipedia (either ours or the German version). This source seems to specifically duplicate what is in wiki, though I can't tell if it does a check of what it says. As such, I was wondering whether it "picked up" the unreliability of wikipedia or not. It wouldn't need to be removed, but it won't add to notability, which leads us to -
The draft was declined (not rejected, which is more final), for not showing sufficient notability about the individual. This is a judgement on there being enough reliable, in-depth, independent, secondary coverage. Most of your sources are "primary" (rather than secondary media like newspapers, books etc), so can't show notability. Your last source is good.
It may be suitable for de-wiki: different wikipedias have different rules.
Generally, if you want to ask your reviewer why you were declined in more detail (often worth doing), go to their talk page User talk:Theroadislong. If you think that reviewer was wrong (I don't believe so), then go to the AFC Help Desk. That's only if it should have passed as it was, rather than if you make some changes. If you find some more sources, resubmit with the blue button in the red box. Good luck. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TBack

over Signpost comments. ∯WBGconverse 11:21, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding page Draft: Shripad Vaidya

Respected Sir, As per your valuable guidance on the Afc help desk dated 5 August, 2019, I have selected 4 best sources which are as follows. I hope these justify the notability of the subject but your suggestions are welcome. If your authority feels that the topic is notable then I will move forward to reduce the references as per your previous advice. I have always made the changes as per the suggestions of previous reviewers. You may check accordingly. Please do the needful and kindly inform the changes required. The above mentioned references are as follows: 1) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Environmentalist-poet-eyes-Guinness-record/articleshow/6042329.cms 2) http://d18vwzocbrcup1.cloudfront.net/encyc/6/2017/05/06/NCpage_7.pdf 3) https://www.ehitavada.com/index.php?edition=NCpage&date=2019-09-01&page=1 4) http://epaperlokmat.in/lokmattimes/sub-editions/Nagpur%20First/-1/6#Article/LOKTIME_CPLS_20190903_6_5/224px Please Guide. Thanks. MA$HRVA (Talk) Write Right!! 17:46, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MA$HRVA: - thank you for getting back to me. I would say those references probably make him notable. Notable enough that at least the community as a whole should judge on the matter. The other issues, named both by me and the other article reviewers, remain. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: Thanks a lot. I do not know how to proceed further because the page review button of the page has disappeared. So, as per the guidance of your authority I will make the changes in the number of references. After making the changes I will again contact with your authority. Meanwhile, if anything in addition which I can do, please inform. Thanks.

MA$HRVA (Talk) Write Right!! 17:10, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for your help. Dthomsen8 (talk) 17:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AfC submission

Hello sir, I hope you are doing well in life. I writing this message because I saw that you are an active user in the AfC helpdesk. I wrote there but I did not get any answer yet. So, I writing directly to you hoping that you can answer my questions. The draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Plastiq) that I am working on was declined but I updated some of the references, can you lighten me aboute on the notability issue? what kind of sources would you consider reliable and independent? or what part of the article is poorly referenced and should be cut out? are Articles from Techcrunch, yahoo finance and business insider considered unsuitable? I have seen articles from other finance companies that use them such as venmo and BitPay, btw, the undisclosed template that was added to the article is not right because the former editor and me both have disclosed payment. Thanks. JamesRodir (talk) 22:37, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@JamesRodir: - you might have more luck contacting your reviewers directly, but my looking over your sources points out the following: the BI (is it worth it) one mainly talks about how to use it, but more importantly, has a huge number of quotes and indirect quotes. This means there's not that much secondary content about Plastiq itself, though it's still a possible source. The Yahoo source is a duplication of a PR release, so doesn't count. The other BI source, once you've taken out the quote, definitely doesn't meet Significant coverage. Forbes has proven time and again to only be reliable if created by a staff writer, not a contributor, so won't qualify as reliable. CNBC's is also heavily about usage, but might have enough on the company. Sources almost entirely about raising capital are routine, so don't aid notability. I personally don't think it warrants its rejection, but corporate notability is high enough that it probably doesn't meet that level. It having been heavily created by an undisclosed paid editor may be making 50-50 calls go against it. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting back to me. I messaged my reviewer but I got nothing. I just updated the product capabilities section and the references taking in consideration what you said. I am thinking of resubmitting. I am afraid that the connection with its former editor its going to harm the article, It shouldn't because he had disclosed his connection with plastiq team and I think he was blocked for other reasons apart from this draft which he started before he got involved in a shady business. JamesRodir (talk) 17:52, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think the article would be better if I remove the 'funding rounds' section?
@JamesRodir: - the funding rounds section is nice and short, it's fine as is. There is another former reviewer of your article you could contact on their talk page. It's worth leaving 2-3 days, not everyone checks wiki daily. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:37, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I am going to let this rest for the weekend. JamesRodir (talk) 19:47, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: Hello! following up, I added new sources. And in fact, Plastiq is a company with many clients, press, great partnerships, and there are more than 70 results of Plastiq in google news, this has to count for something. Do you think the company is notable enough and its worth it to resubmit to AfC? JamesRodir (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@JamesRodir: - I've resubmitted on your behalf. I'm not sure if it passes NCORP, but it's improved enough that it's no longer clear. The number of clients and partnerships is irrelevant, and high google news numbers can be forced fairly easily. I would suggest removing a couple of poorer/marginal sources (those with only a few lines, especially if only about the venture capitalism). We'll see how it goes Nosebagbear (talk) 10:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: Thanks I think I am going to be lucky this time, I cleaned up product capabilities section to have a more neutral tone because someone might find it promotional. Do you think is okay if I remove COI and notability templates? JamesRodir (talk) 22:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confused

Thank you for your reply and input. I guess I'll be paying someone to figure this out for us. I cant understand how the person I'm writing about is mentioned several times on his bandmates page, he is a founding member, linked to references proving this and other facts is decliend when some people are on wikipedia with incorrect infomration... I give up:( Thank you anyway. TVaughanSoCal — Preceding unsigned comment added by TVaughanSoCal (talk • contribs) 18:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Newb SPA COI takes his shot

I alert you to this ANI incident claim.

As you may know, waves of SPAs have whitewashed this page since 2015. Most have very similar and consistent goals. Should I write a diff-heavy walkthrough of the whole history in COIN? Did I use the term "boomerang" right? The BLP subject also has a similar long pattern of whitewashing on one key claim (which the SPAs target with increasingly slick spin): https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/karen-peterson/article31240583.html

The latest SPA is meaner and quite determined. I will write incredibly clear and meticulously researched talk sections, and hope that's enough. Many suffered because it is true, but did it get in the Kirkus Review? Mcfnord (talk) 00:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your help desk question

You didn't get an answer to this question. You already said you didn't think the talk page related to the information would be satisfactory. I'm out of options because I don't know anything about the subject, but maybe there's something else you could try.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Hello Nosebagbear,

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