Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 28, 2020.
Active roster
- Active roster → Major League Baseball rosters#Active roster (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There are active rosters for leagues other than Major League Baseball, this is an inappropriate target. I propose changing this into a disambiguation page. Eagles 24/7 (C) 15:45, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete or disambiguate to available targets per nom. It's ambiguous and, thus, an WP:XY / WP:R#D2 thing. Doug Mehus T·C 15:52, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom. Don't even think it needs a discussion, as it's a plain fact that MLB isn't the only sports league with active rosters. oknazevad (talk) 18:21, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- Write article, which might be short. AFAICT, only the MLB article discusses the concept; but it's mentioned in some American football biographies at least. I think "roster" in a sports context may be a purely North American term; is it used in other sports also, e.g. hockey, lacrosse or even soccer? We have practice squad, a related NA concept, which also mentions "main roster". See also DAB page roster, which includes the different concept roster (workplace). I suggest roster (sports) as a working title. Narky Blert (talk) 08:00, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's also developmental roster. Narky Blert (talk) 08:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Can anyone draft a disambiguation page to see how one would look like? feminist (talk) 12:59, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I support delete-ing this redirect if a draft disambiguation page hasn't been drafted, as this would still allow for recreation as a disambiguation in the future. Doug Mehus T·C 01:01, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
The traffic
This is just "traffic" with a "the" at the front. Unlikely. TheAwesomeHwyh 19:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Holy See (The)
Unlikely search term. TheAwesomeHwyh 19:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Standard Galactic Grid
- Standard Galactic Grid → List of Star Wars planets and moons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, previously deleted a month ago following an RfD that did not have broad participation, Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_January_27#Standard_Galactic_Grid signed, Rosguill talk 18:47, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Gesuz
Searching for Jesus is not that difficult and it makes this a useless redirect. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Gezus
Searching for Jesus is not that difficult and it makes this a useless redirect. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Gesus
Searching for Jesus is not that difficult and it makes this a useless redirect. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Gezuz
Searching for Jesus is not that difficult and it makes this a useless redirect. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Jezuz
Searching for Jesus is not that difficult and it makes this a useless redirect. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I would also like to mention that all of these redirects came from the same guy who also made other redirects to Jesus that have been deleted including The J Man, The Jezor, G-Zues, and Jezor. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Shuttle operator
- Shuttle operator → Three-way comparison (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, and I wasn't able to figure out if/how the terms are related from searching Google Scholar. Delete unless a justification provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:32, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Blood grouping and crossmatching
- Blood grouping and crossmatching → Cross-matching (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Blood grouping and crossmatching are different things. Blood grouping (which I'm currently working on a draft for, because we somehow don't have an article on it!?!) refers to determining a person's blood type, i.e., type A negative and so on. Crossmatching refers to testing a patient's blood sample against donor blood to determine if it is compatible. Blood grouping is usually done before a crossmatch, and is part of electronic crossmatching, but it's not the same thing. The article does discuss blood grouping briefly, but only as an alternative to crossmatching in emergency situations. TL;DR: Suggest deleting per WP:XY. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Sabre corp
- Sabre corp → Dunder Mifflin (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to Sabre Corporation. While the fictional company is mentioned in the target article, I don't see why a fictional company in a TV show should have priority over a corporation publicly traded on a stock index (NASDAQ in the US). Hatnote to Dunder Mifflin if deemed necessary. Hog Farm (talk) 14:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to Sabre Corporation per nom as I'm not sure I can find a reason for WP:DIFFCAPS here. Add one- or two-way hatnotes to Dunder Mifflin and Sabre Corporation. Hatnotes are cheap and useful. Doug Mehus T·C 14:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Yup yup yup
- Yup yup yup → The Land Before Time (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Has other uses beyond that in The Land Before Time, delete as ambiguous. Hog Farm (talk) 02:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment (was
Keep) Yes, it's got potential other users, but any extant to English Wikipedia? Even still, it's one of the most memorable lines in the film, not unlike, "life's like a box of chocolates...you never know what yer gonna get," is to Forrest Gump, so I think it's potentially at least a weak-ish primary topic here. If not, I'm willing to invoke WP:IAR here. Doug Mehus T·C 02:53, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- The problem seems to be that the phrase isn't even worthy of a sourced mentioned, let alone discussion in the current article. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- We don't really care about sourcing for redirects, though, as long as it's plausible and there are no other targets extant to existing English Wikipedia articles. I can confirm there are offline sources which do confirm this line from the film, but equally important, the primary source (i.e., the film) is just as valid and can be used, per WP:VERIFIABILITY. Doug Mehus T·C 14:40, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- The problem seems to be that the phrase isn't even worthy of a sourced mentioned, let alone discussion in the current article. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment it mentioned at List of The Land Before Time characters#Ducky with the spelling "yep, yep, yep". However it is not sourced there, and I can only find marginal-looking sources like [1][2] which mention it. The paucity of WP:RS and usage suggests it's nowhere near the fame of "like's like a box of chocolates". List of Tiny Toon Adventures characters#Concord Condor mentions another unrelated fictional character who says "yup yup yup". 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- I can, with certainty, say that offline reliable sources do exist for this phrasing. Moreover, we have primary reliable sources, which confirm this phrasing. I would support a retargeting there, but given that it's mentioned in the first film, I think refining the existing target to where Ducky is mentioned is better. We could add {{R from misspelling}} and then create a second redirect for Yep yep yep for the correct spelling. Or, alternatively, retarget yup yup yup to the suggested target by the IP editor, and yep yep yep to either of the two targets. Doug Mehus T·C 14:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Question for 59.149.124.29, what exactly is "marginal" about Syracuse.com? It's a born-digital, hyper-local news publication owned by Advance Local LLC, itself part of Advance Digital, that is itself owned by Condé Nast owner Advance Publications. I have no concerns about its editorial reliability whatsoever. Doug Mehus T·C 16:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Dmehus: My exact words were "marginal-looking". In particular, the "byline" on the Syracuse.com piece is the name of a zoo rather than the name of a journalist, which made it look like a reprint of a press release or native advertising or something similar. I remain neutral between deletion and retargetting. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:40, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- 59.149.124.29 Okay, thank you for clarifying that. Doug Mehus T·C 02:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget (1st choice) to List of The Land Before Time characters#Ducky per 59.149.124.29's find, where it's mentioned explicitly, with rcats {{R to section}}, {{R from catchphrase}}, {{R from fictional element}}, and {{R from alternative spelling}}; otherwise,
- Keep at its current location (2nd choice) with rcats {{R to article without mention}}, {{R from catchphrase}}, {{R from alternative spelling}}, and {{R from fictional element}}. No real reason for deletion here. Doug Mehus T·C 00:28, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Even though I am an IP currently, I would like to say Delete because people who have watched the film are the only people who would get the reference and even then, they are very very unlikely to search up The Land Before Time this way. 209.237.105.108 (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
1/9 (number)
The redirect does not make sense. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 11:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous. Could be a fraction, January 9 or 1 September at least. Narky Blert (talk) 12:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The fraction does not have a page, and the (number) disambiguator makes the the date usage less likely. Hog Farm (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous and as an implausible search term with the disambiguation qualifier as a redirect. Same as 1/6 (number) below. Doug Mehus T·C 14:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
1/6 (number)
The redirect does not make sense. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 11:09, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous. Could be a fraction, January 6 or 1 June at least. Narky Blert (talk) 12:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous per above and because of the unnecessary disambiguation qualifier, which makes it an implausible search term as a redirect. Doug Mehus T·C 14:05, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The fraction does not have its own page, and the (number) disambiguator makes it much less likely to be intended as a search for the date. Hog Farm (talk) 14:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Be a man (Failed guideline proposal)
- Wikipedia:Be a man (Failed guideline proposal) → Wikipedia:Don't be a wuss/Failed guideline proposal (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Used only twice on the whole encyclopedia, unnecessary disambiguation. TheAwesomeHwyh 06:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete- unnecessary, faintly sexist, garbage. Reyk YO! 09:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as an implausible search term because of the long parenthetical qualifier. There could be merit to a project shortcut here, without the parenthetical qualifier, but I don't we need to retroactively create shortcuts to failed project proposals. Thus, I agree with the first and latter two points of Reyk's argument; it's unnecessary and garbage. Doug Mehus T·C 14:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Calona
Unclear why this redirect redirects to the current page of a fictional character from a television series. This, arguably, should be the primary redirect for Calona Wines, which has been the subject of book-length local history books and a fair bit of reliable source mass media press coverage; however, Calona Wines is currently awaiting article creation. So, I'm proposing to either (a) delete per WP:R#D10 or (b) to weak disambiguate for now, if possible though partial title matches may apply here, until an article for Calona Wines is created then it could be boldly retargeted there as the primary redirect. I would oppose retarget-ing to Herb Capozzi or W. A. C. Bennett because Calona Wines is only tangentially mentioned in either article and it becomes an XY thing. Similarly, Calona has never been a variant spelling for Kelowna; it's always been the name of Calona Wines, Calona Vineyards, and related for-profit private enterprises, as a play on the spelling of the name Kelowna. I would weak support retarget-ing to Okanagan Valley (wine region), if that's possible here, even though it's not the full company name, until such time as Calona Wines has a published article, then this should target there as {{R from short name}}. Doug Mehus T·C 00:18, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete to encourage article creation; clutters searching. Not mentioned in the target, no other suitable target. As well as Calona Wines, there are two blacklinked people with the surname. Nothing in Italian or Spanish WPs. sv:Opopaea calona has no English equivalent and would not be a suitable target if it did. Narky Blert (talk) 10:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)