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Huge number of cite errors

Hi, in this edit to Economy of the Philippines you seem to have introduced a huge number of cite errors. As I can't work out which parts of your enormous edit were good and which were not, could you have a look and try to sort it out please? DuncanHill (talk) 15:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: my edit was just to remove a leading zero from a date, but appears that AWB has attempted to combine references that were introduced in this edit which replicated part of the article at the end. May be a revert to this version is appropriate? Keith D (talk) 16:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
I've reverted as you suggested. DuncanHill (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@DuncanHill: thanks for that. I had not spotted the problem as I thought that it was just the usual AWB fixes and the first References section looked OK. Keith D (talk) 16:44, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
I didn't spot it for a while - I corrected one link, then found there was another hidden somewhere, and only after finding that did I notice the huge red error messages! DuncanHill (talk) 16:46, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

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20:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

"Cromer, disambiguation" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Cromer, disambiguation. Since you had some involvement with the Cromer, disambiguation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. DannyS712 (talk) 06:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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Short descriptions

Hi Keith D, welcome back. Sorry about the short descriptions, I was trying to keep them as near to 40 characters as possible in the description field, hence I went for East Yorkshire as opposed to the East Riding of Yorkshire. I'll stick to the latter in future. Happy New Year, regards. The joy of all things (talk) 07:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

21:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Keith, I noticed that you made some edits on the draft of the "Monte Warden" article (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Monte_Warden) I am trying to get published. Firstly, thank you for the edits! Also, can you perhaps help me understand what I need to do to get this article live on Wikipedia? It has been many, many months in the editing process.

Thank you Katherine

Follow up on Monte Warden draft article

Hi Keith, I noticed that you made some edits on the draft of the "Monte Warden" article (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Monte_Warden) I am trying to get published. Firstly, thank you for the edits! Also, can you perhaps help me understand what I need to do to get this article live on Wikipedia? It has been many, many months in the editing process.

Thank you Katherine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgregoratx (talkcontribs) 02:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I was just fixing a few errors in the cites. If you want to improve the article it is probably best to find an article on a similar topic from the current feature article list and try to follow the style of that article. Those articles have been reviewed by the community and have been through various iterations to get to the best possible state. The most important thing to get an article accepted is the referencing and selecting those that cover the subject in detail and are reliable to show that it is notable and worthy of an independent article. Keith D (talk) 12:17, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Please take a look at the action of User talk:Dartslilly 86.179.247.253 (talk) 23:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I will see what the user does to your request to revert their action, rather than wade in at the moment. Keith D (talk) 23:58, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I just don't understand why my section on Ponds, the only section with a citation was deleted.

2A00:23C6:3B83:EC00:94C7:D4F8:4277:59B4 (talk) 00:05, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

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Approval of the Wikipedia page - Draft:Lanka Property Web

Hi Keith,

Thank you for the feedback/edits on the page created. I've made necessary changes as you have highlighted. This is also the first time I am posting an article on Wikipedia, so I wanted to know has my page been approved? If not how long does it usually take to be approved?

Minnath123 (talk) 03:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Minnath

Hello, a comment on the article would be the mixed use of Lanka Property Web and LankaPropertyWeb to refer to the company - need to choose one or the other.
You need to submit your article for approval, see Wikipedia:Articles for creation#Submitting for review which indicates that this may take several weeks depends on how busy those processing the queue are. Keith D (talk) 12:09, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Pongal is Tamil festival,

Hi, Pongal is tamil festival, not Hindu festival, i have edited that in the page and you keep on unduing the post, you can refer anything, even Christians people calibrate pongal, the other name of pongal is "Timilar thirunal", — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srsbharathi (talkcontribs) 15:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

19:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

18:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Added facts about the parks are still banning exercise and selling them off ith sole money making rights

why are you removing this? the parks are being sold off to friends in Hull, indisputable proof is added via links why would you wish to be a busybody to protect this appalling behaviour? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.121.131 (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Because it is just soap boxing and not encyclopedic. The use of words all in upper-case is obvious you are trying to make a point and naming individuals in this way is not valid. Keith D (talk) 16:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Who put you in charge of mental health, obesity and public parks??? Get a life you sado there is real actual harm from this.. social mobility and general health.. it's a unique fact to have a team banning exercise in public parks!! Stevebillyhughes (talk) 17:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Re the date corrections

Hi. I appreciate your correcting the bad date EyeCont keeps adding to the Earthquake prediction and VAN method articles. However, it is quite likely we will be going back and forth on this for a bit, so you might want to let that slide until matters settle down. ♦ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

It just pops up on my watchlist each time a bad date is added/removed and I am trying to reduce category:CS1 errors: dates so it will probably get visited unless I remember which to skip. Keith D (talk) 22:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion of Climate Forecast Applications Network (by JzG / Guy)

Hi Keith_D, Because you made a small change to the draft of Climate Forecast Applications Network article[18], which was later Speedy Deleted for G11-advertisement, I would appreciate if you could voice your opinion in the discussion here: Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Climate_Forecast_Applications_Network. Thanks. -- Yae4 (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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20:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon

Hi. The Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:09, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

I will publicise in the next WP:YORKS newsletter. Keith D (talk) 18:10, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Access dates

Sorry for putting you to that bother. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

No problem. I have got them all now. Keith D (talk) 22:09, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Fix PMC warning

Thanks for your recent fix on my edit. I would love to know what tool you used to identify that, as I would love to use something like that to avoid these in the future and help in the ongoing editing overall. Thanks! --- FULBERT (talk) 00:25, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I just use the hidden categories that appear on the articles when the situation occurs. You get all sorts of categories but the one for this is Category:CS1 maint: PMC format. You will not be able to see them unless you set the option in your preferences (under Appearance, Advanced options set "Show hidden categories"). Keith D (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
You can also get a message next to the reference by following these instructions -
By default, Citation Style 1 and Citation Style 2 error messages are visible to all readers and maintenance messages are hidden from all readers.

To display maintenance messages in the rendered article, include the following text in your common CSS page (common.css) or your specific skin's CSS page and (skin.css).

(Note to new editors: those CSS pages are specific to you, and control your view of pages, by adding to your user account's CSS code. If you have not yet created such a page, then clicking one of the .css links above will yield a page that starts "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name." Click the "Start the User:username/filename page" link, paste the text below, save the page, follow the instructions at the bottom of the new page on bypassing your browser's cache, and finally, in order to see the previously hidden maintenance messages, refresh the page you were editing earlier.)

.mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;} /* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */

To display hidden-by-default error messages:

.mw-parser-output span.cs1-hidden-error {display: inline;} /* display hidden Citation Style 1 error messages */

Even with this CSS installed, older pages in Wikipedia's cache may not have been updated to show these error messages even though the page is listed in one of the tracking categories. A null edit will resolve that issue.

After (error and/maintenance) messages are displayed, it might still not be easy to find them in a large article with a lot of citations. Messages can then be found by searching (with Ctrl-F) for "(help)" or "cs1".

To hide normally-displayed error messages:

.mw-parser-output span.cs1-visible-error {display: none;} /* hide Citation Style 1 error messages */

You can personalize the display of these messages (such as changing the color), but you will need to ask someone who knows CSS or at the technical village pump if you do not understand how.

Nota bene: these CSS rules are not obeyed by Navigation popups. They also do not hide script warning messages in the Preview box that begin with "This is only a preview; your changes have not yet been saved".

Keith D (talk) 00:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

19:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Zorastrianism, Growth of religion Article

Hi Keith D!

I'm Skubydoo, a relative newbie to Wikipedia. I saw that you changed the "6th century" to "1500" in the Zoroastrianism section of the growth of religion article. Can you please give me your source for the beginning of Zoroastrianism? Zoroastrianism began with Zoraster, who lived approximately in the 6th century BCE. Here is one source that lists that date: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Zarathustra

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Best,

Skubydoo (talk) 19:25, 13 February 2020 (UTC)Skubydoo, 2-13-20

Hello, I did not make that edit but I made the change before that one. That change was made by 47.15.238.125 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and that was the only edit they have made. Keith D (talk) 19:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Keith D,

Thanks so much for clearing that up! I went ahead and changed the date back to the correct one.

Best,

Skubydoo (talk) 17:54, 14 February 2020 (UTC)Skubydoo, 14 February 2020

Pplease check new refs. Thanks again. T.

16:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello there, Keith D. Just wanted to say congrats on all your awards! -Littlecucumber — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlecucumber (talkcontribs) 00:09, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello and thanks. Keith D (talk) 00:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Ref 86 - should the pages be listed as pp in forward italics? Please leave in the quotes and check other new refs. Thanks as always. T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.49.35 (talk) 07:32, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

21:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Action please.

Could you take an action for this user please? Regards. ChanSey 22:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chansey (talkcontribs)

I have blocked the editor, after a couple of attempts because of edit conflicts. May be they will just switch IP addresses and will need a range block. Keith D (talk) 22:19, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please check new refs - thanks as always  !! T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.49.35 (talk) 09:47, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Year/date mismatch

Hi, I noticed this [30]. I did not click on the url but this is a work from a Roman era author. I presume the version being cited on archive.org is an 18th century printing. So maybe it is OK?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

I made the same assumption as the year was added by BOT and unlikely that someone consulted the early dated document. Keith D (talk) 20:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Chester School Protests

Thank you for the changes to the Chester, Pennsylvania page. There was so much good content that I created a new page Chester School Protests.

Dwkaminski (talk) 16:37, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

17:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Please check new newspapers refs on this page if you have time. Thanks again, T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.219.132 (talk) 10:17, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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Please rethink your choice.

I unwittingly messed up the source on the last edit I did(you knows which). I fixed it and then you blocked me. I promise you its the last thing ill do on here this day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.203.84 (talk) 01:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Advise to the contrary, as per WP:DWT Definition of troll is met. EnTerbury (talk) 01:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey! I tried to repost WITH a source like you said for I felt bad for losing my temper with you. but this Keith D wouldnt let it happen. You people have WAY too much power.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.203.84 (talk) 03:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

As I suggested please use that talk page of the article to discuss the change and gain consensus for it. The change you make breaks the template & give a cite error. It also looses the birth date of the person. Keith D (talk) 10:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

you "suggested" no such thing and I fixed that it but you wouldnt let me post the fix. if I broke something else unwittingly fix THAT.

dont bother answering Ise done with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.203.84 (talk) 18:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Adding Images in formatted maner

Hi how can I add images in good formatted manner images I added in List of Brahmin Dynasties look good for PC users not for mobile users how can this problem be overcome. Doremon9087 (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, you are going to have to explain what the problem is with the layout you are seeing as it looks OK from here, stacked down the right of the article. Unsure what it looks like for mobile uses. Keith D (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
For mobile users image stack appears after 20. i.e Karkota Empire that's not look ggod for mobile now i want to add these images in a separate section how can i add them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doremon9087 (talkcontribs) 05:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
You could use a gallery (see Help:Gallery tag for how to use) or you could use the template {{Multiple image}} (see the documentation). Keith D (talk) 10:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

19:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

I didn't know this was how to properly date a source. Thanks, again!71.17.24.199 (talk) 14:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, |accessdate= needs the full date that you accessed the source to verify the fact, more than likely the date it was added. If it is the date the source was published then that goes in the |date= parameter and can be a partial date. Keith D (talk) 14:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

revision of Hortonio's cite form

Hi - thanks for looking over my page, "Jack D. Ives." I'm not used to this means of communication, and may be misconstruing. It looks to me like you removed the hyphen from "access-date". However, there is a hyphen in the template I used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web Please clarify. Also, I can't figure out if I successfully submitted the page for vetting. Finally, do I need to state somewhere that I was a student of Jack Ives in the 1990s? thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hortonio (talkcontribs) 22:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I assume that you are talking about my edit to Bruno Messerli. The |access-date= and |accessdate= parameters are aliases and can be used interchangeably in the cite templates. I tend to use the one without the hyphen as it does not wrap in the browser window and gets underlined by the spellchecker to make it easier to spot. It makes fixing the cites easier as the accessdate tends to be the last parameter in the template and it is then easier to scan for the error. The reason for the edit to the template was to remove the double "{{Cite web", which is the error I was searching for.
The rest of your query appears to apply to User:Hortonio/Jack Ives. It looks like this has not been submitted for approval, you need to click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button in the top box on that page. Though there appears to be a reference problem on that page as it appears in Category:User pages with reference errors, see Help:Cite errors#A page shows in the reference error category, but no cite errors show to give you a steer as to what the problem is, as nothing obvious.
On the last point you could put a note on the talk page of the article, once it is published, to say you are connected to the subject.
Hope this answers your queries. Keith D (talk) 11:41, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

PLEASE CHECK NEW REFS. THANKS T.

This fellow was the 1st baronet. Please check refs. Thanks175.33.49.35 (talk) 13:09, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Dear Keith

Could you double check the sizes of eth new files (make them smaller ?? please) and refs of the bellow 2 refs. Thanks again T Lupton family and Ellen Nussey.


Listen. That article should be unprotected. That guy is not relevant anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.24.210.141 (talk) 01:23, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

15:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I have added in reference number 34 - is it OK? Thanks as always and stay well. T