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Edit warring

I see you have closed the discussion on ANI that I opened. I was hoping to get an answer to my final question before you did, so perhaps you can help me out here. You noted in your closing comments that there was a slow burning edit war. If I was at fault, what should I have done better? Thanks. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 14:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Slugger O'Toole: I wouldn't consider you at "fault"; I didn't see it as blockable on either side at that point, even if the report hadn't gone stale. However, if you are going to charge another editor with edit warring, then you are as much at "fault" if the edits they were reverting were your's that you kept adding back. What you could do is voluntarily adopt a WP:1RR standard. If edit summaries or compromise edits do not get your point across, go to the the talk page and reach a consensus. It can only help if you get multiple people involved (like there is now); it makes it easier to see where consensus might be, independent of whether you agree with that opinion. Whenever it bugs me that there is "wrong" information on a page, I mark the text with something like {{dispute}} and leave a link to the discussion; it lets readers know that the information might not be correct, and is a compromise to reverting. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bagumba, I see. I also wasn't necessarily looking for a block. The only reason I didn't take it to a dispute noticeboard first is that it had already been there. That's how JZG arrived. And, while I find that more voices usually helps things, in this case we seem to have even less of a consensus than before. The dispute tag is a possible solution that I hadn't considered before. I'll look into it more. Thanks again! -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Joe Colomb for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Joe Colomb is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Colomb until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Protect Bam Adebayo?

IP keeps adding “Nigerian” as split citizenship but Adebayo plays for Team USA and I agent seen that he has ever pursued or holds Nigerian citizenship. Victor Oladipo is another similar case. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 21:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Usually don't protect because of one user (warnings and blocks are a better option), but this page just came out of protection. so it's likely part of a general trend. Protected for 3 mos.—Bagumba (talk) 03:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dream Team

Hello!

Please, read my updated version of the background section on the 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team page. I removed unreferenced information, while adding more sources about the USSR and Yugoslavia, and mentioned Borislav Stankovic's contributions. If you believe that my version is now acceptable, please approve it. I think that current JimKaatFan's version is incomplete. Thank you! 89.113.98.96 (talk) 11:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also edited 2004 United States men's Olympic basketball team, removing statements that it was heavily favored to win the Olympics, because the sources provided by JimKaatFan only concern their losses to Italy and Puerto Rico. 89.113.98.96 (talk) 11:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's other editors that have been reverting the respective content besides the one you mentioned. I'd suggest you follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and start a discussion on each article's talk page. Are the edits from 81.9.126.76 (talk) and 217.118.92.180 (talk) your's also? Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, only one of the sources specifically mentions the Puerto Rico game; the others refer to being heavily favored to win the gold medal. Please read them all. JimKaatFan (talk) 14:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that most of the editors don't respect IP accounts, but I really urge you to look at the facts. JimKaatfan removed sourced information about American teams prior to 1992 and their use of AAU/then collegiate players, he removed info about the USSR and Yugoslavia, and he also erased any mention of Borislav Stankovic. Does that seem fair? Just check the edits themselves, all of them were reverted just because people are prejudiced against IP accounts. 89.113.98.96 (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bagumba, do you think it's strange that a piece appeared yesterday on The Sporting News that mimics exactly what this anon IP is trying to add to the Dream Team article? JimKaatFan (talk) 14:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So, now you're trying to discredit my sources, while presenting your sources as the ultimate truth. Ok. You certainly have your agenda, and I'm in no mood to keep arguing with you. 89.113.98.96 (talk) 14:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spotted this discussion while I was cleaning up after this IP. It is very clearly Max Arosev and he has been blocked. Just thought I would mention it. -DJSasso (talk) 19:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Djsasso: Thanks, it did cross my mind but AGFed. I'm not totally familiar with their behavior.—Bagumba (talk) 02:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Natalie Chou

On 8 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Natalie Chou, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that UCLA basketball player Natalie Chou said that the use of a slang term for COVID-19 created "unnecessary xenophobia for people who look like me"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Natalie Chou. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Natalie Chou), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Escalating situation

Edit war on Janel McCarville - combo of false info and dispute over formatting of a retired jersey note in infobox. What’s your advice for solving it? Rikster2 (talk) 10:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Generally follow WP:DR. Start a discussion at the article talk and present your relevant sources and figure out why there is a difference in opinion. Put notice in relevant WikiProjects to get a wider opinion.—Bagumba (talk) 10:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So that’s my process even given vandalism (the false info)? Rikster2 (talk) 11:00, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Jersey retired" vs "hung in rafters" is style difference. I wouldn't call it vandalism, but it doens't mean there's necessarily consensus for it either. If you're asking me as an admin, it's nothing to warrant a block. Unless there's more history here than just this article, but then diffs would be needed. The year changing thing looks weird, but I'll err on the side that its minor and it's the jersey that has got the both of you edit warring. As an editor, I guess I could chime in too, but I dont have a background on women's college hoops or WP conventions there, so would prefer the sources be shown. There's probably more informed editors than me on this.—Bagumba (talk) 11:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Changing championship years to ones that are incorrect in those same edits is vandalism. Look at the diffs. That’s what tells me these aren’t good faith edits. Rikster2 (talk) 11:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KillerGho$t is back with a new sock

You banned Sorcererzthunder (talk · contribs) as being a WP:DUCK of KillerGho$t (talk · contribs). It appears that he is back with a new sockpuppet account – MagicGlide32 (talk · contribs). A quick look at Sacramento Kings page history and the overall editing pattern gives a clear indication that it is the same person as Sorcererzthunder. – Sabbatino (talk) 10:49, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree.—Bagumba (talk) 10:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
He is back – Moundzilla (talk · contribs). – Sabbatino (talk) 06:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

? Moundzilla (talk) 07:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NBL stats, partial total and averages

If you're going to remove the NBL point totals and other information from the Mikan infobox, you should at least note that action at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association#NBL stats, partial total and averages and not hide the change behind a minor edit marking and a misleading edit summary.—Myasuda (talk) 13:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Myasuda: Thanks for bringing to my attention. I only intended to do what was in the edit summary. Somehow I messed up and edited off the other editor's version instead of your's. It wasnt my intention to invest time in a discussion just to sneak something in. Sorry about that.—Bagumba (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, no problem -- thanks for clarifying.—Myasuda (talk) 18:26, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Pepper Rodgers

On 16 May 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Pepper Rodgers, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. qedk (t 愛 c) 11:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Tony Yates

On 18 May 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tony Yates, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 01:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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