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Reddog52 (talk) 04:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Dear Graham87. Thank you for your email pointing out some of the conventions and definitions I had not been aware of, including the definition of 'minor edit'. I am a newcomer to Wikipedia and had thought my changes were actually quite minor but take you points on board. You mentioned the convention of a place being nominated as a suburb or a town by its LGA and I did have some prior awareness of that. In fact some of my changes were consistent with that rule. For instance, on their Wikipedia pages the settlements of Lapstone and Glenbrook are both described as 'suburbs'. These places are both within the City of the Blue Mountains LGA, and from what I could see all other places in the Blue Mountains were referred to as towns or villages. The same occurred with Pitt Town, in the Hawkesbury City LGA. On its Wikipedia page it is described as a 'historic town and Sydney Suburb'. Again, from what I could see, no other places from the Hawkesbury LGA were described as suburbs. So, my changes with these were actually in keeping with the rule. There is another consideration here, which I think should also enter into any such determination, and that is whether the local inhabitants consider whether they live in a suburb or a town. I know this question of identity (or loss of identity) can often be a 'hot button' issue in the Blue Mountains, and I understand that that may be the case in the Hawkesbury area as well. It was also an issue at Campbelltown (Macarthur region, NSW) when I worked there during the 1990s. Maybe that is something i can raise on the Australian Wikipedian's Noticeboard? The other question you raise is 'suburbs vs neighbourhoods' and that 'we have suburbs in Australia'. By and large I agree with you but I would also say that the term neighbourhood is not at all unfamiliar in Australian usage, and in many situations of describing an (Australian) urban location is more useful than the term 'suburb'. This is particularly so with inner-city localities. People from the US, the UK and Europe see the descriptor suburb as having a more specific meaning of an outlying urban district, normally beyond the city boundaries. People from those regions of the world would never call inner-Sydney locales like Woolloomolloo, or Ultimo or The Rocks as suburbs, and I have found they are bemused when they are described as such. With the international scope of Wikipedia's readership, I thought 'neighbourhood' gives a much better indication of the nature of these inner-city locales than 'suburb'. It is a term that is also understood by Australians as well as those from overseas. Note that I only substituted neighbourhood for suburb for localities wholly within the City of Sydney LGA. For place names beyond that LGA I think it is appropriate to call them 'suburbs'. Hope I have not written too much here. I did feel the need to explain my rationale. Thank you. Reddog52 Reddog52 (talk) 04:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hmm, some xxxx editors enjoy playing with the ABS designated suburbs - which are NOT suburbs, and really stuff up any consistency in the oz project - in most cases there are some editors who prefer 'locality' - the place that is named - then in some states some xxxx government departments hate the idea of a space of land being 'unallocated' and call what more correctly regions - as vast localities that do not exist on maps or in peoples heads or anywhere but the fevered imagination of the bureaucrats who created the bizarre items... apart from that I disagree with so much that reddog asserts, I simply dont have the time to pull each item into an explanation and develop from there...

In the past we had a field of editors who could positively and constructively interact on these issues - but hell, off the perch in various ways, they have fallen... JarrahTree 04:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Probably (as an observor of the damnned mad conversations about the absurdity of ABS suburbs and other delightful items) - the LGA designations in the end should be the best guideline - if a LGA in whatever state has identified an area as 'locality' or whatever, then the designation from the LGA should be considered seriously as a guide as to what they are. JarrahTree 04:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Reddog52: Yeah pretty much. Also in this case see the top of list of Sydney suburbs, which mentions factors beyond LGA's. I'll give you Lapstone and Glenbrook because they're not on there, but not Pitt Town, which is. The rest of your points will need to be discussed at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board ... in particular I don't think you'll find much agreement re neighbourhoods. For what it's worth when I think of the word neighbourhood" in an Australian context, I think of the current street and maybe a few surrounding roads, not anywhere with definite boundaries like a suburb. Graham87 04:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify 'neighbourhood' is not how the LGA rats and stats people designate the places for their legal and financial estimations - or the state governments or the feds - they are unquantifiable and not set in any legal context - also to go to the OZ noticeboard, the usually top notch and up to date on the issue eds are no longer there... If you fathomed the archive carefully, these sort of discussions go back over ten years, and altering established systems of identfiying 'places' are usually met with responses that dont help either. JarrahTree 05:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neighbourhood/Temp

Hi, Graham,

Your moves caused a lot of redirects to turn up as broken redirects that have to be fixed or they would have gotten deleted. Please leave a redirect from your future moves so bots can correct the redirects to the new location. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Thanks for the note; I should have checked that after my page moves! I normally leave redirects behind/check the results of page moves but I'd messed up the page history so much that I'd forgotten this time. Graham87 04:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"McShittles" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect McShittles. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 8#McShittles until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

October harvest

music today, - enchanting, said a critic about the Mendelssohn that I heard on 3 October, - this video is older, and the YT in the article comes with a Bach encore as she played for us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Amazing music and playing. I love that Bach encore, the Adagio from the first solo violin sonata, which she played with such serenity. The next movement, the fugue (as performed by the Australian violinist Richard Tognetti) is one of my favourite movements of the Sonatas and Partitas. Graham87 04:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Sadly, the Fuga is not available (to me). The Bach she played on 3 October was a different Adagio but I couldn't tell which. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: That's no good re geoblocking ... if you'd like that recording, you can email me and I can send it to you as an MP3, either via email or other means ... I have it from the original CD. I would probably be able to identify the other Bach adagio if I heard it. Graham87 08:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Later perhaps, quite busy having to honour three bdays in succession and then a wedding anniversary ;) - my way to celebrate friends' special days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and now the memories of 16 October --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and today my talk with the scenic designer of the year (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), and a a related video, which has good interviews - sadly all in German, even of the many foreigners - with people having created Salome in Frankfurt, with music. Tough to describe the scene. Imagine all pitch-black, and spotlight only on those in action. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Wow, cool. Of course I'm the last person you'd expect to know this, but I didn't actually realise that "scenic design" was a proper name for the discipline but it apparently is ... I would've said "scene design" or "set design". Oh well, you learn something every day ... Graham87 15:44, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	A bit belated, but I thought your WP:IAR close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Editor review/ChrisAmaddeo was masterful and showed a significant amount of clue. Well done. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:39, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please block

Hi. Will you please block 114.4.0.0/16 (talk · contribs) since IPs on this range have been persistently harassing and vandalizing pages I edited and my talk pages for months. Not only in enwiki but also across several wikis like idwiki and commonswiki. Its sisters, 120.188.0.0/17 (talk · contribs) and 114.5.0.0/17 (talk · contribs) (also 114.5.0.0/16 (talk · contribs) on ENWIKI) are now globally blocked for this exact reason. Thanks. Flix11 (talk) 04:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Side question

Since we're on the topic... So do screenreaders (or some of them) simply ignore the parentheses, as if they're just note there? How does that makes sense? I mean, the presence of parentheses signals something about the ideas being communicated. So again: how does that make sense? Is there some option that tells the reader to speed things up by omitting certain stuff. E Eng 03:13, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EEng: I've replied at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Including the release year in parentheses ... I'd forgotten that I had a non-default setting for this kind of thing. Graham87 03:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi Graham, Thank you for helping me with my article. If you have any tips on how I can get it to be a B class article that would be amazing!Izzyman4 (talk) 00:43, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Don Talbot

On 4 November 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Don Talbot, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 22:37, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's November corner

look! - ever so proud of the little article which is my DYK 1500 and relates to DYK 1 - by sheer coincidence! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Wow, congratulations! Graham87 05:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... and about a Graham, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Hehehe oh yes! Graham87 07:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome, and HUGE respect from me !

Hey @Graham87, you thanked me for updating Telfer, Western Australia. For that you are welcome. I read your user page and found out that you have a serious disability and yet you are an active contributor to Wikipedia. The fact that you have managed to overcome your disability demands HUGE respect and awe. Keep up the good work !👍 SarthakKas1 (talk) 12:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Play La vita comincia ogni mattina

Hi, dearest Graham87, how are you?

Me, my family and my love are going well, nobody knew mr Corona!!!

Here in Caselle Landi, Lombardy, we are red-zone and we cannot move from our municipality, but it's also better to stay home; I'm in smart-working.

I just opened this new page about a wonderful and forgotten theatre play, pleaase, do you have some minute to read it and correct my mistakes?

Please....

Thanks a lot and hope to hear from you soon.

Rei Momo (talk) 10:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pharmacist

Hi Graham I see that your editings are all very accurate and successful. I want to make the article for the "pharmacist" better but the user Biochemistry always reverts my edits. Can you do something to help me? Lerosolas (talk) 12:58, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question about OHSRW

Hello, I came across this user's contributions while reading about wood bison and noticed you blocked the account indefinitely, the reason cited as block evasion. I read some of the changes made by both accounts and could not understand the connection between the two, that and OHSRW's contributions seemed mostly legitimate from the few that I checked out. Sorry if bringing it up is yet another annoyance in a string of seemingly many, but I just wanted to ask: what is the perceived connection between the two accounts that lead you to block OHSRW for block evasion? Thanks, Isaac868 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Isaac868: See the archived messages on this subject and the other half of the conversation with OHSRW. I was convinced by this and, as I found after a bit of digging, their fondness for whale articles. Graham87 12:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: I see the connection and the justification. Now, I was also wondering, should this sort of thing be done through Sockpuppet Investigations? I'm new to internal Wikipedia stuff like this, so please forgive me if I am incorrect. Isaac868 Isaac868 (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]