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From Andrew Dalby
Graham, thanks very much for your edits to the list of users mentioned in my book. All very helpful. About Julila (as I have just reminded myself by checking the book's index) this was a user whose work has been deleted almost everywhere because he was spamming his biography across many languages. I have inserted a link to the Latin Wikipedia, where he currently remains.
I am talking to the publishers. We don't immediately see a prospect of a talking or braille version, but we're still thinking ...
All good wishes Andrew Dalby 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
UTC
Would it make sense to turn the present Talk:UTC into a redirect to Talk:Coordinated Universal Time, and move the present contents of Talk:UTC to Talk:UTC (disambiguation)? I think the present contents of Talk:UTC is more pertinent to the disambiguation page. --Jc3s5h (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me. All done. Graham87 04:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
French people
On my user talk page i've got a warning from you about 'vandalism' of "List of French People", what vandalism are we talking about here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.238.22 (talk) 07:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Safely delete now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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Ariel
Ok, sorry, i genuinely thought that Ariel was French, my bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.238.22 (talk) 22:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Murder_of_Marwa_El-Sherbini
Dear Graham87, thank you kindly for copy-editing. Much appreciated! :) Yours, Mootros (talk) 00:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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Hello
Thanks for fixing the link on my user page. Good catch. Dawnseeker2000 02:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I wonder also if some Wikipedians are drunk. Anyhow, I was glad to visit ur user page when i noticed that you might be able to provide the text from deleted articles. So there's an American electronic music producer that isn't that popular, but has created a few compilations of that kind of music. I created the (thin) articles for two of those albums a while back. I have thought about putting together something on the fella himself, but there isn't that much information about him. A few people have tried to start something about the guy. The two articles are DJ Doran and Doran Chambers.
- Oh, and the articles that summarize the two CD's are Electric Daisy Carnival (album) and Fragrant Sense. Thanks. Dawnseeker2000 02:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- OK thanks very much. Yes, I'm aware of the nature of creating articles and the requirements for retention. Dawnseeker2000 03:52, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello
I saw your discussion on the child labor section on wikipedia and how it is semi protected. Would you care to explain this to me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akatsuki21 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- Semi-protected means that unregistered users and new users that have not been autoconfirmed cannot edit the page. Last time I checked, to be autoconfirmed, you had to have had an account for a week and have ten edits to your name (I think those were the numbers anyway. The first time I heard about autoconfirmation, I had a hundred edits to my name). --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- The above explanation is correct, except autoconfirmation requires that the account be at least four days old, not seven. I semi-protected the child labor article because of excessive vandalism. Graham87 15:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
This is going to sound like an odd request, but is there any way you could history-merge this back into wiki farm? Following yet another re-working of the revision history between that and comparison of wiki farms, it looks like this "old" history would be a good fit. (and here's me having questioned your keeping it around!) Thoughts? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- All done. It belongs in the main namespace and it won't do any harm there now, so I've moved it back. Graham87 04:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
New York Television Festival
I just put deletion tag for New York Television Festival article because the author of the article himself has stated that this is a recreation of a previously deleted article(See history).Iam not sure of this because i do not get any hint of its previous version.Pls help.....arunkumarcheckmate me 11:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing the doubt. :) ...It was just that I too had the same assumption.The subject of he article is notable.But still, when I saw that the article was deleted once, I thought that its previous version may had some defect that this version carries too.So I just put it for deletion.Again, thanks for the help..
arunkumarcheckmate me 12:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding the Speedy deletion nomination of New York Television Festival: Thanks for taking the time to check the article and verify that it wasn't just someone slapping the old text back on! I took some pains to ensure it was original writing, but not original research. There's more to write about there, but I like to think this is a solid foundation for future editors. I'll take more care with my edit summaries. --Glantrischmozzle (talk) 02:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, that was rather spammy. It wasn't my article, though, as I mentioned to Arunkumar. --Glantrischmozzle (talk) 04:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Can you please userfy a deleted article for me?
The article is Expansion Theory. Thanks.Prezbo (talk) 09:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
A "retired" user
I am glad that you restored the talk pages of the retired administrator. I mentioned this is a discussion somewhere, but no one was interested at the time. When are retired administrator rights withdrawn? Snowman (talk) 10:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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Oldest arts
Ok Graham. I will. Kind regards,--Roblespepe (talk) 17:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
To Graham87 thanks for your help and your wishes hello - Angelinthemorning Angelinthemorning 18:24, 4 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelinthemorning (talk • contribs)
Davis Deluxe
This article looks bare bones and I can't find any good sources. I'm almost inclined to PROD, or at least AFD this but I'm wondering if that's too rash. What do you think? -WarthogDemon 03:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Will do. Thanks! -WarthogDemon 03:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Kalgoorlie-Boulder vs Dundas
It's more than a little confusing, but the City of Kalgoorlie-Boulder, a result of a 1989 amalgamation, actually extends all the way to the South Australian border and covers the whole WA part of the Trans-Australian railway line, on which Forrest, Loongana, Rawlinna etc are located. The Eyre Highway towns further south are in Dundas. See Toiletmap (a surprisingly useful site for finding localities in LGAs, used it a fair bit for my Queensland ones) KB and Dundas. Surprisingly, if ABS are to be believed, just 41 people live in that entire stretch. Orderinchaos 07:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- No worries - that's why I thought I'd let you know. And yep - apparently in the beginning, those shires were eastward extensions of Beverley, York, Northam, Toodyay etc and then got progressively carved up. I guess it didn't make much sense having a shire for 41 people, although I don't see why Dundas or even Coolgardie could not have absorbed it as you'd think the good citizens of Rawlinna and Loongana wouldn't get very good representation in a City aimed almost exclusively at urban residents. Orderinchaos 10:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Red Rocks - yes! good news - the more stuff about the nullarbor the better! thanks for mentioning that at Orderinchaoses talk! SatuSuro 10:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Spelling
Hah, nice catch. 100 people must have looked at that title and didn't notice it. Gigs (talk) 01:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Importing has just been enabled...
...from Meta and Nostalgia; see bugzilla:20280. Cheers! =) --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 67.58.229.153 (talk) 04:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- And of course, now I see you already knew. =) Happy importing! =D --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 67.58.229.153 (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! :-) It'll be fun! :-) Graham87 04:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Merge
If the point is to merge, why are you leaving behind deleted revisions in Mediawiki talk? Dragons flight (talk) 10:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Pokemon Pearl- Action Reaplay Codes (North America)
Hello. I was told to contact you. Here is the talk I had with other people about this..: Hello. I am here to talk to you about the article I made. It says it will be a speedy deletion soon. It is not promoting any sites. I am only saying where the codes where from. I also made some of them. And I was going to add the picture of the game box with all its info later. I had spent 2hrs making the article so I needed a little rest. Then I wanted to see how it was doing and I see the notice.
Can you please not delete it?
IiDevil (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC) (iiDevil or IiDevil)
I hope HJ doesn't mind me posting a passing comment on his page.
I just noticed your message Li Devil and notice that the page has already been deleted. If you contact one of these admins they may be able to userfy the page for you. However this will depend on the actual page itself. Hope this helps :) --5 albert square (talk) 19:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry it took me so long to respond, and no 5asq, I don't mind you answering on my behalf, especially since I was offline briefly. IiDevil, if you follow the link 5 albert square provides, you can ask one of those administrators to email you a copy of the page. The reason it was deleted is that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia of notable, verifiable topics not a place for people to post game codes (whether they're yours, someone else's or whatever). I don't mean to sound condescending by this, but try publishing them on a blog or somewhere, but not Wikipedia. Don't be put off editing though- no self respecting editor hasn't had a page deleted- it's happened to me twice! HJMitchell You rang? 22:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
OK I will contact one of those Admins thanks :3 IiDevil (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC) ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ As you can see they told me to contact a admin so I randomly clicked a admins name and it was you XD So, some of these codes were made by me, all tested and work fine does not ruin the game. Also, I had permission from the people the rest of the codes where from. Can you please try to get my article back? It took me 2hrs to make this :c And it said I was advertising as well when I was not. I was just told to by the website where I got the codes to post the website in the article. Thanks for you help. IiDevil (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Again XD
Ok I set my email for you. Thanks for helping me out
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IiDevil (talk) 22:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't get it. What happened? Enigmamsg 03:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I imported an old edit from the Nostalgia Wikipedia. The edit was at the title "The Simpsons/Homer" on the Nostalgia Wikipedia, so I had to move the English article to the title with the slash in it, catch the edit from the Nostalgia Wikipedia, then move the page back again. I dunno if it was a good idea to do that while the article was featured on the Main Page, but it was a fairly quick operation so the disruption was minimal. Graham87 04:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- But why did the old edit need to be imported, and what caused it to happen now? Enigmamsg 04:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- It needed to be imported because it wasn't in the page history at en.wp, but it *was* in the page history of the Nostalgia Wikipedia. Importing has just been recently enabled for admins here (also see requests for page importation), so I'm going crazy trying to import as many edits as I can. I decided to import the Homer Simpson article today because it is today's featured article. Graham87 04:17, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. I have a little better understanding of what was done now, although I still don't have it completely clear. Enigmamsg 07:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- This might clarify it a bit, or it might make you even more confused. :-) The reason why the edit I imported into Homer Simpson didn't originally appear in the page history is because the attribution of the last edit before the conversion to the new software was lost, and if you look at most diffs of Conversion script's edits, it appears to perform an edit while doing its "automated conversion". See this conversation from November 2002 about the topic. "199.174.169.xxx" was the last person to edit the Homer Simpson article before the conversion to the new software, so his/her edit was lost, until now! In the old Wikipedia software, UseModWiki, IP addresses were always stored with the last octet replaced with "xxx". Graham87 07:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. I have a little better understanding of what was done now, although I still don't have it completely clear. Enigmamsg 07:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- It needed to be imported because it wasn't in the page history at en.wp, but it *was* in the page history of the Nostalgia Wikipedia. Importing has just been recently enabled for admins here (also see requests for page importation), so I'm going crazy trying to import as many edits as I can. I decided to import the Homer Simpson article today because it is today's featured article. Graham87 04:17, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- But why did the old edit need to be imported, and what caused it to happen now? Enigmamsg 04:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
A related question: Is there any reason why the page title The Simpsons/Homer needs to stick around now that the history has been merged? I realize that that was the original page title, but it doesn't jibe with our current standards that explicitly don't use subpages. Moreover, Talk:The Simpsons/Homer has already attracted a useless edit. If there's a reason it has to stick around, that's fine, but if not please clean such subpage-style redirects up after you merge the edits. Thanks — Gavia immer (talk) 04:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've deleted it. I generally like to leave redirects in the same state they were in before I history merged them. I know that Every Edit Is Sacred isn't official Wikipedia policy, but I try to abide by that principle. Graham87 04:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt reply. So long as I'm here, let me thank you for doing this kind of work. Most people won't notice it, but to me the improvements to attribution are reason enough even without considering the text that goes with it. — Gavia immer (talk) 05:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words. I love this kind of work, especially when I can import a large number of relevant edits. The activation of Special:Import felt like an early Christmas present for me. Graham87 05:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Freemasonry
I see that you are importing edits, but it looks like you crossed up your namespaces with respect to Freemasonry - you have material moving from the Talk page history to the article history. On top of that, you've got so much stuff moving around I can't reallyy tell what you did or where it ended up. MSJapan (talk) 07:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Graham... I have to admit that I had some difficulty following all this as well. It may help us follow what you did if you also explained why you did it. Blueboar (talk) 21:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- (I see from some other querries here that I am not alone in wondering what is going on with the imports from Nostalgia Wiki... I would suggest that you devise a standard "Re: Nostalgia Wiki" comment that you could paste onto the talk pages of articles whenever you import stuff - ideally before you confuse everyone with the imports. Leaving a comment might save you a lot of grief and effort re-explaining what is going on. Just a thought) Blueboar (talk) 21:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating an explanation of what you have been doing. It certainly helped me understand (although I still wonder why you are bothering to do it). Have fun with the importing. Blueboar (talk) 14:53, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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For preserving Wikipedia's history, User:Graham87/Import and just for being such a great Wikiarcheologist :) Ϫ 11:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thankyou very much! :-) Graham87 11:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Request for clarification
Hello, can you, please, summarize in a sentence or two what all that moving, renaming, restoring, etc you did from 5:06 to 5:08 and then again from 10:48 to 10:50 on Dec 26, 2009 was all about? What was the goal and what have you accomplished? Thanks, Arcfrk (talk) 07:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
- Same question re: REXX at 09:05–09:06 EST. Net result seems to have been no change, but what's up? RossPatterson (talk) 04:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- I imported old edits from the Nostalgia Wikipedia. This edit and this edit are newly imported. The reason why there is overlap in the page history is quite convoluted, and is kinda similar to what happened to the history of the KRYPTON article (see User:Graham87/Page history observations). :-) I had to delete and undelete the pages to get rid of a junk edit that came in with the import. Graham87 04:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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Mate
Happy new year to you and thanks for popping in on the new baby - so to speak - any help is appreciated - linking back to locations and cleaning up or mentioning the earthquake issue is another to do - by the way it is interesting google in all its wisdom links to what look like great sesimicity in wa links - but they come up as dead links - heheh - but if one tries them via the state library catalogue site - henrietta - the link is to the pandora archive and the articles in question are there - tricks for punters i say! - have a good new year and best wishes SatuSuro 07:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for what you have done anyways - yes I think there have been since 1979 - need to check some mor eof the info -89 rings a bell - will do a check for some more significant ones since cadoux - cheers SatuSuro 07:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
But - via the liswa catalogue - so you have to know what you are looking for - if you try http://www.google.com.au/search?q=south+west+seismic+zone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a - google does that and we get nowhere but http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S2?/Xearthquakes+in+western+australia&searchscope=2&SORT=D/Xearthquakes+in+western+australia&searchscope=2&SORT=D&SUBKEY=earthquakes%20in%20western%20australia/1%2C11%2C11%2CB/frameset&FF=Xearthquakes+in+western+australia&searchscope=2&SORT=D&4%2C4%2C henriatta comes up with that and by a sideways jump we get http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/25962/20020718-0000/www.geol.uwa.edu.au/swsz/swsz.htm which sort of gets into the stuff i need for south west seismic zone sigh... cheers SatuSuro 07:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Actually after all the way around that - the easiest way in is via http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/25962 - sorry about all the fluff SatuSuro 07:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thank you
Thank you for taking care of my old chris mahan page and related stuff. I frankly forgot all about it. I appreciate your help :) Christopher Mahan (talk) 13:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Ping (or maybe it should be "chirp" since that's what crickets do?)
Please see my talk, and continue discussion there if there is more to do. Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 17:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Opus numbers and accessibility
Hi Graham, Do you have any comments to add to this discussion? --Robert.Allen (talk) 07:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, that was helpful! --Robert.Allen (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki moves
I am wondering about the recent import, deletions and moves for the Constructed language article. I have seen this done on a number of other articles I track; the article and talk do not seem to be changed afterwards, and the intermediate pages at WikiMedia usually end up not existing. And if you don't mind, could you answer here? It would help to satisfy the curiosity of others. Thank you for your time. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 16:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm importing old edits from the Nostalgia Wikipedia, a copy of the Wikipedia database from 20 December 2001, which contains edits that aren't in the current English Wikipedia database. I often import pages to the MediaWiki talk namespace to avoid overlapping edits; it's also an out-of-the-way location. For more information, see my subpage at User:Graham87/Import. Graham87 16:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 16:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
swimming pool articles
Hi, I noticed you have made a few edits to swimming pool and was wondering if had any particular interest in the article or those that link from it. I noticed a paragraph that struck me as odd about some sort of monitoring system. It looks to me as if someone has decided to promote these devices through wikipedia, though it could be that I just don't know enough about them. I left a message on the talk page, and edited the article to remove what I thought was needles promotion. The devices even have their own pages Pool safety camera and one for the particular model Poseidon drowning detection system. Neither have references (just external links to the company's site) and nothing on the talk pages. I'm not very familiar with the tags put on articles - NPOV, AfD - but I feel that they need some serious work if they're to remain as an entry to an encyclopedia.
It could be that I'm being heavy handed about this and that it is used somewhere in public facilities or on an increasingly common basis. However, I don't think that's the case.
If you have some time, could you look at those articles? I just saw that you made several edits to the page, and came here looking to find someone who might take an interest in the article and edit it. Sorry for being lazy and not doing all this myself, I'm just hoping you've got a bigger interest in them! Lime in the Coconut 18:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Lower Mainland import
I don't understand what you imported, or why Nostalgia Wikipedia even exists. The info in the Nostalgia article is out of date and also "out of definition"....Skookum1 (talk) 15:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK I see what you imported; but I don't see the point in importing old/out of date/wrong information/contexts/definitions. And re what you did add, be aware that regional districts are not relevant to regions and that the region definitely is not only those municipalities; it's a misapplication to think it's only Greater Vancouver or the GVRD (which are two different, though overlapping, things); and technically Lions Bay, historically, was not part of it (anywhere a boat had to be taken to was implicitly not part of the Lower Mainland; the road (and railway) used to end at Horseshoe Bay). The GVRD also included areas like Alvin, at the head of Pitt Lake (which is in the FVRD now), and the FVRD includes part of the Fraser Canyon, which is not part of the Fraser Valley or the Lower Mainland. Also the Lower Mainland is not used for any census count, though BC Stats may keep its own records for that. Regional districts should not be used as conceptual frameworks for BC's regions; they are sometimes made out of pairings of those regions (Okanagan-Similkameen, Columbia-Shuswap) but even so their boundaries are arbitrary/politically-created and not reflective of geographic or social reality; and there are other subdivisions/frameworks in the province....Skookum1 (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Service awards proposal
Hi MIQ, why did you send me that message? I deleted a service award from my user page over a year ago because I couldn't be bothered updating it, but I haven't had any involvement with the system since then. Graham87 05:08, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry…I'm not sure how I made the mistake. I just subst'd this template on every userpage from which it was linked. It's possible that one of your archives contains the template, and I missed that it was an archive when posting this. — the Man in Question (in question) 18:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yup, this is the culprit: User talk:Graham87/Archive 6. — the Man in Question (in question) 21:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
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Rebeccca Schroeter
Hello Graham87,
I'm puzzled about what you're doing at this article. If you move the External links into the middle of a field, it doesn't display! Could you please check it again and make sure it's visible?
Thanks very much, Opus33 (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Links to German artists
You advised me well on links to de-WP. I generally agree but feel that in some situations a red link is less helpful than an inter-wiki-link, examples: a singer with a career only in Germany decades ago - a choir director who will probably never receive international fame - a conductor who will perhaps get known worldwide years from now. Do you agree? - Please answer here, I will watch. Btw I liked a short stay in Perth and vicinity. And I do fill red links for German artists like Klaus Mertens. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- I think that a classical musician who is well-known only in Germany or in German-speaking countries is notable enough for the English Wikipedia, because there's a large market for classical music over there; therefore he/she should have a red link. I don't know of any guidelines about this topic, however. I noticed your creation of the Klaus Mertens article. Where did you go in Perth and Western Australia? I like WA but sometimes I feel that we're too isolated (for example when obtaining services for the blind). I'd like to take a trip to Europe when I have enough money. Graham87 17:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your prompt response! I have no time for WA now (choir rehearsal, + I forgot the names, it's long ago, we travelled east, then south to the coast - I remember a sign at steep cliffs: you have been warned, - then back along the coast) but would like to point out that Wolfgang Schäfer followed Helmuth Rilling at the Frankfurt Hochschule für Musik but retired already - who would write an article about him? (Rilling as professor in Frankfurt is not mentioned in his en-article but de.) And it really surprised me that there is no article about Edgar Krapp who is almost a synonym for organist in Germany. Do you think stubs on those people - just to make the link to German easier - would be a good idea? Or how else to hint where more info can be found? I don't think the language is in the way because most such articles name institutions, composers, works - internationally more or less the same. Choral greetings --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think stubs on those people in English would be the best solution. It doesn't have to be a full translation, just the basics. I notice now that we do have a guideline encouraging inline interlanguage links at Help:Interlanguage links#Inline interlanguage links, so maybe I've been a bit harsh. I still think they break the principle of least astonishment and shouldn't usually be used. It helps that the names are the same in both languages, but if I were a new user of Wikipedia who only knew English, and I stumbled into another language version of an article, I'd be quite confused. There'd be no "English" link to get me back to the English Wikipedia and I'd have to use the back button in my browser. I know that interlanguage links look different but I'm not sure how noticeable this would be to the average user. This might be an interesting topic to bring up at the village pump. Graham87 03:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- It took me a while to respond because in 2 days I created 8 such stubs, not only for Germans: one Swedish, on Polish, one Britisch, two Dutch, leaning a lot. Adding a link to languages as Japanese, Hebrew and Chinese I think I know what you mean by "least astonishment". As for Chinese, I didn't succeed but got a message ... thank goodness the back button would always take me back. The ensemble Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir will appear on DYK in a few hours, therefore I wanted to change as many singers from red to blue as I possibly could. How about interwiki-links looking green, smile? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, that must have been some work! Yes, where would we be without the back button? :-) I'm slightly concerned about users who don't know about the back button or don't have one for whatever reason (there are some weird and wonderful browsers and computer setups out there), but I'd agree with you that the problem is nowhere near as bad in Latin languages as it is in Chinese, Hebrew, etc. Graham87 16:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks for careful editing and improving my English - just in time, DYK right now. Did you know that my first article was about someone named Graham? Graham Waterhouse - Some day I will write about Wolfgang Schäfer who was the teacher of our cantor and who conducted a (danger: German) memorable concert with his chamber choir. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Wow, Graham Waterhouse sounds like an interesting composer, especially the instruments he uses! The combination of a Great Highland Bagpipe and a string orchestra sounds rather unusual; if they both play together, tuning could be difficult. Graham87 02:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- It is, s. Great_Highland_Bagpipe#Music (last lines), - and "noise level" is also a problem. The piece is on CD, as you will have noticed. And there is a version for winds and strings called Jacobean salute. Thanks for your interest, I'll pass it on to Graham W.. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Wow, Graham Waterhouse sounds like an interesting composer, especially the instruments he uses! The combination of a Great Highland Bagpipe and a string orchestra sounds rather unusual; if they both play together, tuning could be difficult. Graham87 02:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks for careful editing and improving my English - just in time, DYK right now. Did you know that my first article was about someone named Graham? Graham Waterhouse - Some day I will write about Wolfgang Schäfer who was the teacher of our cantor and who conducted a (danger: German) memorable concert with his chamber choir. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, that must have been some work! Yes, where would we be without the back button? :-) I'm slightly concerned about users who don't know about the back button or don't have one for whatever reason (there are some weird and wonderful browsers and computer setups out there), but I'd agree with you that the problem is nowhere near as bad in Latin languages as it is in Chinese, Hebrew, etc. Graham87 16:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- It took me a while to respond because in 2 days I created 8 such stubs, not only for Germans: one Swedish, on Polish, one Britisch, two Dutch, leaning a lot. Adding a link to languages as Japanese, Hebrew and Chinese I think I know what you mean by "least astonishment". As for Chinese, I didn't succeed but got a message ... thank goodness the back button would always take me back. The ensemble Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir will appear on DYK in a few hours, therefore I wanted to change as many singers from red to blue as I possibly could. How about interwiki-links looking green, smile? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think stubs on those people in English would be the best solution. It doesn't have to be a full translation, just the basics. I notice now that we do have a guideline encouraging inline interlanguage links at Help:Interlanguage links#Inline interlanguage links, so maybe I've been a bit harsh. I still think they break the principle of least astonishment and shouldn't usually be used. It helps that the names are the same in both languages, but if I were a new user of Wikipedia who only knew English, and I stumbled into another language version of an article, I'd be quite confused. There'd be no "English" link to get me back to the English Wikipedia and I'd have to use the back button in my browser. I know that interlanguage links look different but I'm not sure how noticeable this would be to the average user. This might be an interesting topic to bring up at the village pump. Graham87 03:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your prompt response! I have no time for WA now (choir rehearsal, + I forgot the names, it's long ago, we travelled east, then south to the coast - I remember a sign at steep cliffs: you have been warned, - then back along the coast) but would like to point out that Wolfgang Schäfer followed Helmuth Rilling at the Frankfurt Hochschule für Musik but retired already - who would write an article about him? (Rilling as professor in Frankfurt is not mentioned in his en-article but de.) And it really surprised me that there is no article about Edgar Krapp who is almost a synonym for organist in Germany. Do you think stubs on those people - just to make the link to German easier - would be a good idea? Or how else to hint where more info can be found? I don't think the language is in the way because most such articles name institutions, composers, works - internationally more or less the same. Choral greetings --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Stubs and alt text
Perhaps you could comment here? Thanks, –xenotalk 15:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Could you copyedit Pichilemu please?. --MW talk contribs 16:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'll do it tomorrow. It's past midnight here and I need to be in bed soon. Graham87 16:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- More precisely, I'll do it later today. :-) Graham87 16:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. :) --MW talk contribs 16:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've had a go at copyediting the article, but some parts of it were unclear to me. I noted these parts using HTML comments "<!--" and "-->",. Thanks Gerda for helping out as well. :-) Graham87 08:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. :) --MW talk contribs 16:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- More precisely, I'll do it later today. :-) Graham87 16:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
"history merge"
How do you do that? There are things that need merging but I don't want to lose the attribution history of either. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 11:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Your input requested
At Wikipedia talk:Accessibility#MOS:COLLAPSE outdated advice?. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 05:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Cat delete
Hi there. Could you pls delete this category? I created that category but a typo crept itself into the title and so I created a new cat with the correct name. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 13:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Import?
I see that you imported into Adam Smith but I cannot see that it had any effect. I look at the history and there is no difference between the current revision (that you imported) and the previous version. But clearly SOMETHING happened SOMEWHERE. So can you explain the expected result of importing? I read your subpage at /Import, also Help:Import and the discussion at Village Pump but I still don't see what is visibly different after the import. Just where is the old text from Nostalgia? The goal of preserving old edits seems worthwhile but not if they are invisible. Sign me curious. Sbowers3 (talk) 16:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, so the diff showing an import is like a diff showing a move which is why there were no textual differences. I'm still curious as to the process. Is there anything anywhere that points to the specific revision that was imported? I don't see anything in the history or in the log that links to the imported revision. If you weren't around and someone wanted to see the imported revision how could someone find that revision?
- I went to the very earliest revision in the history. The second revision is the one that you identified as the imported one. Reading that revision there is nothing obvious that marks it as an import transwiki revision. ls that correct or did I overlook something? BTW, it's interesting that if you read the very earliest revision it says that there is a previous revision, which is actually a later revision. I assume that is related to the revision ID anomalies you mentioned in principle 6. Thanks for satisfying my curiousity about the process. Sbowers3 (talk) 23:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
What?
i never made a edit to pleasre? thats wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.117.68 (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)