Talk:Sara Radstone

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because --RSLLX (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC) it is the first on Wikipedia regarding the eminent ceramicist Sara Radstone. She has been a practicing artist and has lectured in the UK and internationally for 40 years; her work is exhibited around the world and documented in many publications; her work and ideas have been influential among her peers and students; in 2017-2018 her career was celebrated in a retrospective exhibition at York Art Gallery's Centre of Ceramic Art. For the last 26 years she has taught on the highly respected Ceramics Diploma Course at the City Lit in London. Her life's work should no longer be omitted from the pages of Wikipedia, where many of her important contemporaries - such as Julian Stair, with whom she once set up a studio - can be found. Many students, past and present, have highlighted the absence of a Wikipedia page about her work when searching online for academic purposes. This article was researched and written by RSLXX, a long time admirer of her work. RSLLX (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is clearly notable - see for example the profile in Modern British Potters & Their Studios, by David Whiting, and the York retrospective. Johnbod (talk) 15:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RSLLX Please add citations for each paragraph in the lede, Teaching, Work, and Exhibitions. If there is no reliable source for the information, consider removing it. You may want to read Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Essays/Primer for creating women's biographies. Thanks WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WAU, Johnbod - I removed the tag, as all seems to be fine now, with the exception of the biblo - which given the area she works in would never be available on line, and the Anthony Shaw quotes. Re Shaw, I'm undecided, on the one hand he is notable himself, on the other hand as he has been collecting her work of course he would say that, even though its appropriately descriptive. Anyways, I don't doubt that he said these things, all that OP has posted checks out so far. If RSLLX is reading can you email me a copy of the exact source...if you don't know how say so here and will explain....otherwise there is alternative, but similar flowery text by Whiting on Shaw's website[1]....I don't really care which. Ceoil (talk) 23:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ceoil. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion re this article

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red#Draft:Sara_Radstone Johnbod (talk) 17:50, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

now at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Archive_87#Draft%3ASara_Radstone --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:06, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exhibitions etc

Moving here from article...once citations are established, can be moved back into a dedicated "exhibitions" section. Ceoil (talk) 22:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not attached to restoring these, epically to the lead...it can be assumed that if an artist was displayed at the V&A, they have had a series of earlier showings. Ceoil (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also moving here....pending verification...then can be moved back. Ceoil (talk) 10:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crafts Council, London
Contemporary Art Society, London
Robert and Lisa Sainsbury Collection, University of East Anglia
Shigaraki Ceramic Cultural Park, Japan
Los Angeles County Museum of Art
Arizona State University Art Museum
Arkansas Arts Center
Museum für Kunsthandwerk, Frankfurt
Buckinghamshire County Museum
Birmingham City Art Gallery
Paisley Museum and Art Gallery
Ulster Museum, Belfast
Swindon Museum and Art Gallery
Town of Chateauroux
Aberdeen Museum and Art Gallery
MIMA, Middlesbrough
The Anthony Shaw Collection, Centre of Ceramic Art, York

===Publications===

Sara Radstone: More than Words, The Anthony Shaw Collection 2018^[1]
Richard Stubbs,Conversation Pieces 2014;
Phil Sayer, Studio, Ruthin Craft Centre, 2012;
David Whiting, Modern British Potters and their studios, A&C Black 2010;
Michael Hardy, Coiling, A&C Black 2006;
Jane Perryman, Naked Clay, A&C Black 2005;
Cyril Frankel, Modern Pots, Lucie Rie, Hans Coper and their Contemporaries, the Lisa Sainsbury Collection, UEA 2001;
Jo Lauria, Color and Fire: Defining Moments in Studio Ceramics 1950-2000, LACMA / Rizzoli 2000;
Edmund de Waal, Design Sourcebook: Pottery and Ceramics, New Holland 1999;
Richard Zakin, Ceramics - Mastering the Craft, Krause Publishing 2000;
Betty Blandino, Coiled Pottery, (reprint, update), A&C Black 1996;
Garth Clark, The Potter's Art, Abbeville Press 1992;
Oliver Watson, British Studio Pottery, V&A/Phaidon/Christies 1990;
Paul Rice and Christopher Gowing, British Studio Ceramics, Barrie and Jenkins 1989;
Betty Blandino, Coiled Pottery, A&C Black 1984

^ "Sara Radstone: More than Words". York Museums and Gallery Trust. Retrieved 20 November 2020

Pictures

I've only scanned this article but I am concerned that the pictures are not permitted on wiki as Sara Radstone would have to give explicit permission - unless these 3d pieces of art are on permanent display in some public space. Victuallers (talk) 23:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. While photographs of three-dimensional objects almost always generate a new copyright, Radstone may continue to hold copyright in items depicted in such photographs. See Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Photographs Vexations (talk) 16:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[2] explains (not fantastically clearly) how the copyright release can be made. It might be necessary for both Sara Radstone and the photographer to do this for their respective rights. If this can be done, more photos would of course be very welcome. Johnbod (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Publications section?

What is this section? Is it a list of publications which mention her? In which case I question wether we need it and if we do it needs to be re-titled further reading. Theroadislong (talk) 13:47, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's an unsorted mixture of things about her, by her, and mentioning her. Worth keeping, but maybe as FR. Johnbod (talk) 15:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

moved CV laundry list off main space

moved CV laundry list off main space. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:51, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

Leaves of Clay, Ceramic Review, Jan/Feb 2015;
Review, Ceramic Review, March/April 2005;
Review, Ceramics in Society, Summer 2002;
Review, Crafts, May/June 2002 (page 51);
Review, Ceramic Review, May/June 2002 (page 59);
Review, Crafts, May/June 1999 (page 61);
Profile and review, Studio Pottery, August/September 1997;
Pandora's Box (catalogue), Crafts Council 1995;
The Raw and the Cooked (catalogue), Museum of Modern Art, Oxford 1993;
'Acquisitive Artists', Arts Review, December/January 1993;
Review, Arts Review, February 1990;
Review by Tanya Harrod, Crafts, May/June 1990 (page 53);
Article, Monthly Crafts (Korea), October 1990;
Review by Jane Hamlyn, Crafts, March/April 1989;
Review by Graham Hughes, Arts Review, February 1988;
Review by Alison Britton, Crafts, May/June 1988 (page 49);
'Radstone Wins at Portobello', Crafts, July/August 1988 (page 8);
Review by Emmanuel Cooper, Crafts, January/February 1987;
Profile by Angus Suttie, Ceramic Review, July/August 1986 (page 22);
Review by Alison Britton, Crafts, September/October 1986;
'British Ceramics in Czechoslovakia', Milena Lamarova, American Craft, February/March 1985;
Review, Ceramics Monthly (USA), January 1984;
Profile by Richard Deacon, Crafts, May/June 1983 (page 26);
Review by Griselda Gilroy, Crafts, July/August 1981.