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A lot of Carson's policies are described with almost campaignesque descriptions. If this is a quote from his platform, it should be clearly marked as such. Else, this should be cleaned up with more neutral, encyclopedic language. [[User:Pseudo(Avicenna)|Pseudo(Avicenna)]] ([[User talk:Pseudo(Avicenna)|talk]]) 02:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
A lot of Carson's policies are described with almost campaignesque descriptions. If this is a quote from his platform, it should be clearly marked as such. Else, this should be cleaned up with more neutral, encyclopedic language. [[User:Pseudo(Avicenna)|Pseudo(Avicenna)]] ([[User talk:Pseudo(Avicenna)|talk]]) 02:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== NPV: Tenure section is one-sided (negative) == |
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This section should be retitled, "Things André Carson said that made white people uncomfortable." A section pertaining to the '''tenure''' of a 15-year incumbent should give a sense of their overall career: their priorities, achievements, setbacks, etc. This section merely lists two accusations of racism that Carson made: |
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:1) His having said that he heard racial slurs hurled at Congressman John Lewis in 2010 and |
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:2) His anti-Tea Party remarks invoking lynching |
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The first is deprecated by saying that "Although audio and video recordings of the protest have been posted online, no proof of the racial slurs has yet been provided, and the reward remains unclaimed." |
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:1) Recordings of a crowd might easily have missed slurs that Rep. Carson heard. |
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:2) Why, when a Black person claims to have heard a slur, must white people insist on "proof." This, in itself, is bias. |
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:3) The source for the deprecating statement is the very biased Washington Times. |
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:4) The link doesn't even work any more. |
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:5) What reward? There's no prior mention explaining that a reward was offered or by whom. |
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Regarding the second, racism within the Tea Party movement is well documented, and while the Congressman's rhetoric was called out in the pages of the Washington Post by the liberal columnist [[Jonathan Capehart]] for being excessive<ref>{{cite news |last1=Capehart |first1=Jonathan |title=Andre Carson was wrong to invoke lynching |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/andre-carson-was-wrong-to-invoke-lynching/2011/03/04/gIQADrMJ6J_blog.html |access-date=30 March 2023 |publisher=Washington Post |date=6 September 2011}}</ref>, it's not as if nooses never turn up at right-wing rallies, is it? I'm not saying that Rep. Carson's rhetoric was justified, just that the piling on in this section of the Wiki article is excessive. Perhaps it should be retitled "Controversies" and rewritten with a NPV and less biased sources, but right now, it is simply evidence of [[White fragility]]. |
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[[User:A.T.S. in Texas|A.T.S. in Texas]] ([[User talk:A.T.S. in Texas|talk]]) 00:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Excessively promotional
A lot of Carson's policies are described with almost campaignesque descriptions. If this is a quote from his platform, it should be clearly marked as such. Else, this should be cleaned up with more neutral, encyclopedic language. Pseudo(Avicenna) (talk) 02:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
NPV: Tenure section is one-sided (negative)
This section should be retitled, "Things André Carson said that made white people uncomfortable." A section pertaining to the tenure of a 15-year incumbent should give a sense of their overall career: their priorities, achievements, setbacks, etc. This section merely lists two accusations of racism that Carson made:
- 1) His having said that he heard racial slurs hurled at Congressman John Lewis in 2010 and
- 2) His anti-Tea Party remarks invoking lynching
The first is deprecated by saying that "Although audio and video recordings of the protest have been posted online, no proof of the racial slurs has yet been provided, and the reward remains unclaimed."
- 1) Recordings of a crowd might easily have missed slurs that Rep. Carson heard.
- 2) Why, when a Black person claims to have heard a slur, must white people insist on "proof." This, in itself, is bias.
- 3) The source for the deprecating statement is the very biased Washington Times.
- 4) The link doesn't even work any more.
- 5) What reward? There's no prior mention explaining that a reward was offered or by whom.
Regarding the second, racism within the Tea Party movement is well documented, and while the Congressman's rhetoric was called out in the pages of the Washington Post by the liberal columnist Jonathan Capehart for being excessive[1], it's not as if nooses never turn up at right-wing rallies, is it? I'm not saying that Rep. Carson's rhetoric was justified, just that the piling on in this section of the Wiki article is excessive. Perhaps it should be retitled "Controversies" and rewritten with a NPV and less biased sources, but right now, it is simply evidence of White fragility. A.T.S. in Texas (talk) 00:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- ^ Capehart, Jonathan (6 September 2011). "Andre Carson was wrong to invoke lynching". Washington Post. Retrieved 30 March 2023.
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