Talk:List of Impact Wrestling personnel

TNA "Superstar".

Apparently, at least one of us thinks TNA uses "Superstar" as a proper noun, like WWE. Any evidence for this?

Here, it's used lowercase, along with "stars".

Lowercase here, here and here.

It's just a word, like wrestler, talent, performer, competitor, etc. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:25, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Also, compares this "Wrestler Roster" to WWE's "Superstars". InedibleHulk (talk) 10:34, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2016

Please remove "Janice Carter" & "Owner; President / Chief Executive Officer of Panda Energy International (parent company of TNA)". Please change Dixie Carter's status from "President" to "Owner & President". Reason: TNA UPDATE: MAJOR CHANGES COULD COME SHORTLY 76.235.248.47 (talk) 03:25, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

 Not done that article clearly states "MAJOR CHANGES COULD COME SHORTLY" not have actually occurred - Arjayay (talk) 08:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, the article does mention that Dixie bought out both Panda Energy & Jeff Jarrett's stakes in TNA, placing her as the sole shareholder (a.k.a. Owner) of the company. That information is in no way in dispute at all. 76.235.248.47 (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Chris Melendez

Is Chris Melendez still part of TNA or not? I haven't heard any news of Chris Melendez being released so I would assume that he is still part on TNA. Yet there is edit war going on as Melendez keeps getting added and removed from the TNA Wrestling personnel page here on Wikipedia. Also, it imposable to currently check http://www.tnawrestling.com/roster/Wrestler-Roster because TNA's roster page is saying that it is forbidden 2.222.35.142 (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Jeff Jarrett

Per sources, all Jarrett has been announced as is working in a backstage capacity. It doesn't matter if he wrestled the last time in TNA during the GFW angle, he has not been announced as wrestling in any capacity at this point in time. Until he has an actual TNA sanctioned match annouced, he should remain in backstage personnel section. Hellboy42 (talk)

Alexxis Neveah

Just to provide clarity regarding Alexxis Neveah...she appeared during the January 11 tapings, and she appeared again for the following night's tapings.

It is quite apparent that they are building up the feud between the Wolves as Mr & Mrs Edwards vs Mr & Mrs Richards. Vjmlhds (talk) 17:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Alberto El Patron

How is this a photo off of Facebook, reliable, But this is not? I'm calling shenanigans.Hellboy42 (talk) 03:47, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

You were edit warring so anything you post especially after you were warned for violating 3rr is pretty much unreliable, which is your fault. I told you to stop several times and you continued edit warring, which ended up getting you warned and reported. Also your linking to some guys personal twitter page, not TNAs Twitter or Alberto's or anyone associated with either of them but some random dudes twitter. The Facebook one actually links a picture, the Twitter just links some guys twitter. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 04:15, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Impact Wrestling

Should this page not be moved to "List of Impact Wrestling personnel" instead? 194.28.124.55 (talk) 00:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling personnel → List of Impact Wrestling personnel – Companies name has been changed to 'Impact Wrestling', as per the companies article here on Wikipedia, as shown in the lead paragrapgh. 194.28.124.55 (talk) 00:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Support - as nom. Darkson (I survived the 525!) 19:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Oppose until the change becomes more prominent. It's still in its beginning stages. There's no indication that their business venture/trademarking has changed. Plus, title belts still say TNA. DantODB (talk) 22:36, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Reply: see http://wrestlingnews.co/tna-news/its-official-the-tna-name-is-dead-former-wwe-star-makes-his-impact-wrestling-debut/ The company has been renamed. 194.28.124.55 (talk) 02:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

• Support per nom. oknazevad (talk) 03:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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Jeff Jarrett no longer Chief Creative Officer

Per Sports Illustrated: "Jeff Jarrett is out as Global Force Wrestling’s Chief Creative Officer". As stated here. Tabercil (talk) 01:47, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

The Harris Brothers

Hi. Do you know something about the Harris Brothers status? They were producers during the Dixie Carter era because TNA had a deal with Aroluxe. Right now, I don't now. Aroluxe failed in the race for TNA and they are creating a lucha underground-like promotion. Do you think they still working at Impact? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:39, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Rebel

Alright, since she's been added and removed several times, what is the official stance on Rebel being an Impact talent? She's making regular appearances again on TV even if it's just as a jobber, but then by the same token, Ishimori is listed as an Impact talent even though he spends most of his time back in Japan now. What's the diff? 210.48.190.88 (talk) 03:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

What Constitutes a Guest?

Alright, because some people keep removing talents when they disappear for five seconds citing "they're a guest," or removing LU talents which get added for the same reason, what's the reasoning here? In theory, shouldn't that mean Ishimori gets removed? If Ishimori counts as an Impact talent, shouldn't Steiner and Dreamer stay, and shouldn't Drago, Fenix and Aerostar be put back on the roster since they've all worked for Impact more recently than Ishimori recently? And what of Vikas Kumar and Bhupinder Singh who haven't even debuted with the company yet in spite of being announced as part of the Desi Hit Squad back in January?

210.48.190.88 (talk) 02:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

several problems

Hi, guys. I don't watch Impact since 2014. However, this days I saw a lot of edit wars about Impact roster. I know Impact has changed, several wrestlers aren't under iron-contract, some of them are doing some dates... do you have this under control? Remember, sourcing it's important and if there is some problem, discuss it here. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 01:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm gonna remove Steiner, Dreamer and Rebel. I know they are the problematic ones, but 1, Impact official website list them as alumni. 2, there is no source about them hired by Impact, even as backstage producers. If somebody wants to put them back, include sources about them being hired by Impact. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 01:17, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

So, you don't watch Impact, haven't watched Impact in ages, yet somehow feel it's your place to dictate to those of us who do who works for Impact based on your feelings even though Dreamer, Steiner and Rebel have worked for Impact recently with Rebel having worked the last three sets of tapings. And yet because they don't have active profiles it's not good enough for you and only you, the guy who says he never watches Impact. Brilliant logic there, chief. Damolisher (talk) 10:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

First of all, be WP:CIVIL since you're agressive in your last comments.I explained several times, Wikipedia works with sources. If Steiner and Dreamer are moved to the alumni section, they're out (except another reliable source claims they still with the company). I don't need to watch the TV show, just to read the sources. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:50, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

First of all, don't quote bureaucracy at me, and secondly, yeah, again, you're trying to dictate to people who watch Impact what they are and aren't watching. That isn't helpful in the slightest, that's just arrogance for the sake of arrogance. Your argument is literally "my opinion means more than everyone else's.

And furthermore, Dreamer and Steiner were in the alumni section while Steiner was one of the tag team champions and so was Dreamer while in the middle of a feud with Eddie Edwards. Rebel has a recent photo gallery and tweeted several times she's with the company. You're literally trying to claim only one source is valid. Damolisher (talk) 17:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

If you don't want to read bureaucracy, leave Wikipedia right now, since that's how wikipedia works. I explained the rules and guidelines of the website. I'm not dictating what are you watching, I'm saying who of these people aren't under contract with the promotion, a system Impact and ROH uses a lot (reading the tapings, I see al least 5 names). No sources, they're out. A theme song and a photo gallery means nothing. End of discussion. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:30, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

No, not end of discussion. They're current talent and it's called to roster, not a contracted wrestlers list. If they make regular appearances for the company then they're part of the company. Even if you want to argue that Dreamer and Steiner haven't been seen since Slammiversary or before, Rebel is still currently apppearing. Photo galleries and videos DO mean something because they indicate that talent is working with the company unless otherwise noted. You are not the authority on wrestling articles and yet again, you don't even watch Impact so if anyone's opinion is moot, it certainly isn't mine. You don't get to dictate how articles work.Damolisher (talk) 00:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:OR, WP:SYNTH. Sources don't say they are hired, just SYNTH and OR "they have a video, so that means..." No, it should be pretty clear. BTW, Rebel didn't work in the August TV tapings. And one more time, an user doesn't have to see the TV show to work in an article, just have to use sources. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:36, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Now if you could try using your own words instead of quoting technical jargon, that would be wonderful. My point stands, Rebel has worked with the company, has a new gallery and has her theme up on the Impact YouTube channel. You're splitting hairs and being obstinate for the sake of being a bureaucrat. Impact say Zach Wentz debuted, his theme is new, he did an interview before his match, so again, you're being obstinate. You have no proof which tells me I'm wrong, ergo, you're making edits which aren't constructive and go against Wikipedia's policy yourself. Damolisher (talk) 12:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

You're adding unsourced material, doing WP:SYNTH. Find a proper reliable source which says Rebel and Zachary signed cotnrcts with Impact, don't assume, that's how wikipedia works. That's why admins hate pro wrestling in wikipedia, full of synth, fans who include everything without knowing Wikipedia rules or guidelines. I'm not going to discuss since you don't know how Wikipedia works and looks like you don't read the guidelines I provided --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Taya Valkyrie

I get she has been inactive. It says that it is because of visa issues. If it is visa issues, than why is she being booked by independent promotions in the United States? Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 15:26, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

LU Trios champion

Hi. I have a question. As far as I know, Callihan never appeared in Impact as the LU Trios Champion. Do you think the note should be in the roster? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:24, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Gun-Jumping Reversions

Now, it's wonderful that HHH Pedrigree wants to be diligent and undo edits to the roster as soon as they happen, but wouldn't it make more sense under Good Faith to wait until something has been proven utterly false before undoing an edit? For example, The War Kings and Bram are obviously ambiguous and shouldn't be added to the roster until they appear in more than just a dark match, but Crazzy Steve has more evidence suggesting he's returned than he doesn't. I've included sources which somehow aren't good enough even though they back my point of view up. It's the same thing with Trevor Lee having not departed formally until January and it's the same thing with the Rascalz debuting. Somehow 3 weeks of usage and Trey Miguel being booked for the PPV doesn't mean they're under contract.

I'd wager money they'll air a vignette for Steve on Impact this week. My point is this: Can people lay off reversions until after Impact has aired? Because it literally seems like arrogance and hairsplitting for the sake of it when 9 times out of 10 the edits are correct to be there in the first place. Damolisher (talk) 09:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

First, I only want wikipedia articles follow the rules and policies of the websites. It's amazing how, the first reaction I have is "fuck the rules, let me do what I want" or "don't be a bureaucrat". Wikipedia has rules and we have to follow and one of the reasons the pro wrestling has a bad reputation is articles that don't follow guidelines. About the roster, is for wrestlers who are under contract and perform regularly. Right now, there is no sources of Bram, Crimson, Jax returning, just worked one day. For example, last week Raven apepared. Can I include him? Or why not James Logan? Again, not evidences or assumptions, sources. But, if you want to keep Crazy Steve, fine.

About the Trevor Lee, it wasn't my fault. A reliable source announced he left Impact. A few hours later, Lee said he was under contract. Let it go. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:38, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

So did you actually bother reading what I wrote? Because what I said was literally "The War Kings and Bram are obviously ambiguous and shouldn't be added until they appear in more than just a dark match." James Logan is obviously a jobber they bought in for the tapings which is why he hasn't been added. Petey Williams himself confirmed Raven was only there for the lead-up to Homecoming. If he shows up again actually managing someone, on the roster he goes. Crazzy Steve is a former talent appearing on an episode of Impact who won a match and has posted things which indicate he is back with the company. It isn't "fuck the rules, let me do what I want," it's "stop reverting things because you personally don't agree with them." You've been proven wrong multiple times before, yet you still do it to an article of a company you don't follow and don't watch. A little bit of common sense goes a long way. And the Lee example is literally you making an edit based on an assumption. It's exactly what you're complaining about, bud. Damolisher (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Did you read yourself? "James Logan is obviously a jobber they bought in for the tapings which is why he hasn't been added" WP:OR, WP:SYNTH WP:CRYSTALBALL. It's not i'm not agreeing with your edits, it about your edits being unsourced and full of OR and assumptions. The Lee edit it's the opposite, a reliable source informed Lee left the promotion at the moment. Then, he denied it, informing he was with the promotion. It's the opposite of an assumption, I follow what a source said. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:49, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

So I agree with the Steve edit as he didn't work in Mexico, but once again, STEINER HAS WORKED WITH THE PROMOTION MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. HE IS IN A RECURRING ROLE. Also, stop quoting jargon at me. Ask anyone who edits these articles and they don't have the foggiest as to what the hell "WP BLEH BLEH" is. Explain it in layman's terms or don't bother. Damolisher (talk) 08:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I am just gonna touch on a few here:

• Steiner has not wrestled a match for Impact since April 2018. He appeared at that one taping and that was it. He has made a cameo or two since, but those are just for legend/nostalgia pops and he hasn't wrestled.
• Austin Aries is on their roster page, however Impact producer Peter Williams said here his contract ended at Bound For Glory 2018. He is among their biggest names, so don't you think Impact would be using him if he's under contract? His not injured because he has been wrestling for other promotions.
• Dreamer should be left out of the wrestling section, probably will still compete but his backstage role will supersede his ring work I would assume. But if he continues to be invovled in programs we shoild leave him with the wrestlers
• If someone cameos at a taping just because they are a local on a pay per appearance deal, do not add them unless we have a source saying the signed a deal with the company. There's a reason why Puma King, Disco Inferno, Raven etc. are not on here. STATic message me! 11:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Rules and policies

I have to explain this one more time. Like it or not, Wikipedia is based around rules and policies and we have to follow. It's not about beign a bureaucrat, it's about follow the rules to have good articles. Then, roster articles are for people who are under contract and work regiarly with the promotion. It's not about who worked with them last week, it's about who are part of the promotion, no a one day appearance. Wikipedia is not about "he appeared, that means he is back" (that's WP:SYNTH) or "I bet money he will be again" (WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:OR)... we need sources about the wrestler signed a contract or they work regularly, no just a one-day thing, like for example, Kikutaro, Crazy Steve or War Kings. It's the same for Melissa Santos. She was the ring announcer during the Mexico Tapings, but that doesn't mean she will be the ring announcer the rest of the year. Rign now, without sources, she only worked one day. About Steiner, he only makes guest appearances. He is not part of the roster, we can't include him just because he makes one appearance every 6 months. It's not like Taker or Lesnar (wrestlers under contract who make guest appearances). He is not under contract and don't work regularly with Impact, he is called when Impact wants. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Or, here's an idea: You don't dictate to those of us who watch Impact what to do. You've repeatedly stated you don't watch, you repeatedly act like we answer to you when making edits and you repeatedly get in edit wars with other users, your latest instance being the status of Gursinder Singh! You first tell Chaosithe that Austin Aries being on the Impact profile page doesn't matter and then use the same alumni section as if it's gospel! Give it a rest!

Damolisher (talk) 06:14, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Here is another aidea. Read the policies I gave to you and understand my editions. And stop this harassment you made to me every time I make an edit. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:40, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Tommy Dreamer

So what's the difference between say, Tommy being a producer and Petey being a producer? Because Tommy wrestles more than "occasionally," he wrestled again during the Vegas tapings, twice in fact. He wrestles more than some of the roster, if we're honest. So why is he classified as backstage personnel rather than a wrestler as opposed to a wrestler with "producer" in his notes like Petey and like Abyss used to? 121.74.130.168 (talk) 08:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Ace Austin and Sawyer Fulton

Yet again, wrestlers have debuted with the company and yet again, somehow actual spoilers from the tapings aren't a credible source? How does that work? It's getting more than a little tiring going through this pointless rigmarole every single time someone debuts. Where is the contradicting evidence? The spoilers literally state that Sawyer Fulton joined OVE, even if you will say Austin winning both matches that weekend are circumstantial.

Damolisher (talk) 08:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Also, why do I keep having to justify any edit I make to the same 2 people all the time? 2 people who've been proven wrong multiple times, might I add?

Damolisher (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

This content needs to be removed immediately for violating WP: SYNTH. This user is passing off information that the source he is using does not say. Impact constantly uses local talent for a single taping, it does not mean they are a part of the company now. WrestlingInc is one of the most unreliable sources out there. I am sure they are giving accurate spoilers, but nothing they say is reliable to us. The source you cited does not even say they are signed to the company at all. It says nothing of the sort. That is WP: OR and WP: SYNTH. StaticVapor message me! 08:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

That's nice. If you'd like to explain that to me not using technical jargon, that would be lovely. What would be lovelier is actually reading the source and using common sense. It's hardly "original research" when the people sending in the spoilers are actually at the show. Why would Sawyer Fulton show up and align himself with OVE for one show only when he's not a big enough name for a oncer and isn't an Impact legend? Why would Ace Austin show up both days and win his matches rather than be used to put over currently established talent? Because it seems to be like every time things like this come up, rather than going "that makes sense actually, my bad," yourself and HHHPedrigree would rather go "Oh, well here's some Wikiproject thing which says that even though we can't prove you wrong and what you say makes sense, jargon."

C'mon, dude. There's listening to jargon and there's using commonsense. Damolisher (talk) 08:16, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Click the links I am providing and you could learn something about Wikipedia policies. Original research is you pretending that the sources say they are signed when they do not. StaticVapor message me! 08:21, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

That comment literally addresses nothing I just said. Not only are you making unhelpful edits, you're literally choosing to ignore reasonable and truthful counterpoints. Damolisher (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not go off what we as editors think happened (WP: OR), it goes off what reliable sources report as facts. (WP:V). StaticVapor message me! 08:42, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

"Yes, you're right. I won't admit it, but you're right. I have nothing, so I'll revert to jargon and bureaucracy." Damolisher (talk) 08:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Ace Austin

Hey, look kids! A promo for Ace Austin aired tonight AND his Twitter bio says he's an Impact Wrestling star! I'll be editing him back in and I expect no further harassment. Damolisher (talk) 06:15, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

If you do not learn to become civil with other editors you will not improve your Wikipedia experience. StaticVapor message me! 19:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

People wasting my time by removing edits which myself or others then have to edit back in later doesn't improve my experience either. It costs nothing to say "I was wrong, I'm sorry." Damolisher (talk) 19:31, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Delilah Doom

While Impact are calling tonight's episode of Impact Delilah's debut, is it fair to assume that was a "debut" in the vein of Zach Wentz, Trey Miguel and Ace Austin where she's simply enhancement talent until a future date, or is she actually with the company? Can anyone clarify this?Damolisher (talk) 08:04, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

A Reliable source saying that she has signed a contract or will work with the company henceforth. If not, assumption is WP:OR --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

That isn't what I'm asking. I'm asking if anyone can provide one. Thus "can anyone clarify this." Damolisher (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

I made a research and I found nothing. Only she worked during the tapings, not that she signed with Impact. Also, SoCalUncensored (which I don't know if it's reliable) said she didn't signed with Impact --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you for confirming. Damolisher (talk) 20:44, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

So these Disco Inferno rumours...

He's working the Vegas tapings but I've also heard the odd rumour here or there he's sticking around as a producer. Does anyone have any proof from anyone credible that he's not just there as a tapings only feud for Scarlett? Damolisher (talk) 21:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

I made a research, but I found nothing noting him as a producer. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, the source Static Vapor posted for Ace Austin states Don Callis has been on a hiring spree but also states Disco "was hired for Vegas." Reddit says someone he was a full-timer but I'll wait for something more concrete before he goes in. Damolisher (talk) 22:41, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Gursinder Singh's status with the company.

Simply because I am getting beyond annoyed with having to undo people removing Gursinder because for whatever reason Impact moved him to their alumni section, here it is in black and white: Gursinder is still with the company. Gursinder's "firing" was a storyline firing which they haven't explained because I don't think they know exactly what they're doing with the Desi Hit Squad. But Gursinder himself has been promoting himself being at Impact's Canadian tapings in March on Twitter since at least December and is doing a countdown of days as seen here: , here: and here: , in addition to still being used on house shows and teaming up with Raj Singh here:

So please, stop removing Gursinder. He is still with the company until otherwise confirmed by the man himself or the company itself officially. Damolisher (talk) 08:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)