Talk:Vampire

Untitled

• Article merged: See old talk-page here

Dont forget the vampires depicted in the Magic: The Gathering trading card game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkitan (talk • contribs) 03:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Romanian lore incorrect information (I am a Romanian, and it happens I know pretty well our lore)

The information about Vampire Academy being based on two Vampire types according to Romanian lore is absolutely false. I am a Romanian and I can assure you there is not such lore here, the author just took different names for the same creature and used it without any regards to the characteristics of the creature in the Romanian lore. There is only one race of Vampires here, the Strigoi, also known as the Moroi etc. (they had many names and many different characteristics according to every region, but is, none the less, the same creature - an undead or a revenant; and they do not suck blood either, just taking the lifeforce of their victims which are soon to die in a way similar to the vampire way - growing pale, melancoholic, ill etc.). The information should be change something like Vampire Academy pretends being based on Romanian lore or loosely borrows some concepts from Romanian lore or something like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VampiroTransilvania (talk • contribs) 02:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 August 2012

vampires were first created before god said "let there be light and there was light" these creatures are the remainders of the demons that inhabited the planet before light was ever in existence ergo that is why they burn in the sunlight. They needed the darkness to help oxygen go round their bodies but when light came they needed human blood to survive because their own blood can not carry the oxygen they need round their body in the sunlight but human blood can do that for them; the blood cells in the vampire blood kills of the human blood which is why they need to continually drink blood from human beings. 2.96.28.202 (talk) 23:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

That's an interesting theory, got a source?--Jac16888 ^Talk 00:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

History of the "Vampire" name

The word Vampire originates from Albanian word Dhampir and is in use also in other Balkan nations. For example, in many parts of Slavic world Vampires are called other names like ( вукодлак, лампир, лапир, вједогоња, једогоња) (on cyrilic), also in many parts of Serbia and Balkans. It originates from Slavic belief: "If someones dead body is not burned to ash his soul will forever be trapped on this world, and it would never find peace " So they burnen their dead on a big pyre, but in times of war it happened that someones body was never found or not treated like it should so his soul camed back to haunt the living. ~You should this add to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IgorVGD (talk • contribs) 18:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Igor, it is in the etymology section. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

The Albanian word for Vampire is Dhampir (Dham = teeth and Pir = drink/suck) … In the Albanian language the verb pir/pin/pi means simultaneously to drink and to suck … (e.g. the albanians say: "mushkonja/shushunja me ka pir gjakun" = "the mosquito/leech sucked my blood"). Thus the name Dhampir means Teeth-sucker … sucking via teeth. Dhampir is the original name of the later corrupted and slavicized "vampir". Dhampirs are evil nightly creatures with sharp and long teeth, very strong, quick, heavy and are mostly invisible to the eyes of the normal People. They fear the fire, the running water and the daylight, but like the music. These are dead people which were angry. They get up from the grave and come at night, bite people and animals and drinks their blood. Dhampirs are very sadistic; they terrify, beat up, rape women, kill and eat people.

Only a Dhampirash (Dhampirash = the child of a vampire father and a human mother) is capable to see the Dhampires, and knows how to fight or kill them.

He must make a circle from some burnable material and blood on the ground; afterward he lures the vampire into the circle while positioning himself in the middle of the circle, playing the fife (recorder) or whistling. Then he puts fire on the circle, so that the terrified Dhampire from the fire cannot flee, forcing the Dhampire to fight him.

Dhampirash must kill and burn the Dhampir, or new Dhampires will rise from every glow of these fires of a circle. When he has him killed and completely burnt, he must take his ashes/cinders and throw them in a river. (I told shortly and only the most important one)

Old tales from the Albanian folklore (Kosovo).

Slavs, Romanians and Roma (Gypsies) cannot pronounce the Albanian letter DH (DH = TH English like in The,Then,They,This,That etc.) so they usually replace it by the more convenient letter V. And some of Slavic people replace it by letter L (e.g. the Bosnians).

When a Slav (serv), Romanian or Roma (Gypsie) spells the Albanian word Dham for Teeth, he pronounces it as Vam (?), because he is incapable to say Dham (teeth). The Bosnians spells it as Lam (Dham).

When the Slavs came to Europe, they came into contact with the Albanian (Pelasgo-Illyrian) tales. Later they changed, corrupted and slavicized the name Dhampir into "Vampir" and "Lampir" (similar to other Albanian words), because they could not pronounce the original name Dhampir. Now, they try to claim these words for themselves, as well as others that were similarly amended from the Albanian vacabulary, but the original meaning of these words is lost, because they carry no connotation in Slavic or any other language, except for Albanian.

(Wikipedia: Serbian вампир/vampir, or, according to some sources, from Hungarian Vámpír. The Serbian and Hungarian forms have parallels in virtually all Slavic languages. The Bosnian Lampir which was the name of the oldest recorded vampire Meho Lampir.: Bulgarian вампир (Vampir)...)

If Romanians/Vlachs and hungarians speak Albanian, they say: "eve" (means edhe = also), "Via " (means Dhia = goat), "Uve" (Udhe = path), "Voma" (Dhoma = room), "Vam" (Dham = tooth) and "Vampir" (Dhampir = Vampire)

And if the Bosnians speak Albanian, they say: "ele" (means edhe = also), "Lia " (means Dhia = goat), "Ule" (Udhe = path), "Loma" (dhoma = room), "Lam" (Dham = tooth) and "Lampir" (Dhampir = Vampire).

The Albanian word for the female vampires is Dhampiresha/Dhampireshe ... (e.g., Luan (m) Luanesha/e (f) = lion (m) lioness (f) etc.

There are also Albanian surname "Dhampiri", and this surname means "Vampire".

Ænës — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.73.233.192 (talk) 06:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

WOW ... using a slur "serv" for Serbs..."incapable to pronounce words"...just add untermensch and jews are guilty for all and it feels like nazi news propaganda bulletin... i know you Albanians lost touch with reality ages ago but common...next thing you will say Latin is a dialect of ancient albanian ... for people in Balkans its getting ridiculous, every word, every invention, ANYTHING - and some albanian pops up with "proof" its theirs... saying some or any nation/race has limited linguistic skills is just horrible...trying to hogg history from other ancient nations in South Europe is not the way to make history for your people... Chechnya is hard to pronounce...you can pronounce "Ch"...can you? You should...--Jarovid

Edit request on 27 November 2012

Nessadora (talk) 11:48, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

 Not done as no specific edit was requested. Feel free to raise this again and tell us what change you would like to see made to the article. --McGeddon (talk) 12:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 April 2013 / First recorded Serbian judicial references against Vampire Hunt exhumations 1349 Emperor Dušan's Law Article 20

121.44.234.107 (talk) 16:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC) Serbian Emperor Stephen Uroš IV - Dušan The Great strictly forbids exhumation, staking and burning supposed "Vampires". This is detailed in Czar Dušan's Law Edict of 1349 - 3rd Serbian Constitution , Article No. 20. (1st Serbian Constitution 1219 "Zakonopravilo" by Prince Rastko-Sava Nemanjić later Saint Sava, 2nd Serbian Constitution by King Stefan Uroš II Milutin). Punishment to the local authority and community a hefty fine of 500 Perpers a medieval currency in Serbia used along with Dinar, and stripping local priest of title and the right to practice..."as judged by my imperial court" (this is 400 years prior to Habsburg Empress Maria Theresia's ban in 18th century). There is a question on timing of the code introduced in 1349 which coincidentally happens to be at the same time of the "Black Death" plague. This devastating period (at the time) of unnaxplained circumstances of death left great paranoia amongst populace across Imperial Serbia during reign of Dušan the Great, and the rest of the European continent. No studies so far have made thourough connections with Vampirism with the outbreak of the "Black Death" but the timing of the introduction of the "Article 20" may well be the earliest attempts to control and contain the Plague and other infectious diseases what might have been interpreted in Medieval Serbia as Vampirism. Currently there are no discovered surviving written records of the 2nd Constitution of Serbia by king Milutin referenced later in Dušan's Law "Dušanov Zakonik" of 1349 to compare and examine if previous references to "Vampire hunting" practice ban and exhumation of corpses existed. No recordings on such practices exist in the 1st Serbian Constitution "Zakonopravilo" from 1219.

For additional information on reference material contact ab_vg@hotmail.com

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)