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Newsletter delivery request

Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels

1. What should the title of your Newsletter be in the talk page message?

• The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

2. Please provide a link to your newsletter.

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Outreach/Newsletter November 2008

3. Please provide a link to a page that lists the members in the Wikiproject:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Members#Active members

Thanks - Boylo (talk) 07:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I will do it today -- Tinu Cherian - 08:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

 Doing... : Sorry for the delay -- Tinu Cherian - 05:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done by TinucherianBot : thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 05:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, no worries, as i have told them the newsletter is delivered sometime in the first week of month, in case of delays. I will be taking a break from wikipedia, but shall leave a note for whoever takes over as newsletter editor that your bot is always available, and if not that they can use xenobot. Regards Boylo (talk) 05:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Closure of WP:GEOBOT

Regrettably I have come to inform you, that this bot project will not go into operation and therefore the project will be closing down. Thanks everybody for their time and support but there is a clear reason why it failed. Dr. Blofeld (talk) 11:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

It is isn't a sudden decision. Its one that gradually became apparent that was difficult to achieve in the circumstances. First of all there was all the hoo-hah at village pump which was enough to put anybody off wanting to create new articles with a bot, then it was partly due to problems with compiling decent data to an acceptable level to create, vile and cynical people like Mick McGee around, problems with bot programming and the committments and restrictions that Fritz has in operating it. We hope the bot can still be used for GEO cleanup tasks in the foreseeable future though Dr. Blofeld (talk) 13:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Bombay

Hello Tinu. I have listed a few articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mumbai/Articles. Could you please tag them using your Bot. More articles later. I just wanna see how it works. Thanks, Kensplanet^Talk_{Contributions} 13:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done by TinucherianBot. See Example ..Sorry for the delay. I was terribly busy with many other things -- Tinu Cherian - 13:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if ur list is again updated -- Tinu Cherian - 15:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou very much. I'll update the list soon. Please run your bot next month too. Kensplanet^Talk_{Contributions} 18:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hi Tinucherian, and thanks for supporting my successful request for adminship. It was nice to see all the kind comments I got from my supporters and I hope that I will be more useful to the community now that I have the tools again.--Berig (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!!!

Thank you very much for the barnstar :-) -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 11:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

re:Hi

Hello, Tinucherian. You have new messages at Stepshep's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

§hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Weekly Episode 64

Hello! Good news, Wikipedia Weekly Episode 64 has been released. You can listen and comment at the episode's page and, as always, listen to all of the past episodes at wikipediaweekly.org. WODUPbot 05:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

You're receiving this because you're listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaWeekly/delivery. If you'd like to stop receiving these messages, please remove yourself from that list.

WikiProject Films October 2008 Newsletter

The October 2008 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have suggestions or comments related to the newsletter, please leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you and happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Since we only have 130 members, doing it myself only takes about 20 minutes. Hope you enjoy it and let me know if you need anything. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

odishatoday.com

Dear friend, first you need to establish why odishatoday is not WP:RS.-Bharatveer (talk) 10:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I request you to NOT to continue POV pushes to wikipedia. Here you have removed a reliable source like ndtv.com ( one of the leading tv channels in India) and added odishatoday.com as source which cannot be considered as neutral. You have noticed that I havent even removed the content "illegal beef trade " ( though pov from ur side) but removed the source to odishatoday.com and added a request for a Reliable source. I dont see any other articles expect one linking to the your said site ( see Special:LinkSearch/*.odishatoday.com ) in Wikipedia .The site seems to be Pro BJP and Orissa government ( a coalition government with BJP) . Just like I would STRONGLY object any pro-church sites linking to this article as sources, I am objecting the use of odishatoday.com with the same reasons that it may be biased . -- Tinu Cherian - 11:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Bharatveer, also just letting you know that you have already crossed 3RR for Religious violence in Orissa. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution ( I have left the same note on your talk page also ) -- Tinu Cherian - 11:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

User tinu, Please stop making senseless allegation. You know very well that I have not committed 3RR. See edit_diff@10:12 (This "revert" (related to sister's alleged rape) was for undoing removal of a "cited" source. See edit_diff@10:47.This revert was for undoing your senseless deletion of a cited source. As these two reverts were for two different sources, I dont understand how I committed 3RR. Please explain .-Bharatveer (talk) 11:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

A revert is any action, including administrative actions, that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part. Me, Senseless ? I request you to kindly stop any personal attacks. Let me strongly iterate, A source has to be reliable to be added to Wikipedia. Do you think I will allow a roman catholic church website to be added to this article as source ? No ! It is likely to be biased in this matter. As I had said earlier Here you have removed a reliable source like ndtv.com ( one of the leading tv channels in India) and added odishatoday.com as source which cannot be considered as neutral. You have noticed that I havent even removed the content "illegal beef trade " ( though pov from ur side) which you had added but removed the source to odishatoday.com and added a request for a Reliable source. let us keep everything factual and neutral please -- Tinu Cherian - 11:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Tinu, you are taking a literal "one-sided" view on this. Didn't you notice that "removal of NDTV ref" happened while reverting googlean's blanking of odishatoday ref. I say again that I have reverted only 2 times which will not in any case be 3RR violation. Again i never called you senseless, I asked you not to make any "senseless" allegation, which is the case here. I again ask you to put back 2 odishatoday refs in the article. A news site cannot be terned as not WP:RS just because it does not suit your views. -Bharatveer (talk) 12:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I have nothing more to say than this comments by Wiki San Roze. I have always said, I just dont care whether anti-x or pro-x, as long as it is sourced to reliable sources. If you feel I am wrong or biased , you are most welcome to report to ANI or take advice from any neutral admin. Have a gr8 day. -- Tinu Cherian - 13:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Image description

The caption of the image is "Syrian Christian bride". It is taken from page 450 of the book Castes and Tribes of Southern India Volume VI by Edgar Thurston in a chapter on Syrian Christians. In fact, "Syrian Christian bride" is the actual caption for the image in the book-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 18:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I left a templated note for u so that you may add the missing author parameter on the image page. Please see the image page -- Tinu Cherian - 18:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

The name of the photographer isn't mentioned. Well, Edgar Thurston was the author of the book but I'm sure if he was one who took the photographs. If the author of the book is to be mentioned, then I may very well fill in his name-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 18:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which recently passed with 126 in support, 22 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks for your strong support!! • If you want to reply to this message please use my talk page as watch listing about 150 pages is a bit messy • ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 19:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Tinu! Thanks a lot for the barnstar. And sorry for such a delayed response. I have become pathetically inactive in wikipedia :( How are you? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. Thanks for your efforts for WP and India related articles. ... I am fine too -- Tinu Cherian - 07:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Akkamma Cherian

On 7 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Akkamma Cherian, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 02:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Please Help

Hello, i have been trying to get my page to go live. Could you please update me with its status. I am very confused with what they are still checking?Eastvillage1 (talk) 19:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello there, I am not sure how you were redirected to me... but since you have asked me, let me try to help you. Reading your talk page , I understand that you are trying to put ( read as promoting) in Wikipedia. Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a promotional website. The contents we have strictly should adhere to mainly 2 aspects 1) Notability 2) Verifiability . but we strongly advocate aganist contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote your own interests or those of other individuals, companies, or groups. ( see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more information). Articles should demonstrate the notability of their topics, and articles on topics that do not meet this criterion are generally deleted, it is important to not just consider whether notability is established by the article, but whether it readily could be. The problem is not only without your promotional purpose username ( like the last one) but also what you are trying to do. Frankly, after reading User:Eastvillage/HotelPlanner.com , I am not sure whether it fits into the scope of WP ( actually doesnt ) and is mostly likely to be deleted again. For notable websites , see Msn.com as an example. If your company is really "notable" as defined by our Notability Guideline for Companies using reliable sources , then we would like to have a well-sourced, neutral article instead of your own promotional way.Please understand that we have these policies to keep the quality and standard of Wikipedia high. -- Tinu Cherian - 07:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Topaz Adjust

Hello,

I've been dealing with a page about Topaz Adjust. It's currently written like an instruction manual, author wants advice on how to make it encyclopaedic. Can you or someone else in the Wikiproject software deal with this for me?

Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 12:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a note on my talk page. I have added a few {{articleissues}} tags which relate to primary issues of the article. Please try to fix them appropriately. I will also help soon. Most importantly, please establish why the article content is notable to be on Wikipedia. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 14:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

my RFA

Since you already helped fix it, I figure it's not canvassing if I tell you my nom is now live. Cheers!--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 12:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Cisco 7600 series.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Cisco 7600 series.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I asked for the deletion of the image. Another image already exists Image:Cisco7600seriesrouter.jpg, of which permission has been received from the copyright holder to license this material under gfdl, and evidence of this has been lodged with the Wikimedia Communications committee, under OTRS ticket number 2007071610016982. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter

Hi Tinucherian: I'm wondering if I can get you to send out the Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds newsletter. I've been waiting since Oct. 31 for Brownbot to do it, but I think Cbrown must be a bit too busy with the fundraiser these days!

The newsletter is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Outreach/Newsletter. The link is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Outreach/Newsletter link. The list of participants is at Wikipedia:Wikiproject Birds#Participants, and the delivery requests (full contents, no delivery, etc.) is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Outreach#Delivery options.

Thanks! MeegsC | Talk 10:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I will do it today.. will keep you update of the progress -- Tinu Cherian - 11:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Outreach#Delivery options contains only a subset of users in Wikipedia:Wikiproject Birds#Participants , what about the rest of the users ? -- Tinu Cherian - 12:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that! The remainder should just get the newsletter link. MeegsC | Talk 14:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done by TinucherianBot. I discovered only later that you had given the link with {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} for the link only page on Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Outreach/Newsletter link. The issue is always shows the current month, so the note will say Decemeber in next month. -- Tinu Cherian - 09:02, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

sock/block message

Hi. I need to discuss this edit with you. There are two problems.

• The sock puppetry is not proven. That really requires a WP:RFCU or at minimum a WP:SSP discussion.
• By adding the proven template, you placed a message at the top of the talk page saying that the user had been indefinitely blocked which was not the case. In fact the editor was reported and subsequently being overlooked at WP:AIV because of the notice saying the account had already been blocked.

Please try to be more careful. Toddst1 (talk) 15:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Jobxavier (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is a disruptive , POV pusher and a sock puppet editor and is permanently banned from Wikipedia. See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jobxavier and Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Jobxavier. On User:116.68.99.231 page, Akradecki , an admin added the note as proven sock of User:Jobxavier (See page history of User:116.68.99.231 ) . With similar disrputive edits on the same page, it is not rocket science to understand User:116.68.99.91 is a proven sock of User:Jobxavier . Anyways thanks for leaving a note-- Tinu Cherian - 17:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, then please add the RFCU to the evidence field of the sock notice and please don't use "proven" in the sock notice because it explicitly states that the user has been indefinitely blocked. You aren't an admin and leaving block notices for folks that aren't blocked is not constructive. Toddst1 (talk) 17:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I may be not an admin but this template was added in good faith... but please understand {{sockpuppetProven|Jobxavier}} template meaning is a bit tricky one , which also mean the said account is a proven sock of a banned user . IT_IS_NOT a block notice. By adding {{sockpuppetProven|Jobxavier}} both by me and User:Akradecki, an admin , we meant that the said IP sock is a of a user who is banned indefinitely. User:Jobxavier was banned sock editor with lots of regsitered sock accounts and several disruptive edits from 59.93.34.0/24 and 116.68.99.0/24 ranges. Me together with several other editors have be constantly defending aganist the disruptive editor since some time now.User:Akradecki added {{sockpuppetProven|Jobxavier}} to User:116.68.99.231 page. Today the vandal and Pov pusher resurfaced with User:116.68.99.91 with the same kind of the editing on the same pages. and I added the {{sockpuppetProven|Jobxavier}} to mean the ip is a proven sock of User:Jobxavier , who is banned from WP. You know that we dont/cannot ban an IP definitely. I apologise if this is an error from my part. I have changed {{sockpuppetProven|Jobxavier}} to {{sockpuppet|Jobxavier}} ? Thanks for blocking the IP . you may ask User:Akradecki in case you need? -- Tinu Cherian - 17:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking 116.68.99.91 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and 116.68.96.5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) . Would you mind protecting for autoconfirmed users for

• Anti-Christian violence in India
• Anti-Christian violence in Karnataka
• Religious violence in Orissa
• September 2008 attacks on Christians in Mangalore ( current semi-pp till Nov 14)

The main reason is that fighting him ( excessive vandalism and POV pushing) is taking most of our WP activity these days :( ... -- Tinu Cherian - 05:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I see that Tinu cherian's reverting was correct. He was fighting against jobxavier's vandalism in good faith. I know that this problem wont be solved unless temporarily protecting aforesaid pages (those pages) where jobxavier editing by using multiple ip's (the said range of ip's is a proven sock of jobxavier). It seems every day we have to revert his edits, became a routine and pain to us, spoiling other users time & energy fighting against his vandalism. I left a comment at here too. --Googlean ^Results 05:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Cisco 7600 series.jpg

You could have just tagged this as speedy deletion per G7, since you uploaded it and don't want it anymore. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 17:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You are right, I wanted a "uploader requested speedy deletion", but selected the wrong option from Twinkle which selected the Image for deletion. Thanks a lot for the heads up and the note -- Tinu Cherian - 18:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)