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Thanks, and feel free to message me about anything. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 16:50, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2018

Your recent editing history at Dennis Prager shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Z33 --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:21, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Hi brother. Thanks for this edit. The wiki needs you. I recommend you put this page and such editors on your watchlist without fear. They do WP:POINT and WP:GAME. Do ping me anytime for opinions. Premium Astroboy (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Premium Astroboy: Who are you? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jews in Indonesia

the Sephardi Jewish community in Indonesia is made up mostly of descendants of the original residents or settlers. There is almost no active Jewish communities today in Indonesia and there numbers certainly do not add up to the hundreds. Therefore I don’t see it as a unnecessary clarification. Dont belittle245 (talk) 05:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Crossing the Red Sea, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Material was sourced and relevant Doug Weller talk 20:50, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, the claim was unsourced. In addition, it doesn't belong in article, let alone the lead. Archaeology is constantly making new discoveries, and not every event in ancient history can or has been proven by finding artifacts. Finally, such claim is disputed because apparently some people found evidence of an Egyptian army drowned in the Red Sea.--יניב הורון (talk) 21:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is sourced and we should simply report on what sources say, not speculate. You've fallen for fake news, if you read it regularly you must believe all sorts of bull. See [1] No such professor, the university didn't carry out such an excavation, the underwater photo was from Mexico in 2014. And the story said it was all found on dry land, so the divers were a clue that it was a hoax Doug Weller talk 22:04, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Sorry. I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know.--יניב הורון (talk) 22:07, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A community decision has authorised the use of general sanctions for pages related to the Syrian Civil War and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. The details of these sanctions are described here. All pages that are broadly related to these topics are subject to a one revert per twenty-four hours restriction, as described here.

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--NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:31, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to articles related to the Arab-Israeli conflict

Please note that the Arbitration Committee has prohibited editing by accounts with less than 500 edits and 30 days on the English Wikipedia from editing any article related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. This prohibition applies regardless of whether an administrator has applied extended confirmed protection to a page. You are welcome to contribute on the talk page of these articles. Also, apologies for giving you an alert a few seconds ago for this area. When I checked the logs, I saw NeilN's name, and thought it was in reference to the Syrian war sanctions above, not the Arab-Israeli conflict. My mistake there. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TonyBallioni The user is violating the the remedy. --Mhhossein ^talk 16:50, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision and for violating the 500/30 prohibition after being clearly warned. on the page Axis of Resistance, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please respect the remedy

Hey! As you can see on the article talk page, History of Jerusalem is a part of ARBPIA which you should not edit until the restriction of 30-days/500-edits is removed. Regards. --Mhhossein ^talk 07:47, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you are right. But the IP I was reverting wasn't allowed to edit in ARBPIA anyway (not to mention it was probably vandalism).--יניב הורון (talk) 09:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Cambalachero (talk) 14:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit warring on David Bar-Hayim

Please stop deleting sourced material without consensus. If you're having difficulty understanding the criteria for reliably sourced information, might I suggest you read WP:RS ? If you continue to WP:WAR by unexplained deletions as you have recently been doing on this page, I will have no choice but to report you and request that you be banned. Thanks for your understanding Winchester2313 (talk) 19:23, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018

Hello, יניב הורון, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who use multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. Moxy (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is my only account. But thanks for the warning?--יניב הורון (talk) 09:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Understandable frustration

I can understand how you feel about the way antisemitism is being treated on this site. This issue has regularly been totally removed from Jeremy Corbyn's article for the last three years and, I fear, is never likely to be given due weight. In the UK, it has been one of two fundamental contemporary issues concerning Corbyn's Labour leadership (the other being Brexit). As presumed followers of Corbyn seem to pop up to edit related articles when the issue of Antisemitism in the Labour Party is at its height, it can seem a 'no win' situation. But the number of articles where there is such a potential problem of Labour's totally inadequate response to antisemitism being downplayed, or removed, is usually quite small, so the issue is not unsolvable. Try editing other articles as a diversion to avoid accusations of disruptive editing or the 1/3RR rule. Philip Cross (talk) 13:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know much about the British Labour party. However, not mentioning Corbyn's involvement in antisemitism and his praising of notable antisemites at this point would be dishonest.--יניב הורון (talk) 13:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1RR

2018 Land Day incidents falls under I/P discretion, which includes 1RR. By reinstating material here, you are violating the restrictions. Please self-revert or I will have to report you to AE. Thanks.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain what's my second revert.--יניב הורון (talk) 00:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You added material that was removed by another editor. You then subsequently re-added the material, even though that is expressly prohibited, as is stated in the notice at the top of Talk:2018 Land Day incidents. —C.Fred (talk) 00:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What C.Fred said. I encourage you to take the opportunity I am giving you and self-revert.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I added NEW material, which doesn't count as a revert. Nevertheless, I'm going to revert myself to avoid edit-warring.--יניב הורון (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You may have your own opinion on what a revert is, but the restrictions are pretty clear. A revert alone is alright. But when the revert is on material you originally added and I contested, that counts as two points on 1RR.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I didn't know that. My apologies. I reverted myself already. Although I'm going to check if what you're saying is correct when it comes to reverts.--יניב הורון (talk) 00:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the interpretation per Graceful is correct on this - Wp:ARBPIA#General 1RR restriction. It doesn't seem to be a bog-standard 1RR to me, hence the potential for confusion. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 00:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Thanks.--יניב הורון (talk) 01:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think you also need to consider there is no "aftermath" for an ongoing event. This may very likely continue until May, as originally scheduled.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So why did you remove the entire content I added instead of removing just the title? Are you trying to be disruptive or what?--יניב הורון (talk) 01:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cute, but no. I clearly explained that your edit reiterates what was already said earlier in the article. Word to the wise: editors who have accused me of being disruptive have, sooner or later, found themselves blocked or topic-banned for (you guessed it!) being disruptive.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You know very well I added a different content, namely that Israel accused Hamas of using the protests to carry out attacks, and warned of future reprisals.--יניב הורון (talk) 02:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Second 1RR violation

This is also a double revert:

[2]
[3]

--Carwil (talk) 03:28, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yaniv - these are consecutive edits with no intervening editor, so they count jointly as 1 revert. However, I do suggest you take care when reverting.Icewhiz (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Telesur

Hello! I would like to make two comments:

1) Believing that CNN and "western" sources is the only reliable thing is subjective on your part.

2) Argentina no longer makes up Telesur since 2016 (Macri government).

It could be discussed in the discussion of the article and not generate an unnecessary war of editions.

Best regards from Buenos Aires. --Gastón Cuello (talk) 02:26, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

בתאבון;) Shrike (talk) 11:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I love baklava!--יניב הורון (talk) 12:35, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Yaniv, shalom. Would you agree that we replace the current photograph of the Tel-Aviv high-rises in the section entitled "Park Tzameret residential neighborhood in Tel Aviv," with the one of Beit Shemesh? It just looks better, and it still fits the description of an urbanized area, though not as large as Tel-Aviv, Jerusalem or Haifa. If not, what do you think about adding a picture Gallery at the bottom of the current article?Davidbena (talk) 23:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree with adding another gallery in the Israel article. Usually countries have only a small gallery in the geography section. As for the picture of Beit Shemesh from Beit Jamal, it doesn't look good. The flower is more visible than the buildings. Don't you have another one of Beit Shemesh?--יניב הורון (talk) 09:25, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. How do these two images fare in your eyes? Beit Shemesh - urbanization, Beit Shemesh, south?Davidbena (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I like this one--יניב הורון (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"you are not allowed"

Edit summaries aren't really conversations and shouldn't be cryptic. If there's something going on, please make it clear to the rest of Wikipedia, including administrators, so we can do something about it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I should have said "you are not allowed to edit here per ARBPIA 30/500." Even though when I did exactly that, it didn't help until I asked for page protection or to block user.--יניב הורון (talk) 02:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maps also need reliable sources

This may often be ignored, but it is basic policy. Please don't remove the cn tag again. Did you really see a reliable source on Commons? Doug Weller talk 19:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RfPs

If a page needs to be semilocked, you need to show that it is the decision of an admin or the arbcom to semiprotect a page. Reverting an edit with the cryptic explanation of 30/500 is definitely not good enough. 47.20.71.190 (talk) 03:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See the edit notice at now at Template:Editnotices/Page/Kamal Nasser. 47.20.71.190: the restriction applies to all articles in the topic area, whether or not ECP is active. I've now put it under ECP so it won't be an issue. This user has been blocked in the past for 500/30 violations (by me) which is why he is probably strict on it. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You need to make a self revert

2018 Gaza border protests is under ARBPIA remedy and you know this well. Per this remedy, "If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the revert." You've violated the remedy, since you are the original author of the text and you reverted me in less than 24 hours of my edit. A self-revert is expected.

Secondly, this is the second time you are making a personal attack by accusing me of "censoring". "Comment on content, not on the contributor." The third time, you'll be answering at the ANI. --Mhhossein ^talk 14:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eh? I didn't break 1RR. I added this content on April 8. I reverted you on April 12. I didn't break 1RR because I didn't make two reverts in less than 24 hours! Get lost.--יניב הורון (talk) 14:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyBallioni: Could you please take care of this, which seems to be a clear violation of ARBPIA remedy? regard. --Mhhossein ^talk 14:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hold on. Let me try to explain. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm waiting, Neil.--יניב הורון (talk) 14:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The ARBPIA remedy is stricter than 1RR. If another editor reverts what you've authored then you cannot revert them, period, within 24 hours of their revert. It does not matter if you haven't reverted before, you still can't revert. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:35, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Even if this counts as a first revert, I did it five days ago! I made the "second" revert yesterday. 1RR is for less than 24 hours.--יניב הורון (talk) 14:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're not listening. "If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the revert" has nothing to do with 1RR. Please self-revert and then we can discuss further. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks NeilN. But the user is still resits to accept the violation. Btw, he was blocked for violating the same remedy, although he was warned against it. --Mhhossein ^talk 14:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was blocked for two days for violating ARBPIA 30/500 when I didn't have an extended-confirmed user, NOT for breaking 1RR. And you didn't show me how I broke 1RR. Those two edits where made in more than 24 hours.--יניב הורון (talk) 14:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am preparing the block template. Self-reverting before I'm done might be in your best interest. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:47, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision and for violating WP:ARBPIA on the page 2018 Gaza border protests, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 96 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

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+<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">[[File:Balance icon.svg|40px|left|alt=]]To enforce an [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|arbitration]] decision&nbsp;and for violating [[WP:ARBPIA]]&nbsp;on the page [[2018 Gaza border protests]], you have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''96 hours'''. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. <p>If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] (specifically [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#Arbitration enforcement blocks|this section]]) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><span style="font-size:97%;">{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Please copy my appeal to the &#91;&#91;WP:AE{{!}}arbitration enforcement noticeboard&#93;&#93; or &#91;&#91;WP:AN{{!}}administrators' noticeboard&#93;&#93;. ''Your reason here OR place the reason below this template.'' &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;}}</span>. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the [[Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal#Usage|arbitration enforcement appeals template]] on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me ([[Special:EmailUser/NeilN|by email]]), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.&nbsp;[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 14:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC) <div class="sysop-show"><hr/><p style="line-height: 90%;"><small>'''Reminder to administrators:''' In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standard provision: appeals and modifications|procedure instructing administrators]] regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."</small></p></div></div><!-- Template:uw-aeblock -->