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:{{ping|Risker}} I appreciate the appreciation even if it's a bit odd to me that people keep making such a big deal out of editor reflections. Obviously I care about it and think it important but it's been intriguing to see other's reactions to it as well.
:{{ping|Risker}} I appreciate the appreciation even if it's a bit odd to me that people keep making such a big deal out of editor reflections. Obviously I care about it and think it important but it's been intriguing to see other's reactions to it as well.
:May I ask a question? I don't actually know what the Movement Charter Drafting Committee is. Would you be able to explain what exactly it is? I'm curious now that you've brought it up. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:May I ask a question? I don't actually know what the Movement Charter Drafting Committee is. Would you be able to explain what exactly it is? I'm curious now that you've brought it up. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::The [[m:Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee|Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC)]] is the group that is tasked with developing a charter for the Wikimedia Movement. We've been working on it since late 2022; bits and pieces of draft chapters have been published over the last 2 years. We're now finalizing a complete draft that will be published on Meta at the beginning of April, for full community consultation. After that consultation, we will make some revisions, and the final proposed charter will be published end-May for a ratification vote by the contributing communities, the affiliates and (if both of those succeed) the WMF Board of Trustees. The vote will happen in June; mark your calendar. I've worked on a lot of committees and groups over the years, and this has by far been the most difficult task I have ever undertaken. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 18:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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Newbie Central

Are you a newcomer to Wikipedia? Here are some resources that you may find helpful:

A barnstar for you!

The Real-Life Barnstar
Thank you for participating in Toronto's Wikipedia Day! I am really impressed at your contributions, such as creating fun articles like Ketchup chips! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Newbie Central

A nice workup. When I read the usual welcome templates they seem brisk, complicated, and more liable to chase the standard newbie away than give them a welcome basket. Plain language and a friendly attitude at least gives them a few minutes of good feelings until their edits are reverted without explanation and the sternly worded warnings start to fly onto their talk page. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you like Newbie Central. It's a slightly altered version of links that were useful when I headed a "newbie table" for Toronto's Wikipedia Day. As for the second half of your comment, if you see newbies being reverted without explanation, maybe you should reach out to the editor in question? That's somewhat bitey. It's also not that courteous, even if the editor in question is not a newcomer. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, although I don't usually keep track of who is new and who isn't. Just making the point of what new editors sometimes have to endure, but will keep a keener eye out for specific instances. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EduWiki

As always, Metawiki is a maze, and I cannot find the wikiediting guides I was looking for, sorry. But hope that they will able to answer your questions.

Another interesting idea I got from the WikiEdu Conference in Belgrade is that maybe teaching ppl to edit is a bridge too far: first you need to theach the genaral public to read Wikipedia, e.g. explain what are the little numbers near the text mean, how do sistinguish between a reliable and unrealible source etc. The wider is the funnel at the base, the more active editors we'll get at the end of it. --Victoria (talk) 14:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Victoria. It was very nice chatting with you and Rosiestep yesterday. When I'm feeling a bit better (somewhat sick right now), I'll go and check this out. I really do think the chance to observe a class while it's happening would be insightful and that a reflection of something like that would be useful. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Found it unexpectedly in a different place.--Victoria (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MMiller (WMF) I'm also giving you a courtesy ping because you came up at some point during our conversation :) I heard that you're doing something about encouraging younger editors like me? If so, I'm curious on your ambitions. Feel free to nerd out on the details!
P.S. I really enjoyed talking with you and Selena at WCNA. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Clovermoss -- thank you for getting in touch, and I'm so glad you took the plunge to become an admin! I think probably what you heard about is work I've done in the past with the Growth team, which has been dedicated to "new editor retention" for years (except for the last several months, but that's a different story). You can see in that link that the team has focused their work around the newcomer homepage, suggested edits, and mentorship, which I know you used when you were new.
But I suspect that these kinds of features are only part of the necessary mix when it comes to younger editors. We have to figure out our broader answer to the question of "why should younger editors get involved?", and make sure that we offer something compelling to those people and that they can tell that we offer it.
Something @Victoria mentioned resonated with me -- about how going from being a reader to an editor is actually a really big jump for a lot of people. One of the things we're thinking about is whether we can help readers of Wikipedia take some baby steps toward getting more involved and attached as readers, maybe making them more faithful readers and being closer toward editing. Like, for instance, if readers could easily share an article to social media or make a list of their favorite articles to share with others. You can read some about the thinking here. I wonder what you and Victoria think of that set of ideas? MMiller (WMF) (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TheWikiWizard - February 2024

Humour

  • Does editing Wikipedia burn calories? If it does, does it count as exercise? ;)
  • TWW is back from being long dormant. It was a nice "Hibernation" lol.

Wiki(P/M)edia news

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Women in Red February 2024

Women in Red | February 2024, Volume 10, Issue 2, Numbers 293, 294, 297, 298


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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

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  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

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January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Clovermoss for collecting at least 25 points during the January 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,070 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP you blocked

Hi, Clovermoss. I see you blocked IP 92.40.194.79 for 31 hours a few minutes ago. I'm thinking you may not have noticed their abusive page creations, which I and others have deleted — please take a look at their deleted contributions to see. Anyway, I've upped the block to one week, hope you don't mind. Bishonen | tålk 13:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Bishonen: I don't mind at all. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

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Query

Hello, Clovermoss,

I just saw your invitation to an editor to participate in User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections. I was just curious what you were going to do with all of this information you are gathering. Are you going to summarize it for a Signpost article? Use if for some other report or analysis you are doing? Or is it just to satisfy your personal curiousity? Thanks for any additional insight you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really have any particular plans for it, I think it's worth doing just in itself. I explain the origins of it in my intro at the page, it was basically me trying to bring the spirit of offline meetups to the wiki itself :) I think it helps show that there's always another person behind the screen and that it's something that's just generally good for community morale. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Next Toronto WikiClub meetup

Thanks again for attending the last Toronto WikiClub in January! If you want to help plan the next meeting, please add your name in the designated section of the WikiClub page. Please do not worry if you are not interested in the organizing aspect. We will keep everyone informed once the meetup is scheduled through the WikiClub page. SophieWMCA (talk) 16:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks SophieWMCA. I am interested in the long term but I'm incredibly busy with real life obligations until April/May-ish. Then things will ease up a bit. Is it possible that I might be able to be part of the organizing aspect later? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 07:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! We'll keep you in the loop :) SophieWMCA (talk) 13:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Apps newsletter – First quarter of 2024

Hello, and welcome to the app’s first newsletter in 2024!

It has been a long year; we published four editions of our newsletter, which you can go through all of them. In this edition, we will cover our work for the last quarter of 2023 and the first quarter of 2024!

Android

  • Edit Patrol (also known as Patroller tasks on Android) has been released to Beta testers with rollback rights on Test Wiki and Indonesian Wikipedia. We had a productive meeting with Indonesian users to introduce and discuss the new patrolling tasks feature on the Android app, as we provided a detailed presentation on the feature, and collected valuable feedback from the Indonesian community to enhance the user experience.
    For those interested, a meeting recording is available.
    We conducted outreach to Spanish, and French Wikipedia communities during February 2024.
  • We hosted two synchronous community consultations & recorded a third where we shared the Edit Patrol suggested edit workflow, and showed designs for Saved messages and templates:
  • Places feature is back to the Wikipedia Android app!
    Places is a feature that allows you to discover articles by location.
    The iOS app was able to maintain the feature via use of Apple Maps, but it was necessary for Android audiences that we continue using an open source map.

iOS

  • Suggested Edits on iOS prototype is in the experimental build. Instructions to test the feature can be found on this FAQ page.
    Alt text is text associated with an image that serves the same purpose and conveys the same essential information as the image.
    The app's product manager presented our team's work and prototype (iOS suggested edits) to the GLAM conference audience. All details can be found in the presentation's deck.
  • It is now possible to donate using Apple Pay directly from the app.
  • IOS Native Editor Improvement Development is out!
    You will be able to edit, find and replace, and insert links and images directly from Commons without any performance issues!
    Additionally, it is now possible to edit a full article page and a talk page.

In the current quarter, we aim to engage with editors from LATAM, Spanish-speaking regions, North America, and the Caribbean to test Suggested edits and the new native editor features.

Community meetings

  • We participated in the GLAM conference in November 2023. All the details are mentioned in the iOS section of this edition from the newsletter.
  • On December 1st of 2023, The Wikipedia Android team met with Indonesian users to introduce and discuss the new patrolling tasks feature on the Android app. The team provided a detailed presentation on the feature and collected valuable feedback. A meeting recording is available.
  • We joined the Wiki Editoras Lx editathon on December 16th to gather feedback about an alt-text Suggested Edit task on iOS.
    Attendees were generally positive about the prospect of the feature. Experienced editors thought it could be a good task for on-boarding new editors, but also a more casual way of contributing for new editors.

And you can subscribe to this newsletter.


~~ARamadan-WMF04:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your work is important

Just wanted to let you know that (as a member of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee) I was recently in New York City and attended multiple Wikimedia-related meetings. Your "Editor Reflections" page was mentioned several times in a very positive way. It made me proud to have been a participant in your thought experiment. Risker (talk) 17:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Risker: I appreciate the appreciation even if it's a bit odd to me that people keep making such a big deal out of editor reflections. Obviously I care about it and think it important but it's been intriguing to see other's reactions to it as well.
May I ask a question? I don't actually know what the Movement Charter Drafting Committee is. Would you be able to explain what exactly it is? I'm curious now that you've brought it up. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) is the group that is tasked with developing a charter for the Wikimedia Movement. We've been working on it since late 2022; bits and pieces of draft chapters have been published over the last 2 years. We're now finalizing a complete draft that will be published on Meta at the beginning of April, for full community consultation. After that consultation, we will make some revisions, and the final proposed charter will be published end-May for a ratification vote by the contributing communities, the affiliates and (if both of those succeed) the WMF Board of Trustees. The vote will happen in June; mark your calendar. I've worked on a lot of committees and groups over the years, and this has by far been the most difficult task I have ever undertaken. Risker (talk) 18:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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