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:{{re|Steverci}} Please don't alert people of sanctions when they've already been alerted in the past 12 months I've been alerted 3 times in the 12 months, 2 of which were by people who apparently thought the alert was a warning, hope this also isn't the case for you. ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CuriousGolden&diff=1004535529&oldid=1004230684&diffmode=source 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CuriousGolden&diff=995490268&oldid=995344749&diffmode=source 2]). — [[User:CuriousGolden|<b style="color:#c29d25">Curious</b><b style="color:#c29d25">Golden</b>]] <b style="solid black"> [[User talk:CuriousGolden|(T·]][[Special:Contribs/CuriousGolden|C)]] </b> 09:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Steverci}} Please don't alert people of sanctions when they've already been alerted in the past 12 months I've been alerted 3 times in the 12 months, 2 of which were by people who apparently thought the alert was a warning, hope this also isn't the case for you. ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CuriousGolden&diff=1004535529&oldid=1004230684&diffmode=source 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CuriousGolden&diff=995490268&oldid=995344749&diffmode=source 2]). — [[User:CuriousGolden|<b style="color:#c29d25">Curious</b><b style="color:#c29d25">Golden</b>]] <b style="solid black"> [[User talk:CuriousGolden|(T·]][[Special:Contribs/CuriousGolden|C)]] </b> 09:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
::I checked for alerts beforehand. You reverted both of those. --[[User:Steverci|Steverci]] ([[User talk:Steverci|talk]]) 03:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
::I checked for alerts beforehand. You reverted both of those. --[[User:Steverci|Steverci]] ([[User talk:Steverci|talk]]) 03:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

== Village edits ==

Adding 'had an Azerbaijani population before the exodus of Azerbaijanis from Armenia after the outbreak of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict' and an Azeri variant name to every village in Armenia that ever had Azeris living there is [[WP:UNDUE]] weight and violates [[WP:BALASP]], especially for articles that have practically no other information. In the case of larger articles such as [[Sotk]] that has information back to the Bronze Age, the "exodus" certainly doesn't belong as the only thing in the header and is a clear example of [[WP:ADVOCACY]]. --[[User:Steverci|Steverci]] ([[User talk:Steverci|talk]]) 03:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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Armenian name in Shusha

Hello. My opinion is 'Shushi' shouldn't be in the page of Shusha. Because Shusha is located in Azerbaijan (de-jure | de-facto) and the name 'Shusha' is used in all international sources. Azerbaijanis are in the majority there. And also, in 1988, Azerbaijanis were in the majority. Until 1994, Armenians used the name 'Shusha', until 1994 there was no name 'Shushi'. EljanM (TALK) 09:39, 19 January 2021

That's a very contested issue and it would probably require a WP:RfC. The current consensus is that if a city/village had a recent (prior to First Nagorno-Karabakh war) Armenian/Azerbaijani-majority or a historic large Armenian/Azerbaijani population, their name is also given in the lead. For example, it's done in Martuni/Khojavend article. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:42, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. But we should delete it from the info-box. EljanM (TALK) 09:46, 19 January 2021
You'll have to open a discussion about it in the article talk page and discuss with people who disagree with that. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I know they will not agree with that. But we must add the name of İrəvan to the page of Yerevan. Because Azerbaijanis were in the majority in Irevan. EljanM (TALK) 09:55, 19 January 2021
Azerbaijanis were never the majority in Yerevan, nor were they even a recognized minority, ever. It's not even a controversy, it's just outrageous unsubstantiated claims that have no place on Wikipedia. Furthermore, you don't even claim that it's a recent occupation, so per the consensus the Azeri name has no place in the Yerevan article. As for Shushi, there was no Azeris there for 30 years until a few months ago, so please respect many people's position that it must be included in the article HyeProfile (TC) 18:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Anti-Armenian

Hello, I've seen that you have deleted every word or sentence where Armenia was mentioned, I think this is anti-Armenian behavior and it must stop, you delete everything that is connected to Armenia and replace it with Azerbaijani content, please stop this, put it back how it was. Papakh is a hat which is and was worn all over the caucausus, In the 18 hundred people used to do trading and sold clothing to different cultures which also became other cultural, so please stop removing the connected information to papakh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavtxa777 (talkcontribs) 16:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who removed everything about the hat's Turkic origin or about how it's worn throughout Caucasus (replacing "Papaqs are very important to mountainous peoples’ of the Caucasus" with "Papakha are very common in Armenia as well as other mountainous regions"). Please read WP:NPOV. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm no, I wasn't the one who firstly deleted everything and changed everything to Azerbaijani, Lookup 2018 26 October, it was normal and after that, you changed everything, you deleted every Armenian word, there was no Armenian mentioned anymore, but instead, you put that papakh is Azeri Turkmen hat, no it's not, you talk over yourself by saying papakh is caucasian and then saying it's Azeri Turkish hat, Why do you even delete the Armenian pronouncing of it? We didn't start deleting every Azerbaijani linking, you started and I just put it back how it was, if you want to give more information add more information but don't delete any information, please. comment added by Lavtxa777
I wasn't even around in 2018. And there haven't been any edit on that article on 26 October 2018. I've added back the Armenian translation as it was the only helpful addition in your edits. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:21, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There was a change in 26 October 2018 you can look in the history, You write that I say it's not Azeri Turkish hat, I don't say that, You say it yourself its important in caucausus, it is important also it's important for Armenia, I don't see why to delete every Armenian word or connection, I will change the page with some Armenian connection, I just undid the change from 2018. comment added by Lavtxa777
I don't see anything on 26 October. Perhaps you mean edit on 27 October? You're adding a clear WP:UNDUE by replacing "Papaqs are very important to mountainous peoples’ of the Caucasus" with "Papakha are very common in Armenia as well as other mountainous regions". Don't make any changes until you've reached a WP:CONSENSUS on Talk:Papakha. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, then remove Papakh is very common in Azerbaijan, or add Armenia, Russia and Georgia to this line, because it's also very common there.comment added by Lavtxa777
The sentence you replaced didn't say it was very common in Azerbaijan anyway, but I added "Armenia" to another line that was similar to this. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:32, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I do have a question, in the gallery, it says Turkmen papakh what do you mean by that? can you explain.comment added by Lavtxa777 — Preceding undated comment added 16:35, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not the one who added the image, so I wouldn't know. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AE request

I have reverted your WP:AE request since it was malformatted and improperly filed. You need to carefully follow instructions when filing a request at WP:AE. Do not use a 'new section' button to add a new section there. Instead, use the "Click here to add a new enforcement request" link at the top of the WP:AE page. It will take you to a template for filing an AE request. Fill in all the fields there, including the link to the Arbitartion case under which you are seeking enforcement santions, and a diff(s) of user talk page notification(s) about the relevant discretionary santions at the user talk page of the user against whom you are filing a report. Also, preferably explain what kind of an action you are requesting (topic ban, block, page block, interaction ban, etc). Nsk92 (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 18:46, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial non-functional edits

Please do not make edits such as this one to Lotfi Zadeh, which have absolutely no effect on how the pae in rendered, but clutter up people's watchlists. This article is subject to vandalism and ethnic POV editing, so every edit needs to be checked out, and I -- and I don't know how many other people -- just spent a small amount of time examining your totally unnecessary edit. Please be more courteous to your fellow editors. Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's simple cleaning up. Not sure what's wrong with that. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 07:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on moving pages

Can you please help me in the following moves? Quş yuvası to Nəbilər, Kalbajar and Sarıgüney to Böyürbinə. I encounter with some technical barriers which I cannot fix. Thanks. KHE'O (talk) 21:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kheo17, Hello, you get an error because of the letter Ə, which creates a bug in the system. In those cases, you need to request a move at WP:RM#TR. Just write the reason for why you're trying to move it and why you can't move it and then it should be moved by an admin. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 21:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet! Thanks.--KHE'O (talk) 21:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Mirza Shafi Vazeh

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Culture of Azerbaijan copyedit

Technical requests

Hi. May I ask how many technical requests you have done to remove Azerbaijani alphabet from Azerbaijan article titles? There was an objection to the current one and it went to RM, but was that the first technical request you placed, or had others been actioned without objection? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In ictu oculi, it was the first request relating to anglicizing Azerbaijani city/village names. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 10:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
1. I see from your edit history you already used Technical request before.
2. Do not edit my talk page comments. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In ictu oculi, yes I've used Technical Requests on different topics a lot before. Not sure what your point is. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 11:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What happened here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&diff=prev&oldid=1006049799 - was it refused? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:06, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In ictu oculi, I requested mass moves for them and they were put on hold until the Sharur's RM is closed. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 11:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed moves

I have reverted some of your undiscussed "anglicization" moves. Please do not attempt any other anglicization of Azerbaijan articles by either undiscussed moves or TR. I think we need a broad RfC to discuss your proposed change to status quo on how en.Wikipedia treats Latin-alphabet geo articles. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In ictu oculi, 2 of your moves weren't even "anglicization" moves (Hasanlı, Jabrayil - the village's official name is Hasanlı in Azerbaijani, it's not anglicization & Çıraqlı, Agdam - anglicized district names are the norm, it's like this everywhere). Mass "reverting" moves that have been made months ago counts as WP:VANDALISM, so I'd suggest not doing that. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 11:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I do not care. Please do not make any more your undiscussed "anglicization" moves. Please do not attempt any other anglicization of Azerbaijan articles by either undiscussed moves or TR. Please do not edit or move Talk Page comments. Please look at en.wp and see how we handle geo titles for other Latin alphabets. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In ictu oculi, you probably should care about vandalism since it could get you reported. I haven't moved random village articles, all that was moved was large city/town/place articles which are covered extensively in English-media, this allows me to move it per WP:ENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 11:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please restore the moves that have been reverted. I'm gone for the day but I hope that when I come back (in 24 hours) we'll find the moves reverted back in the status quo position. Where, if you wish, you may post an RM to request a move. You are welcome to en.Wikipedia, but you are new here and there is a history of how we treat article titling which you should familiarize yourself with. Including previous Azerbaijan geos in 2014. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In ictu oculi, could you please specify which moves you want me to revert? — CuriousGolden (T·C) 10:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obsession with Armenia/(ns)

Why do you have an obsession. You literally go to wikis of villages in armenia and add "aZeRbAIjanI majOritY befOre ArMeNIan expoLsioN" you change liberation of shushi to capture of shusha, you remove coat of arms of artsakh and say imaginary coat of arms like wtf what is your obsession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dallavid (talkcontribs) 17:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gave me a good chuckle. Thanks! — CuriousGolden (T·C) 17:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Mirza Shafi Vazeh

The article Mirza Shafi Vazeh you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Mirza Shafi Vazeh for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk) 08:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
congratulations. i just find out that your GA review for Mirza Shafi Vazeh has passed. you really saved the Article from disorderly that was.
Amir Ghandi (talk) 17:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Amir Ghandi: Thank you! You helped big time with your suggestions. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 17:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Fascinating. Really great work, Golden. Jr8825Talk 17:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Just wanted to point out that Category:War crimes committed by country is not meant for every single battle where someone went missing or had to move away. Try to use it only for articles where there are multiple reliable sources classifying it as such. --Steverci (talk) 04:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And please don't remove "per Azerbaijan" from the Battle of Kalbajar article again unless you have a non-Azeri source for it. --Steverci (talk) 04:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Steverci: Please don't alert people of sanctions when they've already been alerted in the past 12 months I've been alerted 3 times in the 12 months, 2 of which were by people who apparently thought the alert was a warning, hope this also isn't the case for you. (1, 2). — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I checked for alerts beforehand. You reverted both of those. --Steverci (talk) 03:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Village edits

Adding 'had an Azerbaijani population before the exodus of Azerbaijanis from Armenia after the outbreak of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict' and an Azeri variant name to every village in Armenia that ever had Azeris living there is WP:UNDUE weight and violates WP:BALASP, especially for articles that have practically no other information. In the case of larger articles such as Sotk that has information back to the Bronze Age, the "exodus" certainly doesn't belong as the only thing in the header and is a clear example of WP:ADVOCACY. --Steverci (talk) 03:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]