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Trees in Boulder County

Heya! Boulder County have been spamming me about trees, thought you might be interested: recommended trees for Boulder. This is the native-plant-sale I was telling you about, but -- seeing as its not free -- I found these sales on cheap trees instead. Hope that helps! -- Gaurav (talk) 03:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maaaan you make me wish I had non-lethal water. o__o It kills everything. Including trees. Buckets. -— Isarra 04:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You might be interested in the CU campus tree tour next Tuesday and Wednesday. I'll probably be going for the Tuesday one sans camera! -- Gaurav (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ooo, if my class that day gets out soon enough, I think I'll join you. But with a camera. You need a camera. I need a camera too, for that matter. -— Isarra 05:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense, I am 100% camera free! :-P. Also leaving town on Wednesday, so it's possible that craziness will intervene. But I'll try to be there! Hope to see you there! -- Gaurav (talk) 02:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you'll find a way to make it. Unless you don't. Although I may not either... well, anyhow, hope the same, and man, are we sure of things here. -— Isarra 03:21, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Nice ideas on cleaning up the edit window :) Kaldari (talk) 08:00, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Those were not my ideas, merely things stolen from other people and shoved in a GO LOOK AT THIS. Because, like, people should look at it. -— Isarra 08:32, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Smile

Talkback

Hello, Isarra. You have new messages at I dream of horses's talk page.
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Thanks for the thanks :)

Glad I could help with charinsert - I see it's more prominent now :) Sorry couldn't get it fully right the first time.

Do poke me if there's more gadget work I could do. Currently helping build out Wikipedia:DRREFORM :) YuviPanda (talk) 18:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I think most of that was my fault, trying to change things... but anyhoo. And thank you; hopefully I'll remember that next time it's needed. Well, okay, around here it's pretty much always needed, but you know... -— Isarra 07:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Isarra. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Syntax differentiation in editing window.
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I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 05:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


A new logo for the travel guide

As you appear to be very good at creating logos I would appreciate your suggestions. I have created a place for proposals here [1]. The new sister project is to start in late Oct, 2012. Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 10:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd thank you for your flattery, but... nevermind that, I have to wonder - since you don't like keeping conversations in one place and I refuse to not keep conversations in one place unless forcibly dragged, does that mean I can say anything I feel like here and not have to worry about you seeing it and being bothered? -— Isarra 08:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page is wonderful

I must say, that was quite an experience. Certainly not what I was expecting, although it's hard to say what I may have been expecting... Excellent <style> indeed.

I apologize for missing your message, and the event. As you probably noticed, I've not been on here for a bit. I'm hoping to make a slow comeback of sorts. I do hope to make it to Wikipedia Loves Libraries.

I'll have to check out Uncyclopedia. Please continue to produce images. Ender and Peter 01:27, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks. And no worries; there will always be more, indeed. WLL is one, and we should also be doing more social meetups at some point (and anything you can add to that to help sort things out would of course be appreciated). And hey, comebacks are good, especially when not involving explosions. And you don't seem terribly explosive. -— Isarra 08:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the stop sign.

I appreciate this, so thanks. I would like to think that one way to improve RfAs is to call out misrepresentations when you see them, but sometimes, you just have to pick your battles. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately calling these things out can often just make them worse, since that invites an argument... much care is required. -— Isarra 04:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse talkback

WikiWomen's Collaborative

WikiWomen Unite!
Hi Isarra! Women around the world who edit and contribute to Wikipedia are coming together to celebrate each other's work, support one another, and engage new women to also join in on the empowering experience of shaping the sum of all the world's knowledge - through the WikiWomen's Collaborative.

As a WikiWoman, we'd love to have you involved! You can do this by:

Feel free to drop by our meta page (under construction) to see how else you can participate!

Can't wait to have you involved! SarahStierch (talk) 02:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pity I'm not fond of blogs, twitter, or facebook, since your aims I can certainly agree with... -— Isarra 17:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

-for saving my user page from vandalism . Lord Roem (talk) 14:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime, love. -— Isarra 14:24, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cuteness images

Please don't accuse me of personal attacks or lack of assumption of good faith -- or alternatively, please detail where I did either of those things, with diffs and verbatim quotes.

Most importantly, please never try to win an argument by pre-emptively accusing the other side of rule violations that never happened. It's simply despicable behavior, unbecoming of an ecyclopedia editor.

As far as your involvement on the talk page goes, please just wisen up. Sorry, that's all I can really say. Your "arguments" are non-existent, all the while you keep ignoring valid arguments to the contrary. It's tiresome. --195.14.220.127 (talk) 17:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can only apologise for the perceived accusation, but this was indeed precisely what I was hoping to avoid from both of you with a polite reminder. Accusing someone of "trying to win an argument by pre-emptively accusing the other side of rule violations that never happened" is precisely not an assumption of good faith, nor is telling someone to wisen up and calling their "arguments" non-existent at all productive. If something is tiresome, then walk away. I will address your concerns with regard to the content on the talkpage in question, but if this is how you choose continue to interact then I will have no further part in it. -— Isarra 18:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You can not ever prevent incivility with a "pre-emptive reminder", as you are most likely well aware. To the contrary, it only ever starts fires and stokes the flames and distracts from the facts and arguments at hand.
Like I said, your arguments are non-existent. That is not a judgment call I'm making or an attack/ABF of any kind, it just happens to be a fact. Anyway, thanks for cutting out the unfounded accusations pre-emptive warnings. --78.35.240.228 (talk) 17:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • It was unacceptable of you to re-add the image and to willfully ignore all of the policy-based arguments when you had none of your own. --213.168.117.135 (talk) 13:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Dismissing others out of hand does not justify any argument. I merely attempted to step in as an uninvolved editor; I do not know if you are intentionally trying to be difficult or not, but this situation is not one I can adequately address, so please do not continue trying to ague with me. -— Isarra 18:28, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Loves Norlin 2012

It is a thing: http://libpress.colorado.edu/?p=1583 -- I definitely need to get a move on on getting this news out there. Could you please remind me if you don't see progress on this by tomorrow? You'll have to ping me on chat, I don't check my Wikipedia user account nearly often enough. Also: any and all ideas for making this event more Wikipedia-friendly (associated editathon?) welcome! Thanks! -- Gaurav (talk) 07:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also the other thing. Wednesdays. 6. Yes. Figure that one out later, though. *collapses* -— Isarra 07:48, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By a vote of 9-1, the Arbitration Committee has passed the following motion:

Remedy 4 ("Malleus Fatuorum topic banned") of Civility Enforcement is vacated, and replaced with the following:

Malleus is topic banned from making edits concerning the RFA process anywhere on the English Wikipedia. As an exception, he may ask questions of the candidates and express his own view on a candidate in a specific RFA (in the support, oppose, or neutral sections), but may not engage in any threaded discussions relating to RFA. An uninvolved admin may remove any comments in violation of this remedy, and may enforce it with blocks if necessary.

For the Arbitration Committee, --Lord Roem (talk) 19:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, adorably cute clerk person. -— Isarra 19:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moni Ram Dewan

Hi there I see that you a movie in the filmography section " Moni Ram Dewan" where is it.......? Dr Bupen Hazarika composed two of the most memorable songs...The original version of Dil Hoom Hoom kore is one of them........Do u really have all the infos abt Bupen Da? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.62.209.100 (talk) 06:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I wouldn't know. If you have any verifiable information on this, however, please feel free too add it. -— Isarra 06:38, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Information

I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat (talk) 10:40, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HEEEEEE. I mean... I will endeavour to answer seriously. O_o -— Isarra 02:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your willingness. I hope the effort accomplishes some good. My goal is to encourage maximum participation so it will represent a wide range of considerations. I am pleased that yours will be included. My76Strat (talk) 07:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, man, I hope it helps. -— Isarra 16:01, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

agin

I still troll around wp when I have one of those moments. You? ~ К3вину (RSVP) (What) 21:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm here! I'm here! I'm still here and I haven't gone and I'm even quasi-paying attention! *bounces for emphasis* I am! I just don't really... well, do anything, is all. -— Isarra 23:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Hey Issara,

It was great to meet you this week -- and thanks so much for helping us get up and running with Flow!

I look forward to working with you soon.

Have a nice trip home.

Take care, Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Whoo! You're awesome, man. -— Isarra 21:12, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*Waves*

Hope your journey back was uneventful or at least positively influential. As to us, the cube area just isn't going to be the same; sadness. You're more than welcome to come back whenever; seems like it would be a heck of a lot of fun to hang with you over a weekend -- lots of fanged hams or somesuch. Still -- on a serious note -- look me up when you have an hour or so and I'll see what I can do to help you set up CentralNotice on uncyclopedia. (Do y'all run a caching service like varnish or squid? We didn't exactly design CN to be friendly to non cached sites; but it can still work; we might just have to disable some stuff.) Mwalker (WMF) (talk) 01:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Journey back was nice. The being back, not so nice, since now I need to catch up on all the stuff I neglected to do last week. Although speaking of the cube area... I appear to have left my laptop's power adaptor somewhere - could you be a dear and see if it's there? Or possibly in the Yongle room? It's a long lenovo brick. Somehow I managed to actually remember to take the DVD I was hurling across the office, but not the power cord that was both quite large and very firmly attached to my laptop. Go figure.
As for CentralNotice, that would be awesome. We do intend to set up varnish at some point, but we're not really there yet... chances are stuff is going to need disabling anyway, though. Eeps and such. Perhaps I should just poke you after that's done?
And thank you. For everything. -— Isarra 23:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe */me imagines large piles of teetering projects that one has to dodge*. Yep -- power brick was 'safely' attached to the wall still. Does HR have your address? I can have them ship it out to you.
Hurm; the two CN things that currently REALLY rely on Varnish being present is the banner impression recorder and the GeoIP lookup. GeoIP can be easily stubbed to just provide the country 'XX' (or we could add server load to you and run the PHP library for it). And the banner impression recorder can also just be hacked out. CN core isn't all that heavy but it will be at least one additional page request per page view -- so you're probably looking at, via aerial extraction, 10~15% additional load. Totally your call to make on if you can deploy it now or need to wait till later.
I'm marginally familiar with the WMF cluster's purge method for Varnish and have experience setting it up in general if what y'all are missing is the domain knowledge there. Can't help you much if what you're missing is the hardware.
Even thanks for the marginal spaghetti? :p 18:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwalker (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Right, so I hear the power cord was sent. Excellent.
Those CN things don't seem terribly important, but the load seems potentially alarming. If I knew more about what that actually meant it might be more or less than potentially, however. We also may or may not have hardware - depending on what you mean by hardware. We do have some random servers, is that what you mean? They kind of suck, though. Domain knowledge, however, is definitely lacking, so anything you could do there would be much appreciated. Perhaps we shall have to get you into a certain channel on IRC so we can coordinate this better...
And yes, the spaghetti too. It was good - food, edible, tasty, not the consistency of slime mold... what more could one want? Molasses? -— Isarra 02:58, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten you just killed.

Look at that server kitty you just killed by making me post to your talk page.

Legoktm (talk) 07:09, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dead kitty? :< ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 07:22, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What, are we huffing kittens now? -— Isarra 08:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Cats knead and destroy clothing and souls. Killiondude (talk) 05:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glowing pancakes

Hi Isarra! I just noticed your edits to User talk:Legoktm. Now that you have outed yourself as being the owner of the account User:Glowing pancakes, it's probably a good idea to declare it on your user page and/or Glowing pancakes' user page, possibly by using {{public user}}, {{User alternative account name}} or something similar. While users are permitted to have unidentified alternative accounts for privacy purposes, this can look suspicious to checkusers if any issues should come up. If you create any other accounts for privacy purposes, you could consider identifying yourself by email to the Arbitration Committee, or to a checkuser who you trust. Before you create any more accounts, I recommend you make a close reading of the sockpuppetry policy, as it may save you significant headaches down the road. Let me know if any of this is unclear, and I'll be happy to clarify. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Is that a template? -— Isarra 08:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, that was really me typing on my keyboard. :P Maybe a sign that I've been on Wikipedia too long? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:36, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly you have been plugged in sufficiently long to have been fully assimilated. -— Isarra 09:40, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OH POWERS ABOVE SO THAT'S WHY MY PANCAKES THIS MORNING WERE GLOWING Icy // 14:20, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's a conspiracy. Also part of the assimilation process. -— Isarra 16:14, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Love the logo you made for "Wiki Project Med Foundation". Many thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:29, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

your revert

Why did you revert my edit removing the Interwiki links? Is there any agreement not using the data provided from Wikidata now? -- 109.48.74.139 (talk) 01:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I must not have gotten the memo. Such in the past has been a common form of vandalism. Sorry about that. -— Isarra 16:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name of event is trade marked "Shell Eco-Marathon"

Hi Isarra, we are the official organizers of the Shell Eco-Marathon. there is no event called just Eco-Marathon. The correct name is Shell Eco-Marathon. It is trademarked and referenced in our main Shell Eco Marathon site. Plz let us know if you have any questions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.57.212.12 (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. -— Isarra 16:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits to the Ricky Ford wikipedia page (english language)

Hi, I see you have undone my edits on the Ricky Ford Wikipedia page. I am actually working as a community manager for the French association Ze Big Band [[2]]. It is a French big band which is playing with Ricky Ford since nearly 10 years. They now released 2 albums together (the second one is coming out in march 2013). So I wanted to add these 2 albums to Ricky's discography. Also, since he is now working with Ze Big Band, I thought it was logical that the Ze Big Band site would be referenced in the Ricky Ford Wikipedia page. My work, after this, is to create a French Ricky Ford Wikipedia page (since he lives and plays in France), and a Ze Big Band Wikipedia page. All of this work is, of course, authorized by Ricky Ford himself.

Do you understand the reason of such change ? I'm, of course, open to any of your observations.

Sincerely yours, Karl-William Sherlaw (community manager for Ze Big Band association)82.67.116.193 (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2013 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.116.193 (talk) 13:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, looks like that one might have been an accident. Looking back now, I don't see any problem with your edits, and have restored them. -— Isarra 21:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is an apple nectarine pie.

Yours to keep, since you're "awesome". Warning: May have been licked by Zombiebaron. wikipedia:~ iTAC$ cd /talk 02:24, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, hello. -— Isarra 01:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some sushi for you!

IRC Goofiness Award
I hear you were craving some sushi. Here ya go.

(Don't eat me!) I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 04:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Me? Eat you? Why would I eat you? I'm not the one that unhinges its jaws and swallows toasters whole; that's my cat over there.
...and sushi! Yay! -— Isarra 05:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

0_0

I just noticed on your contributions and I saw some thing that you reverted a lot of edits by a single user on multiple articles and dogs. ??? iTAC ཏལྐ་ ཝོརྐ་ 02:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What about it? -— Isarra 03:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

March 2013

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. T13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended )

Notification

This is a notification to let you know you are not unbannable and you are now my sworn wiki-enemy for a period of no less than sixty (60) days. During this period, drama will ensue and you should regularly check Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for a discussion thread I've started about you. To my newest enemy, Regards, — Moe Epsilon 22:53, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should know full well to notify anyone about whom you start a thread on ANI, or even anyone remotely related to a thread you start. To not do so is tantamount to scary things, and as such I may rest contented that I need not go out of my way to track your actions because if you do anything entirely obtuse other people will notice and bludgeon you for me. I may not be too pretty to ban in practice, but I am too lazy to do anything particularly bannable. Good day, my dear enemy.
PS - I wasn't kidding about starting a distracting VPT thread if needed. I have many very distracting, amazingly polarising topics I could potentially propose if it came to it. Consider this a threat. -— Isarra 23:00, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I know you do, and I do consider this a threat, of which I will remain butthurt for the rest of the evening about. Back to the subject at hand, my bludgeoning will not be taken lightly, as I have my own cabal of followers who will quickly swoop in and take any action upon me to ArbCom. There I will coerce you into a tizzy, and hopefully you will do something which I can properly propose a full site ban. Too pretty to ban, indeed! Regards, — Moe Epsilon 23:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, are you retorting with threats? I should wonder that the civility policy does not cover this explicitly, but you should know if it continues it may very well constitute hounding - and in such case it may prove you who is banned, not I.
Incidentally my cabal is bigger. -— Isarra 23:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your cabal is only bigger because I am not as pretty, according to you of course! Civility be damned, if it takes hounding to set an editor straight, then so be it. You are officially being watch by me and many others, and you will be mercilessly hounded for anything as small as a grammatical error. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 23:45, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we should see what Wikipediocracy has to say about you. -— Isarra 23:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, no, we don't have to go there for their opinion. Our fellow editors here could chime in, but I feel like I'd get more positive reception at either forum. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 23:57, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please, you are trying to detract from the matter at hand. Your baseless threats and accusations cannot so easily be swept aside, and indeed have been entirely inappropriate. Attempt to boomerang me all you like, but this has gotten out of hand and I will not sit idly by while you continue to so harass me. -— Isarra 00:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The issue of your canvassing on IRC will not be taken lightly, and my reaction is fully justified for it. It was disgusting violation, really. I'll spare everyone the details and take my leave, for now. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 00:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for vandalism. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Legoktm (talk) 08:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This was completely inappropriate and I commend Zombiebaron for lifting a clearly mistaken ban. As for you, legoktm, were I not so tired it would be straight to ANI with you, as this sort of trigger-happy brainlessness is exactly what is wrong with Wikipedia, folks jumping into things without getting the whole story just to say they did something whoohoo! Don't let me ever catch you doing that again. -— Isarra 18:27, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I commend Legoktm for his perfectly valid block after I went to him by the mailing list and feed him the information. He was uninvolved, there was nothing wrong with that block! Zombiebaron should be warned for wheel-warring and should probably resign his bit. As for you, tread carefully, Isarra. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 18:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Humble pie. Mmmmmmmm pie.
Calling an established user a 'vandalism-only account' is never a valid block reason - and if you have civility concerns, that's frankly your problem. Civility blocks are entirely unsupported by the community as a whole, so grow a thicker skin, please, or alternately bring up the specific issue(s) with me directly - I promise to at least read it before dismissing you entirely. -— Isarra 18:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are you insinuating something? -— Isarra 00:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Notanotification
this Notfiction thread officially cheered me out of a grumble with an emotional tripletake, but left me in a good mood and well-supplied with nectarine. So I will not report the flagrantly camouflaged policy violations therembedded. Sj (talk) 04:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That pie will be taken to arbcom for its gross inability to function with the community. I hope you can camouflage your own involvement with it or this could prove to be a very unfortunate situation for you as well, unrelated policy violations or no. -— Isarra 21:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

your closing at WT:NOT#WP:NOTNEWS

Hi,

Your closing has missed the point that both the proponents and the opponents of deprecating the redirect were opposed to this motion.  The motion proposed to phase out WP:NOTNEWS with WP:NOT#NEWS as an alternative, which mis-represents the need as a style concern.  So proponents of deprecation had reason to oppose this motion.  On the other hand, opponents of deprecation seemed motivated, and we now know that these voices exist and have good reasons.  Perhaps I should have challenged this RfC as a WP:POINT from the start, but I was content at the time to defeat the motion.  And since I am not an admin, how should I have gone about making such a challenge?  I don't know what happens next, but at a minimum I request that your closing reflect the full nature of the consensus at this RfC, which included a silent opposition.  Thanks, Unscintillating (talk) 09:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Isarra's closing statement seemed to state the consensus, i.e. that the shortcut should not be deprecated, without guessing at the motives behind each comment. However, even if you take that into account, you have at most one other editor who opposed (Binksternet, and I'm not sure that's what they're saying) who may agree that the perceived misuse is grounds for deprecation, so consensus is still clearly in favour of the shortcut. There may be a "silent opposition", but if they don't speak up, trying to represent them in the closing statement amounts to a supervote. Given the above, I think her close was appropriate. wctaiwan (talk) 09:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But in the closing, Isarra said nothing at all about the motion that was being discussed.  I was a part of the viewpoint that prevailed.  What should I do in the future so that my viewpoint is not ignored by the closer?  I'm ok with your objection to the words "silent opposition", but the WP:POINT issue remains unaddressed.  Unscintillating (talk) 03:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What wctaiwan said. While the proposal itself probably could have been worded better and whatnot, I closed it based on what was there, which is really all anyone can do. You could probably start a more specific discussion or some such regarding your own concerns, but I don't expect others would be terribly pleased so soon after this one, as ideally such issues should have been brought up during it. -— Isarra 16:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, your closing has already noted that the discussion was missing the proponents for deprecation.  I'm not interested in changing anything right now or starting any new discussions.  My concern is that if and when this topic comes back to the forefront, your closing will not reflect what actually happened.  Thanks, Unscintillating (talk) 03:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Did my closing in some way not reflect what happened this time? -— Isarra 04:34, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The answer IMO is "yes", but I don't understand why you are asking.  Maybe you missed part of my last response, which had two sections.  Regards, Unscintillating (talk) 11:59, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I'm not sure what you're saying here. You seem to be suggesting that something pointy is going on (and if so, what's the point? What's the disruption?), and that you were ignored? Of the overall outcome of the straw poll, what wasn't reflected in my close? I didn't go into specifics, it's true, but many different points were brought up, most fairly relevant, and discussion all of them in a close should not be necessary. -— Isarra 18:10, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was one of eleven oppose !votes in the straw poll, and your close says nothing about the result of the straw poll<full stop> It has become more obvious to me that we have different knowledge sets regarding WP:POINT.  The paragraph at WP:POINTy helps explain the issue, saying, "..."POINTy" behavior is making edits...for the...purpose of drawing opposition."  But maybe an example would help, I found this exampleUnscintillating (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. -— Isarra 00:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because you need it

By the way. Is that whale on your userpage that "Woman on this page, which is not you neither persona or an alter ego or an avatar or ... "? :D Petrb (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again.
The woman was replaced. April is being a horrible month so I put the shark there instead, but forgot to update the blurb. -— Isarra 01:11, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Something.

Hi, Isarra!

Are you interested in making a Spanish version of File:Wikimedia us.svg? The name in Spanish is "Coalición Estadounidense de Wikimedia".

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 22:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. Sure we can't put EEUU on it instead of Estadounidense, though? -— Isarra 00:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Although traditionally the 'Wikimedia' part comes first regardless of language... -— Isarra 00:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you can make a version that says EEUU :) Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 02:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I Barn Star you, in honor of wikideletions ~ К3вину (RSVP) (What) 03:47, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]