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:::::{{u|TParis}}, I've proven it. It took me all night to get there, but [[User_talk:SmokeyJoe#Drafts|here it is]]. The next voter ought to quote it. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung#top|talk]]) 01:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{u|TParis}}, I've proven it. It took me all night to get there, but [[User_talk:SmokeyJoe#Drafts|here it is]]. The next voter ought to quote it. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung#top|talk]]) 01:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::It seems to be a trend, as you pointed out, that "passionate" editors try to shoehorn changes to policy by fiat in quiet little corners of Wikipedia.--v/r - [[User:TParis|T]][[User_talk:TParis|P]] 01:27, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::It seems to be a trend, as you pointed out, that "passionate" editors try to shoehorn changes to policy by fiat in quiet little corners of Wikipedia.--v/r - [[User:TParis|T]][[User_talk:TParis|P]] 01:27, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

== New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023 ==

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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to {{noping|WaddlesJP13}} who led with 2084 points. See [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/October 2022|this page]] for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
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'''Minimum deletion time''': The previous [[WP:NPP]] guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and [[WP:BLAR]]). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the [[Special:NewPagesFeed|feed]] are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

'''New draftify script''': In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly [[Help:Unreviewed new page|explanation page]]. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your [[Special:MyPage/common.js|common.js]] or vector.js file from <code>User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js</code> to <code>User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js</code>'''

'''Redirects''': Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirects|this guide]], [[Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Redirect_checklist|this checklist]], and spend some time at [[WP:RFD]].

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Thanks for the advise

@Kudpung I removed my NPP request. Thanks alot for the chat, it helped me understand what role I want to play in improving this place. TC FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

Hello, Kudpung! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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Yo Ho Ho

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ACE2022 Analysis

A basic analysis with predictions, comments, graphical representations of the voting pattern, and page views of the voter guides is available at Kudpung/ACE2022. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:07, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}} [reply]

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CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:07, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, Kudpung!

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From my family to yours: Merry Christmas! TheSandDoctor Talk 18:12, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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We sang Charpentier's delightful Messe de minuit pour Noël today, which was on DYK yesterday, - a first for me, pictured, - thank you for the good wishes, and enjoy the season! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Today, pictured, the soprano of our choral concert of the year. More in the context: User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Talia Or, in case of interest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The 12 Days of Wikipedia
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6 Clerks Clerking
5 Check Users Checking
4 Oversighters Hiding
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J3Mrs

Do you know anything about User:J3Mrs? This editor (who I didn't really get on with) left in June 2018, though made 2 edits after. I know you have interested with them before though a long time ago. I sent them a message on Messenger on 3 June saying "J3Mrs are you coming back to Wikipedia?", a few days later they blocked me and I later blocked them back. My experience of her is while she's a good content creator she is not particularly good at handling disputes/dealing with conflicts even though she is very good at criticizing/annoying others, even those who are less experienced than she is yet when it comes back at her she can't take it. Her Facebook posts that I could see before the block show her calling people liars. I wandered if she may be happy to here from me but obviously not. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:13, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crouch, Swale J3Mrs is listed at Wikipedia:Missing_Wikipedians#J. They very abruptly stopped editing after a normal edit 4 years ago and gave no clues why they did. I see no point in pursuing it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(TPS) - J3Mrs was a close associate of Eric Corbett, and both edited extensively on Manchester topics which is where I encountered them. I think her departure was very likely linked to his and, like Kudpung, I am very doubtful they have plans to return. Hope you are keeping well, Kudpung. KJP1 (talk) 06:33, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who listed her on missing Wikipedians. She got many articles to GA/FA status in Greater Manchester/West Yorkshire. Eric Corbett wasn't blocked until September 2019 though so I'm not sure what EC would have had to do with it. It it a bit worrying that aside from 1 minor mainspace edit her only edit (nearly a year and a half after their last edit) was to !vote strong oppose at a RFA. How did she know that RFA was on? She doesn't appear to have even edited EvergreenFir's talk page (which her preferences appear to be to add pages she edits to her watchlist). Perhaps she still tracks Wikipedia, I wouldn't be surprised if she knows this discussion is going on. While she did make limited attempts to engage with me far more time was spent annoying me/obsessing over my work yet isn't good at dealing with people who disagree with her, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive254#User:J3Mrs reported by User:Pennine rambler (Result: Resolved). I guess there is no point in trying to get her back if she's just going to be like that. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are many reasons why someone abruptly stops editing. One user did that and suddenly turned up 3 years later as if they had never been absent. Do't speculaste, just hope they are well and move on. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Kudpung!

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Happy New Year!
Hi Kudpung, Looking backwards, looking forwards, best wishes for the New Year. Thank you for all you do and have done for Wikipedia (Regardless of UTC, it is still January 1 where I'm posting!) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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MB

Could I politely ask you to just dial things back a bit at the RfA? If people want to oppose it, and do so reasonably (and AFAIK all have done so) then just let them have their say. I know I'm guilty of this myself in the past, but I do resolve to do better next time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:18, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ritchie333, Thank you for your detailed support vote. Indeed I have just spent the best part of 3 hours totally refuting every one of that ridiculous laundry list of AfD and PROD. I won't have to post it now, but rest assured I'll do whatever I have to in order to combat any more totally disingenuous voting and if you were to take a closer look you'll understand that many of the opposes are for abuse of policies that do not and never did exist. I'm surprised that so many admins allow some filth to remain on that page - it just goes to prove that for some people it's definitely the one playground where they can be as offensive as as possible with impunity. I used to take RfA as a system very seriously, and you know yourself that I've nominated several users who have gone on to do excellent work as admins, but at the end of the day the process is a laughable circus second only to the laughable antics of Arfbcom. RexxS has gone completely, I should have done the same. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Chris, I agree with every word of that, and I know the toll it takes on a nominator to see your candidate put through the wringer, especially when you "know" how good they are and it feels like people are poking holes out of spite. But I'll tell you what I wish someone had told my younger self: bludgeoning the process (even a laughable circus of a process) won't help your candidate. Happy new year, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Harry. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm stepping out too. It's crazy how many people badger WP:BEFORE being required but can't point to any consensus. Tired of the Who's line is it anyway approach to RrA. Everything is made up and the policies don't matter.--v/r - TP 00:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
TParis, I've proven it. It took me all night to get there, but here it is. The next voter ought to quote it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be a trend, as you pointed out, that "passionate" editors try to shoehorn changes to policy by fiat in quiet little corners of Wikipedia.--v/r - TP 01:27, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]